Weak back and core. Exercises to strengthen please.
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I need some advice. I think I have a weak core and lower back. If I try core exercises they hurt my lower back, even when I focus on pulling my tummy muscles in really hard.
Please could I have some suggestions of good, maybe beginner, moves I can practice to strengthen both core and lower back.
At the moment, on the advice of a trainer at the gym, I am trying 'oyster' leg moves and bridges, the trainer also thinks my glutes may also be weak, hence the oyster moves. I can hold planks for about 20 secs from my elbows, they don't hurt my back, everything else just trembles :-) I also try slow toe-taps but can't manage more than 4 each side.
So far I have tried tiny crunch moves and I have tried lying on my back with my knees in the air, shins at right angles to the floor and slowly lowering both legs to the right, back to centre, then left. My back hurts before my tummy muscles do and I can only manage a few. I have also tried small crunches on an exercise ball. I cannot do one full sit up! All of these give me some pain in my lower back.
Help! :-)
Please could I have some suggestions of good, maybe beginner, moves I can practice to strengthen both core and lower back.
At the moment, on the advice of a trainer at the gym, I am trying 'oyster' leg moves and bridges, the trainer also thinks my glutes may also be weak, hence the oyster moves. I can hold planks for about 20 secs from my elbows, they don't hurt my back, everything else just trembles :-) I also try slow toe-taps but can't manage more than 4 each side.
So far I have tried tiny crunch moves and I have tried lying on my back with my knees in the air, shins at right angles to the floor and slowly lowering both legs to the right, back to centre, then left. My back hurts before my tummy muscles do and I can only manage a few. I have also tried small crunches on an exercise ball. I cannot do one full sit up! All of these give me some pain in my lower back.
Help! :-)
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I had a physio make me order a 'wobble cushion' which you can get from Amazon.....the standing on the wobblyness makes your core work for balance and could be a good start.....it was recommended to me to help strengthen my core for lower back problems....0
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Try sitting crunches. Sit in a dining chair and hold on to the seat then bring your knees in towards the body. Should help you build up to floor ones without straining your back.0
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Yoga, yoga, yoga, yoga!0
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Yoga, yoga, yoga, yoga!
pilates pilates pilates.0 -
I've been using this website (fitnessblender.com) for my lower back, which is very weak. Now, while the video says it's for sciatica, it really stretches the lower back .. and you only do what you can. It's still tough for me, but I can feel it getting better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CbZzeO4P9YA
Or try this:
http://www.fitnessblender.com/v/exercise-detail/Lower-Back-Stretching-Routine/b5/#.UAKyM369vRo.facebook
Good luck!!0 -
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I had a physio make me order a 'wobble cushion' which you can get from Amazon.....the standing on the wobblyness makes your core work for balance and could be a good start.....it was recommended to me to help strengthen my core for lower back problems....0
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Try sitting crunches. Sit in a dining chair and hold on to the seat then bring your knees in towards the body. Should help you build up to floor ones without straining your back.0
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Yoga, yoga, yoga, yoga!0
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pilates pilates pilates.0
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I've been using this website (fitnessblender.com) for my lower back, which is very weak. Now, while the video says it's for sciatica, it really stretches the lower back .. and you only do what you can. It's still tough for me, but I can feel it getting better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CbZzeO4P9YA
Or try this:
http://www.fitnessblender.com/v/exercise-detail/Lower-Back-Stretching-Routine/b5/#.UAKyM369vRo.facebook
Good luck!!0 -
Pilates! The whole focus of Pilates is the core and if you get a good teacher they will be able to help you gradually strengthen.1
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I had a physio make me order a 'wobble cushion' which you can get from Amazon.....the standing on the wobblyness makes your core work for balance and could be a good start.....it was recommended to me to help strengthen my core for lower back problems....
This and planks!0 -
PLANKS!
You won't believe the power of a plank!0 -
Yoga, yoga, yoga, yoga!
pilates pilates pilates.
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Try some moves on a stability ball....I don't know what the exercise is called, but it's like a reverse crunch...really works the back.0
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yoga or pilates, but as a beginner you really need to find a class rather than trying to do it yourself so you know what you need to be doing. You could try googling yoga and get some ideas of the things you need to do.
the weak core is causing the bad back so I hope you can get to a class somewhere. Its the kind of thing you'll feel the benefit from quite quickly, it relaxes you and will help with all your other activities.
the wobble board is a bit like an upside down ball cut in half with a piece to stand on the idea is you stand on (for example) your right leg and try not to wobble. you need to engage your core to be able to do it. It would also strengthen your ankles.
but rather than buying this straight off you could try this with a cushion 1st as it will be slightly easier until you get control.0 -
I've been using this website (fitnessblender.com) for my lower back, which is very weak. Now, while the video says it's for sciatica, it really stretches the lower back .. and you only do what you can. It's still tough for me, but I can feel it getting better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CbZzeO4P9YA
Or try this:
http://www.fitnessblender.com/v/exercise-detail/Lower-Back-Stretching-Routine/b5/#.UAKyM369vRo.facebook
Good luck!!
I like the look of those. This might be a silly question, but does stretching also strengthen?0 -
PLANKS!
You won't believe the power of a plank!0 -
Does your gym have Aquafit classes or any water classes that work the core and back? I take Aquafit at LA Fitness a couple of times a week, and I've seen huge improvements in my core and lower back without pain that way!
I also recommend pilates, but a gym pilates class may be too much for you. I'm new in Pilates and take my gym's class, but the teacher is very good about showing modifications for beginners. Moreover, I've done a lot of research into basic beginning exercises. This site is great because it has over fifty free exercise videos explaining basic pilates here:
http://www.pilatesanytime.com/Pilates-Exercises
This woman also has a lot of good free pilates videos on YouTube:
http://blogilates.com/
Here's an example:http://youtu.be/lCg_gh_fppI
As for yoga, be careful with your back. Yoga can be awesome, but it can also be really hard. Try to find a deep stretch yoga, not one that requires a lot of athleticism, until your core and back strengthen. And don't ever let anyone push on you. I think it's great that your trainer is supportive and aware!
Good luck! I really hope you can try Aquafit! It's a lot of fun and you get a total workout. A lot of people don't seem to take it seriously, because it's usually mostly older people in the classes, but it's great for all ages!0 -
Yoga, yoga, yoga, yoga!
http://yoga.about.com/ is a great place to start, as you can filter by anatomy. You can build your routines based on the areas you need to work on, or just randomly do a pose throughout the day.I usually use Yoga as my stretching routine, so you don't feel like your workout itself is going slow. Classes are great, too, of course, and can help you get the poses correct. Make sure you look for slow-paced ones such as Hatha or Iyengar, and avoid the Ashtanga and "Hot" styles (they're more for advanced practicers).
Also, I found bellydancing to work wonders for the lower back and abs, since it's all about isolating the muscles around the hips. Check out your local community center for both yoga and bellydance classes. You'd probably like a good cabaret bellydance class, because it's very upbeat, but generally low-impact. If you have cable TV, check out your free on-demand listing. Oftentimes, they have programs for yoga and/or bellydancing, which can help if you don't have access to a class.
You can also do traditional weightlifting, but the safety of that probably depends on how strong you already are. If you can't handle a standard Olympic barbell (45lbs) for things like squats or deadlifts, then you might do yourself more harm than good. If you can lift that, then things like deadlifts, barbell squats, and rows can help build your core (don't use a Smith machine, though, it only allows the barbell to go up and down, which not only puts you in weird positions, but doesn't allow you to build those all-important stabilizing muscles).
If you don't have access to weights, you can also do bodyweight stuff. Squats are a great full-body workout, as long as you have your form right. Others also mentioned planks, which are probably the gods of core work. Pushups can also help with your core, as well. If you have access to one of those bodyweight station things (has a pullup bar, a place for dips, etc), then hanging leg lifts are great, too.
Are you doing the crunches/situps at the guidance of your trainer? If not, then I'd probably forego them entirely, or at least check with him/her to make sure you're doing them right. It's surprisingly easy to get them wrong and do more harm than good to your body, which might be why they hurt your back. They're also not really necessary if you're doing the other stuff (above) with any regularity.
On a side note, if you're an "all guns blazing" type of person, your workout speed might be hindering your cause. Depending on what you're doing, you might be injuring your body or doing things the wrong way, risking injury and keeping you from seeing real strength gains. With building strength, slow, controlled movements beat fast, uncontrolled ones any day. If you want to see the difference, take one of your usual weighted exercises where you have a given number of repititions, and slow downs those reps so that each half of the movement takes no less than 3-5 seconds (ie - say you're bench pressing, the act of bringing the bar down to your chest takes 5 seconds, and the act of pushing it back up takes another 3 seconds). Try doing your normal rep range. You will very likely find that it's quite a bit harder.
Also, take a look at what you do outside of your workouts, especially if you have a desk job. Make sure to check your posture periodically and sit/stand up straight. Slouching weakens your core muscles, since they do less work. Straightening up will not only force them to strengthen at least enough to hold yourself upright for hours on end, but will also improve your breathing and circulation, which have their own health benefits.0 -
I have always had problems with my back due to having scoliosis. But since I started doing Pauline Nordin's Butt Bible workout it has helped it tremendously. One move that I solely believe has improved my back is something she calls the superwomen. You lie on your stomach and just lift your chest and back down. Simple move with a lot of benefit. Try that out and see how you feel.0
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Does your gym have Aquafit classes or any water classes that work the core and back? I take Aquafit at LA Fitness a couple of times a week, and I've seen huge improvements in my core and lower back without pain that way!
I also recommend pilates, but a gym pilates class may be too much for you. I'm new in Pilates and take my gym's class, but the teacher is very good about showing modifications for beginners. Moreover, I've done a lot of research into basic beginning exercises. This site is great because it has over fifty free exercise videos explaining basic pilates here:
http://www.pilatesanytime.com/Pilates-Exercises
This woman also has a lot of good free pilates videos on YouTube:
http://blogilates.com/
Here's an example:http://youtu.be/lCg_gh_fppI
As for yoga, be careful with your back. Yoga can be awesome, but it can also be really hard. Try to find a deep stretch yoga, not one that requires a lot of athleticism, until your core and back strengthen. And don't ever let anyone push on you. I think it's great that your trainer is supportive and aware!
Good luck! I really hope you can try Aquafit! It's a lot of fun and you get a total workout. A lot of people don't seem to take it seriously, because it's usually mostly older people in the classes, but it's great for all ages!
the gym I attend is only a small concern, nothing like LA Ftiness so no pool. But thank you for the links, I will check them out. Going on holiday soon and we'll have a private pool so maybe I could look up some moves to try in the pool while I'm away.0 -
Squats, deadlifts, glute ham raises, hyperextensions, good mornings, any ab exercise0
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Yoga, yoga, yoga, yoga!http://yoga.about.com/ is a great place to startAlso, I found bellydancing to work wonders for the lower back and abs, since it's all about isolating the muscles around the hips. Check out your local community center for both yoga and bellydance classes. You'd probably like a good cabaret bellydance class, because it's very upbeat, but generally low-impact. If you have cable TV, check out your free on-demand listing. Oftentimes, they have programs for yoga and/or bellydancing, which can help if you don't have access to a class.You can also do traditional weightlifting, but the safety of that probably depends on how strong you already are. If you can't handle a standard Olympic barbell (45lbs) for things like squats or deadlifts, then you might do yourself more harm than good. If you can lift that, then things like deadlifts, barbell squats, and rows can help build your core (don't use a Smith machine, though, it only allows the barbell to go up and down, which not only puts you in weird positions, but doesn't allow you to build those all-important stabilizing muscles).
If you don't have access to weights, you can also do bodyweight stuff. Squats are a great full-body workout, as long as you have your form right. Others also mentioned planks, which are probably the gods of core work. Pushups can also help with your core, as well. If you have access to one of those bodyweight station things (has a pullup bar, a place for dips, etc), then hanging leg lifts are great, too.Are you doing the crunches/situps at the guidance of your trainer?On a side note, if you're an "all guns blazing" type of person, your workout speed might be hindering your cause.Depending on what you're doing, you might be injuring your body or doing things the wrong way, risking injury and keeping you from seeing real strength gains.With building strength, slow, controlled movements beat fast, uncontrolled ones any day.If you want to see the difference, take one of your usual weighted exercises where you have a given number of repititions, and slow downs those reps so that each half of the movement takes no less than 3-5 seconds (ie - say you're bench pressing, the act of bringing the bar down to your chest takes 5 seconds, and the act of pushing it back up takes another 3 seconds). Try doing your normal rep range. You will very likely find that it's quite a bit harder.Also, take a look at what you do outside of your workouts, especially if you have a desk job. Make sure to check your posture periodically and sit/stand up straight. Slouching weakens your core muscles, since they do less work. Straightening up will not only force them to strengthen at least enough to hold yourself upright for hours on end, but will also improve your breathing and circulation, which have their own health benefits.
Lots to think about, thank you!:flowerforyou:0 -
I have always had problems with my back due to having scoliosis. But since I started doing Pauline Nordin's Butt Bible workout it has helped it tremendously. One move that I solely believe has improved my back is something she calls the superwomen. You lie on your stomach and just lift your chest and back down. Simple move with a lot of benefit. Try that out and see how you feel.0
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Squats, deadlifts, glute ham raises, hyperextensions, good mornings, any ab exercise0
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