Nursing as a Career!
Hello all MFP future, present and past nurses! I would like to pick your brains and experience today!
Cliffs Notes Version: If you could tell incoming nurses one positive and one negative about coming into the field or anything about it, what would you say?
I am considering a career in nursing, and have read sooo many of the articles on the net about it. I actually got my ex/so into the field from psychology because nursing appealed to him more - the opportunity to work at an office mon-fri or 3 twelve hour shifts, the possibility of working in many different areas, helping others, a challenge, potential of "travel nursing" later on (big incentive for him!)
But I wanted to ask real people. How is the pay compared to what is presented to entering students? Do you feel respected? Do you feel its a good amount of challenge, not a dangerous ratio of patients to one nurse? Do you feel you have a good work life balance for family and hobbies? Do you have fun at work? Is it harder or easier to stay fit as a nurse for you (I'm sure this depends on one's determination, but it might present unique challenges and or advantages).
I have heard there is a high burn out rate.... how can this be avoided?
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Cliffs Notes Version: If you could tell incoming nurses one positive and one negative about coming into the field or anything about it, what would you say?
I am considering a career in nursing, and have read sooo many of the articles on the net about it. I actually got my ex/so into the field from psychology because nursing appealed to him more - the opportunity to work at an office mon-fri or 3 twelve hour shifts, the possibility of working in many different areas, helping others, a challenge, potential of "travel nursing" later on (big incentive for him!)
But I wanted to ask real people. How is the pay compared to what is presented to entering students? Do you feel respected? Do you feel its a good amount of challenge, not a dangerous ratio of patients to one nurse? Do you feel you have a good work life balance for family and hobbies? Do you have fun at work? Is it harder or easier to stay fit as a nurse for you (I'm sure this depends on one's determination, but it might present unique challenges and or advantages).
I have heard there is a high burn out rate.... how can this be avoided?
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Just because you go to nursing school doesnt mean you can get a job as a nurse. There are soooo many people going to school for nursing, its too hard to get a job as one now.0
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Just because you go to nursing school doesnt mean you can get a job as a nurse. There are soooo many people going to school for nursing, its too hard to get a job as one now.
Is it really that bad? I thought they were short on nurses?? What if you're willing to move across the country?0 -
Hiya! I've been a nurse for about 3.5 years, so I'll throw some of my input in here and see if it's any help.
Firstly, one positive and one negative: a positive, certainly, is knowing, with certainty, that you are directly helping people. Your patients are, quite often, encountering you during some of the most trying and difficult days of their lives, and you are the person who is there to help them through that. Sometimes that's incredibly rewarding, and sometimes it's its own challenge (people who are hurting and afraid are not necessarily at their best, so nurses have to be prepared to be patient and understanding of that), but it's definitely a job that feels meaningful, if that makes any sense. Conversely, the negative would be the powerlessness, I guess. Ultimately, you are only able to do so much for your patients. Sometimes, even if you and the doctors and the respiratory therapists and everyone else are doing absolutely everything you can, things aren't going to turn out how you want them. That's a really scary feeling sometimes, and it can be difficult to come to terms with.
Ok, next questions: pay--I feel like I'm payed a decent living wage. I'm not rich by any means, but I'm not destitute either. I will say, with certainty, that nursing isn't a career you choose for the money, because it's not worth it, from that perspective. There are less disgusting and less emotionally draining careers that pay better. That said, I feel that I'm compensated fairly, most of the time. I feel like I answered that question pretty ambiguously. :laugh:
I do sometimes feel that the ratio is dangerous. In fact, I recently (within the past year) went from working acute care ("the floor") with up to 5 patients at a time, to working in the ICU, with one or two patients at a time, and the difference is amazing. Even though my patients are way more time consuming and sicker, I cannot stand feeling like I don't have time to know what's going on with my patients thoroughly, and I genuinely feel that, with 5 patients, there are times when you're hoping like h*ll that at least 2 of those patients can essentially function on auto pilot, because the rest of the patients are requiring so much attention. It's terrifying to me, though some people love working the floor and say that ICU is terrifying. Guess it depends on the individual nurse.
In terms of balancing life--this can be a major struggle, especially because I work nights. If you work several 12 hour night shifts in a row, it's difficult to not feel isolated from family and friends. My advice here is to set boundaries. Hospitals are notoriously short-staffed, and they will work you to death if you let them. This actually segues into the burnout thing: I know nurses who work 5 12-hour night shifts a week. I don't think that's safe, from a patient-care perspective, or a mental-health perspective, and I definitely think it's a recipe for burnout. Again, though, individual nurses are different, so maybe that's just me. I like to work 3 12 hour shifts a week, with an occasional extra shift thrown in. I feel that I need personal time to purse my other interests, otherwise I'm not going to be a balanced person, and that's no good.
In terms of fitness, the 12 hour shifts are challenging, for sure. This is something I'm still learning to make work, so I'll have to get back to you on that, lol.
Whew, did I run off at the mouth there? Sorry you asked?:yawn:0 -
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one positive is helping people get better :-)
one negative is thats its very unglamourous
i agree nursing isnt a job for the money but I love it and cant really ever see myself doing anything else x0 -
There are pretty much always nursing jobs available at the hospital where I work. I think maybe it's difficult to get jobs in some of the more coveted areas (being a nurse who works directly for a physician, for instance), but I don't know anyone from my graduating class who was unable to find employment in nursing.. Maybe the overabundance of nurses is a regional problem that's not affecting my little corner of the world, though?0
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Thank you all for your input! I certainly like as much as I can get.
I really am wondering though... if one takes out 40K in loans is that worth it financially, and please know that I mean it when I say its not FOR the pay, but it matters. Most sites say you start out around 50k average across the country but I've heard of some nurses making 80k. That's a range that I would be happy with, because its not about having as much $ possible, but having a comfortable lifestyle free of financial worries (of course if one is responsible and isn't trying to live an unrealistic lifestyle)0 -
Hi. I've been a Cardiovascular nurse for > 20 years. I've worked both in the critical CVU unit at the hospital and eventually as a charge nurse in Florida....and also for private Cardiologist offices. I currently have worked for the same cardiologist for almost 12 years. There is a BIG differece between the 2. Short staffing at hospitals just happens...no matter the planning. Nurses call in, there is unpredictable patient volumes, etc. You will have a lesser patient volume if you specialize in either ICU or CVU....but you will have much sicker patient's...and more deaths....so you need to have a good perspective on the death and dying process and that you can't save them all...no matter what you do. You don't develop strong relationships with patient's in those area's because as soon as they are better enough, they are transferred to the medical floor....but you are responsible for SAVING THEIR LIVES! The Dr's are only there for 15 minutes.....you are there for the other 11 hrs and 45 minutes to ensure they remain stable.
Working for a Cardiologist office is completely different. You do develop very strong relationships with your patient's and feel their loss on a more personal level (I've been to lost of funerals)....but you gain so much joy in directly helping people. I do feel appreciated by my Dr. He has told me directly that his practice has doubled since I have been there and that he told another one of his colleagues who asked him if he had been in any law suits....and he told him no...and that it was due to having me as a nurse and my clinical judgement.
Compensation I think is fair. I make over twice now that I did when I started out as a new nurse 20 years ago. The practice I work for only hires nurses with a minimum of 5 years cardiac experience....and they compensate accordingly.
Oh...by the way...when I was a charge nurse....we hired "travel" nurses for Florida ALL THE TIME. A large percentage of my staff were "travel nurses" who had sign on bonuses....then renewal sign-on bonuses....and a housing allowance. We actually had "permanent travel nurses" who would just keep renewing as it paid for their house payment and we always needed them....so they had been at the same hospital for years...making more than my staff nurses hourly and getting their house paid for along with their bonuses....just a thought:) Good luck to you.0 -
I came out of nursing school 11 years ago, I'm working from home now, so I have no idea how good or bad the need is right now. But you'll have good skills no matter what, that you can take anywhere. Are you willing to travel? As far as the investment in school, i think its worth it. Your monthly payments is just going to be another bill and you'll probably have that bill no matter what you get your degree in!
I know its hard out there! Try and do what you love!!! Do you think you'll love nursing?0 -
I think the 80 K nurses are working out East or in California where the cost of living is so much higher. I would not expect that as a new nurse. You will make more if you go in to CVU or ICU or if you work the "night shift" due to the shift differential pay....just a thought!
40 K is reasonable to get your degree in today's college market....and your monthly payments should be reasonable over long-term.0 -
well i live in the uk and we earn £21000 - £27500 a year - we start on the baseline and work our way through the pay scale .
we are also fortunate to have a bursary here in scotland which pays you about £580 a month for doing your nursing degree - again its deffo not the money that we do it for lol x0 -
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Thank you, thank you.
I think I would enjoy nursing and lots of people have told me that they think I would be good at it. There are a few things I need to work on though. I think that I would like to work in an environment where I have *time* for the patient because I would want to help them as thoroughly as possible.
I do live on the east coast and that is where I hear about the higher salaries (and higher cost of living).
Right now I am torn between nursing, counseling (addiction, family, or weight loss), and nutrition. I wish I could tie them all together and do everything! But I haven't heard of nutrition and nursing coming together well as a career. I can see nutrition and counseling, I don't know.0
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