My Stupid Pal
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This is the only fitness related website where...
People actually think the risk of being obese is less than the risks of bariatric surgery and discourage it
People think tanning is safe and encourage it
I am all for personal choice, but people come here seeking information and advice and I fear they will get a bad batch of both
You don't come to forums for medical advice. If you did, that's your problem. The forums are full of opinions that you need to be smart enough to sort through. I've never seen a single forum post that didn't get a little from both sides. But that being said, I don't think its the only place you can go that would discourage surgery if it can be done without it. Some people never make it out of the hospital due to infections, etc. People here are encouraging others to lose weight, but do it the safe way. Whats 'stupid' about that?
I never said surgery is without risks or easy. However, if someone who needs to lose a substantial amount of weight or has comorbid factors is considering it than the risks of the surgery are far fewer than the risks of doing nothing and perhaps even the risks of trying to go it alone through exercise. Severely obese people or people with comorbidities risk not only cardiac complications from unsupervised exercise but also orthopedic injury.
I want people to know that surgery is a safe and viable option for those who are past the point of "doing it naturally". Just because a handful or even small percentage of people lose hundreds of pounds naturally does not mean there is any shame in considering surgery.
As for tanning, that should even be a discussion imo.
Ok, I get your point and I actual agree that it comes a point where it may be the last resort. And I honestly wouldn't judge someone who had surgery at any point. That wasn't what I was saying. I just have known several people who have considered it thinking they could not do it without it, but they did... So I'm thinking that maybe people here don't encourage it because they are hoping others can do it without surgery. It can be scary is all I am saying. My best friend and sister are both nurses. I hear a lot of horror stories.0 -
FYI...since I have suddenly been demonized for voicing an opinion let me add some facts.
The mortality associated with bariatric surgery in several peer reviewed medical journals (not Google or the news) approaches 1 percent for all risk groups. This is extremely low.
People disagree with you...that's not being demonized.
Not being overly sensitive is also needed for being on such "stupid" websites like myfitnesspal..or any website.0 -
I agree with what you are saying but weight loss surgery isn't for everyone. I have over 100 pounds to lose and I considered weight loss surgery. Even though Im a candidate for it in the long run, I think it would be much more rewarding to work hard to lose the weight. I agree that you should have said "some people" because not everyone on here thinks like that. Also, I don't think you are looking for attention rather than a confirmation, or maybe even a debate about the topic. If this guy is looking for attention, consider the other message boards about "rate this person, do you find the person above you attractive" etc. There are also begging for attention.This is the only fitness related website where...
People actually think the risk of being obese is less than the risks of bariatric surgery and discourage it
People think tanning is safe and encourage it
I am all for personal choice, but people come here seeking information and advice and I fear they will get a bad batch of both0 -
FYI...since I have suddenly been demonized for voicing an opinion let me add some facts.
The mortality associated with bariatric surgery in several peer reviewed medical journals (not Google or the news) approaches 1 percent for all risk groups. This is extremely low.
People disagree with you...that's not being demonized.
Not being overly sensitive is also needed for being on such "stupid" websites like myfitnesspal..or any website.
Point taken...but disagreeing means someone presents a counter argument not personal attacks. I will endeavor to post and not defend myself in the future.0 -
So, you've had weight-loss surgery, don't tan, and are defensive.
Welcome!!!
It's a big world out there, and it takes all kinds of people to make it go 'round. Stop judging, do what works for you, and get ON with it.0 -
FYI...since I have suddenly been demonized for voicing an opinion let me add some facts.
The mortality associated with bariatric surgery in several peer reviewed medical journals (not Google or the news) approaches 1 percent for all risk groups. This is extremely low.
People disagree with you...that's not being demonized.
Not being overly sensitive is also needed for being on such "stupid" websites like myfitnesspal..or any website.
Point taken...but disagreeing means someone presents a counter argument not personal attacks. I will endeavor to post and not defend myself in the future.
Yes, true. Personal attacks aren't needed but to be honest, I didn't read all the comments on the thread! That's where just ignoring people comes in handy lol0 -
I agree with what you are saying but weight loss surgery isn't for everyone. I have over 100 pounds to lose and I considered weight loss surgery. Even though Im a candidate for it in the long run, I think it would be much more rewarding to work hard to lose the weight. I agree that you should have said "some people" because not everyone on here thinks like that. Also, I don't think you are looking for attention rather than a confirmation, or maybe even a debate about the topic. If this guy is looking for attention, consider the other message boards about "rate this person, do you find the person above you attractive" etc. There are also begging for attention.This is the only fitness related website where...
People actually think the risk of being obese is less than the risks of bariatric surgery and discourage it
People think tanning is safe and encourage it
I am all for personal choice, but people come here seeking information and advice and I fear they will get a bad batch of both
I agree on the generalization. I thought it was obvious I was not meaning every single person besides myself. I also agree that is someone can lose weight without surgery that it is a MUCH better option. However, I see alot of misinformation handed out and for many morbidly obese people surgery is life saving.0 -
so leave. it's free and no one will chase you.
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Research is research, its a person's choice to choose to take word of mouth (forums) or find other sources of information. Making a thread called "my stupid pal" only opens up the OP to flames and his ability to portray 'wisdom' to the community, on a hostial front.0
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FYI...since I have suddenly been demonized for voicing an opinion let me add some facts.
The mortality associated with bariatric surgery in several peer reviewed medical journals (not Google or the news) approaches 1 percent for all risk groups. This is extremely low.
Your getting banged on because of your generalization. People on here are generally nice. Take it like a man.0 -
Ah.....so are you defensive because you've had surgery, or because you're the surgeon and you're mad that sales are down?0
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I just love my natural tan0
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I wish I had a better tan, should I use baby oil in the sun to get darker!?0
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I haven't been active here very long, but do posts like this end up being productive??
No. Never. They stop being even slightly entertaining when the OP goes on the defense of some ridiculous point.0 -
I wish I had a better tan, should I use baby oil in the sun to get darker!?
Or coconut oil!0 -
ooh I can take it but I should have added that this site is full of moronic bullies as well.0
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This is the only fitness related website where...
People actually think the risk of being obese is less than the risks of bariatric surgery and discourage it
People think tanning is safe and encourage it
I am all for personal choice, but people come here seeking information and advice and I fear they will get a bad batch of both
Don't you have bigger fish to fry?? Go to sparkpeople.com and get off of mfp, we won't be sad to see you go0 -
I wish I had a better tan, should I use baby oil in the sun to get darker!?
Or coconut oil!
Bacon Fat, can be a bit messy but when it starts to smell awesome you should go in the shade.
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ooh I can take it but I should have added that this site is full of moronic bullies as well.
Now you've done it. Reported.0 -
I wish I had a better tan, should I use baby oil in the sun to get darker!?
Or coconut oil!
Bacon Fat, can be a bit messy but when it starts to smell awesome you should go in the shade.
I ❤ Bacon!0 -
ooh I can take it but I should have added that this site is full of moronic bullies as well.
Now you've done it. Reported.
I agree with him.....guess you better report me too lol0 -
This is the only site that everyone thinks it is safe to tan and not have surgery including the OP cause he is a member.0
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That's cute. This is your first forum experience.
Well, welcome. Everyone has their own opinion and are able to voice it. So, it doesn't matter what YOU think. It's very empowering.0 -
ooh I can take it but I should have added that this site is full of moronic bullies as well.
Now you've done it. Reported.
Typical bully response...call him out and he goes crying to the principle.0 -
ooh I can take it but I should have added that this site is full of moronic bullies as well.
Every site has people that you won't agree with, every site has people who think they know it all, and every site has bullies. It's just apart of the circle of the internet life. People online will say things they'd never say to your face because they aren't scared to be punched in the face. However I am probably nicer online then I am offline because I have a little moment to think before it falls out of my mouth. I have no filter for the most part, I have a lot of "I should have probably thought better on that before I said it" moments.0 -
Or just moronic. . .0
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ooh I can take it but I should have added that this site is full of moronic bullies as well.
Now you've done it. Reported.
Typical bully response...call him out and he goes crying to the principle.
I wonder if he was joking due to the jovial nature of this thread.0 -
ooh I can take it but I should have added that this site is full of moronic bullies as well.
Now you've done it. Reported.
Typical bully response...call him out and he goes crying to the principle.
Aside from generalizing your motive was perhaps compassionate. Now you are on a campaign to insult people and prove some sort of point. Your true colours are starting to show. How about just chalk it up as a learning experience and stop fueling the fire, cause you are starting to look just like the ones you complained about...just saying. 0 -
Yes jovial is exactly the adjective I was thinking0
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ooh I can take it but I should have added that this site is full of moronic bullies as well.
Now you've done it. Reported.
Typical bully response...call him out and he goes crying to the principle.
I was making a reference that you don't understand. I don't care enough about you or your stupid topic to do anything but laugh at it. But coconut oil? That is entertainment.0
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