Free Birth Control Pill
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Seriously?? You don't see a problem with teens having sex? Wow
I don't see a problem with teens having sex assuming that they are protecting themselves from STDs and pregnancy.0 -
isn't that the truth!If you think it's expensive now, wait until it's "free".....
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If you're ugly like me you don't have to worry about illegitimate sex because you can't get any! Abstinence is the best birth control.0
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What we will likely see is a widespread increase in STD infections because a lot of those who had been exercising self-control due to not being "protected" will now be happily engaged in sexual activity naively thinking that their partners are all healthy and they wont get pregnant.
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And ugliness.....except on Double Shot night down at the Silver Zipper....If you're ugly like me you don't have to worry about illegitimate sex because you can't get any! Abstinence is the best birth control.0 -
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People are very fast to want others to take responsibility for their lives. What some do-gooders will never get is that when you reward people to act out, they act out more, then complain that they don't get enough government money.Whatever happened to people taking care of themselves? Or teaching children abstinence? Why do I or anyone else have to pay for someone's birth control pills?
Have you ever once met a grateful welfare bum?
Um, what about those who lose their jobs? Become disabled?
My family relied on government assistance for 2 years while my husband and I both retrained and got new jobs. That assistance saved my son's life, and kept my daughter healthy. It provided us with food, and we didn't lose our home (though we came damn close a few times). I'm intensely grateful that those programs were out there (and happy that we paid into them for a decade before our catastrophe). I'm happy to be paying into the again.
But, sir, I am no bum...and many people are one layoff decision away from needing the services you so despise. Have some compassion for your fellow humans.
You 110% do not meet the "welfare bum" requirements. You are what the system is SUPPOSED to do. However, the guy across the road that deeded land to his wife, hauled in a singlewide, and then "separated" with her, installed a mailbox, but still lives with his wife and is collecting welfare for both of them is more along the "welfare bum" definition.
Then he hauled in another singlewide, put in another mailbox, and his 18 year old son is doing the same thing. All of them live in one house, but they get the mail at each of their mailboxes every day. He was clever enough to take advantage of the three roads that he has frontage on - so none of them live on the same street as far as the state knows.
Even better - the state paid for his wife's infertility treatments. Then they had twins.
Another thing I'd rather see - us paying for birth control instead of us paying for someone to have kid #4 and #5 with IVF.
THIS
I don't mind helping anybody who is trying to get their act together.
But you know very well there are some lazy welfare bums out there.0 -
I agree. Forty-something and just had an endometrial ablation (burning the uterus). I was on BC for sixteen years! Unfortunately, we Americans don't like to be told to watch what we eat, exercise, and get adequate amounts of sleep.0
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Whatever happened to people taking care of themselves? Or teaching children abstinence? Why do I or anyone else have to pay for someone's birth control pills?
God I love pretty smart girls.0 -
BC is covered by insurance too, but apparently covered isnt good enough, free is necessary.
Viagra is already covered by health insurance. Because apparently men are allowed to have sex, but not women who don't want children, acne, or irregular/heavy periods.What good is free BC without free Viagra?
Btw, it was a comical sarcastic quip not a debating point. Sorry you missed that.
Birth control is not covered by my insurance and is not covered by very many plans. ED is treated like a disease, PMS and prevention of pregnancy is not. I think that part of the debate.0 -
Whatever happened to people taking care of themselves? Or teaching children abstinence? Why do I or anyone else have to pay for someone's birth control pills?
Because pills are cheaper. If not, you're going to be paying for their baby's food, diapers, medical bills etc.0 -
Whatever happened to people taking care of themselves? Or teaching children abstinence? Why do I or anyone else have to pay for someone's birth control pills?
Because pills are cheaper. If not, you're going to be paying for their baby's food, diapers, medical bills etc.
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Also, because that whole abstinence-only sex education doesn't really seem to be working out for us.0 -
It seems so alien to me - living in the UK, to hear that people pay for their birth control...
I always want to know what that person's effective tax rate is when I hear Canadians or anyone in a country with socialized medicine talk about not paying for healthcare.
33% ish
Yeah, I was going to say around 40% depending on your tax bracket. But that's not just health care.
And I keep getting tax rebates in the mail so I'm happy
Thanks for the info. I'm checking my paycheck and my withholdings are 13% and my insurance premium costs are another 13% of my pay, so that's about 26%, I checked my previous job's paychecks, and it was around 28% total. I've always carried insurance.
Do you pay a deductible and do you have 100% coverage? In Canada no to both.0 -
Don't believe in chemical BC..mostly because of the drugs effect on the body....It is scary...especially for the young and mid teens...check your local hospital and see how many girls are admitted with strokes and blood clots....
Didn't threaten my kids...and to this day,...the single ones get told to keep it zipped...the girls and boys...
Let me see... BC training started early...but really hit home when one of the kids friends had the drippy...ozzey goey stuff dripping from their Penis and were afraid they were dying....and the girls....just had to tell them about catfood while the boys listened...evidently did the trick...No STD's or Pregnancies...So far...never really know!
Chemical BC is not a cureall .... just as free healthcare is not a solution.....Sorry to down Canada...good friends are Canadian and must come to the states for decent and fast healthcare...and ask them about palliative care....(That is the nice way of saying you are dying ... nothing we will do...take these drugs and die...even if a heart valve would add 10 or 15 good years to their life...BTW their age is 59)
Just wait for the magic bullet to hit your home...and you are told your child is not a candidate for life sustaining surgery because they will only live another 2-3 years with or without the surgery....
Hope folks open their eyes to the reality...if not...so be it...0 -
Don't believe in chemical BC..mostly because of the drugs effect on the body....It is scary...especially for the young and mid teens...check your local hospital and see how many girls are admitted with strokes and blood clots....
Didn't threaten my kids...and to this day,...the single ones get told to keep it zipped...the girls and boys...
Let me see... BC training started early...but really hit home when one of the kids friends had the drippy...ozzey goey stuff dripping from their Penis and were afraid they were dying....and the girls....just had to tell them about catfood while the boys listened...evidently did the trick...No STD's or Pregnancies...So far...never really know!
Chemical BC is not a cureall .... just as free healthcare is not a solution.....Sorry to down Canada...good friends are Canadian and must come to the states for decent and fast healthcare...and ask them about palliative care....(That is the nice way of saying you are dying ... nothing we will do...take these drugs and die...even if a heart valve would add 10 or 15 good years to their life...BTW their age is 59)
Just wait for the magic bullet to hit your home...and you are told your child is not a candidate for life sustaining surgery because they will only live another 2-3 years with or without the surgery....
Hope folks open their eyes to the reality...if not...so be it...
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jaymek92 said:If everything was reversed and penises suddenly became vaginas, you wouldn't know what to do. You would have so much less power and so fewer rights just because of the sex organs you were born with.
I'm very sorry that you think that you are a powerless female. No one should.
I know powerful men and women and what makes them powerful is their will, drive and intelligence. Their sex has nothing to do with it.
I know many weak and dependent men and women too. What makes them weak and dependent is their lack of intelligence, lack of drive and initiative. Neither their sex nor their race defines who they are.0 -
Don't believe in chemical BC..mostly because of the drugs effect on the body....It is scary...especially for the young and mid teens...check your local hospital and see how many girls are admitted with strokes and blood clots....
Didn't threaten my kids...and to this day,...the single ones get told to keep it zipped...the girls and boys...
Let me see... BC training started early...but really hit home when one of the kids friends had the drippy...ozzey goey stuff dripping from their Penis and were afraid they were dying....and the girls....just had to tell them about catfood while the boys listened...evidently did the trick...No STD's or Pregnancies...So far...never really know!
Chemical BC is not a cureall .... just as free healthcare is not a solution.....Sorry to down Canada...good friends are Canadian and must come to the states for decent and fast healthcare...and ask them about palliative care....(That is the nice way of saying you are dying ... nothing we will do...take these drugs and die...even if a heart valve would add 10 or 15 good years to their life...BTW their age is 59)
Just wait for the magic bullet to hit your home...and you are told your child is not a candidate for life sustaining surgery because they will only live another 2-3 years with or without the surgery....
Hope folks open their eyes to the reality...if not...so be it...
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haha what was that???0 -
Just logical parenting...I guess it is hard to conceive of telling the honest to goodness truth...but if you think about it...every time there is ummm clean things going in to something ummmm unclean...or the reverse...unclean going into something clean.... boom...ozzey...goey...green...catfood...stinking...
God I had a blast with the visuals....the kids friends...were repulsed...but their parents always called and thanked me.....
Didn't threaten my kids...and to this day,...the single ones get told to keep it zipped...the girls and boys...
Let me see... BC training started early...but really hit home when one of the kids friends had the drippy...ozzey goey stuff dripping from their Penis and were afraid they were dying....and the girls....just had to tell them about catfood while the boys listened...evidently did the trick...No STD's or Pregnancies...So far...never really know!
Chemical BC is not a cureall .... just as free healthcare is not a solution.....Sorry to down Canada...good friends are Canadian and must come to the states for decent and fast healthcare...and ask them about palliative care....(That is the nice way of saying you are dying ... nothing we will do...take these drugs and die...even if a heart valve would add 10 or 15 good years to their life...BTW their age is 59)
Just wait for the magic bullet to hit your home...and you are told your child is not a candidate for life sustaining surgery because they will only live another 2-3 years with or without the surgery....
Hope folks open their eyes to the reality...if not...so be it...
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Just logical parenting...I guess it is hard to conceive of telling the honest to goodness truth...but if you think about it...every time there is ummm clean things going in to something ummmm unclean...or the reverse...unclean going into something clean.... boom...ozzey...goey...green...catfood...stinking...
God I had a blast with the visuals....the kids friends...were repulsed...but their parents always called and thanked me.....
My version of logical parenting would just involve telling them the truth, and maybe even using big-girl words like "penis" and "vagina" and "STDs", and how to prevent them, but to each their own I guess.0 -
I'm just grateful my mom works for an OBGYN. I get mine free. I have no insurance and it is not cheap.0
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Teens...well as I said to each his on.....but most of the BC is sugar coated...and they really do not hear what is said with out graphic...explanations...Ask your kids...they will tell you they are not adults yet....and speaking to them as if they are..well guess it works for some kids...Penis Vagina...fine they know good and well what these terms are by the time they are in 1st grade...but understanding the consequences does not begin to happen until well into their 20's for the boys...and late teens for the girls...(If at this age)....Look at the college campus's health center reports...rampant STD's....
Hence the graphic explanations of BC......0 -
im sure someone has already said it but birth control should be given away like candy. the less unwanted kids we have the better of we are.0
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From experience, I would say be VERY careful about IUD's.... I know I thought they would be safe but my "temporary" and "easy" birth control became permanent when I went to have it removed. They couldn't get it out and scans showed it to have perforated my uterus and required surgery to remove... Not worth it imo...0
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I want to thank the Canadians and UKians (?) who posted on this thread. I had been wondering for years how things worked in socialized medicine states. I have to say that it sounds better than letting people die because they can't afford to go to the doctor.
Also, anyone know who pays the cost of all the people who can't pay their medical bills and file bankruptcy? Umm, all of us! We are already paying for it, so we might as well allow for people to see their doctor so that it doesn't become an emergency (as those cost more!). And, for the record, I worked for a bankruptcy law firm, and many, if not most, of our clients had severe medical bills that they would never be able to pay off in their lifetimes. Just FYI0 -
Hmm, would I rather live in the UK where healthcare is slow but free, or live in a country with no free healthcare and get myself into life debt just by having an illness or having a baby? Let me think...................................
Sorry, but this is just a bit generalistic. The NHS is flawed, far from perfect. I'm not going to pretend it isn't. There are lots of parts of it that can be slow but we should be careful of the picture we paint of it.
The speed that the NHS works at is largely geared to the severity of the problem (risk to life) but in general if it is serious you can get treatment same day. All free. Suspected cancer will be referred and consulted on between 1 day up to a maximum of 30 days depending upon the circumstances.
Got an ingrown toenail - expect to wait for an op, possibly months or choose to pay for it yourself.
Suspected bowel cancer - your referral for tests will be same day.
Pregnant? You will get scans on time, free age based screening for disorders, etc and when it comes to giving birth you just turn up at the hospital.
We generally take for granted the level and quality of healthcare available to us "free" in the UK. Of course we pay for it through taxation but lets ignore that.
Complications and mistakes unfortunately happen but they happen the world over and are not unique to the NHS.
The major difference between a private and national health service is that private health providers are keener to undertake a wider range of tests quicker because it is revenue for them and someone will be paying providing there is some semblence of clinical justification.
The one aspect of this that I would be interested in understanding is whether there is a difference in the spread of infectious diseases like TB, measles, mumps, rubella, hepatitus and HIV. Does having to pay for your healthcare, particularly in recessionary times, mean that people delay seeking treatment with consequences to their own health or the health of their family and others?0 -
shes right the NHS is flawed especially the hospitals!!
i recently emigrated to the Netherlands and had to go to A&E recently as i fell off my bike i was there for all of 45 minutes thats including waiting diagnosis and treatment as opposed to the 5 hours i had to wait back in the uk for when i broke my finger!! i spent more time waiting in a uk hospital than i did in treatment i was astounded when i got seen over here0 -
im sure someone has already said it but birth control should be given away like candy. the less unwanted kids we have the better of we are.
Unfortunately those that use birth control are the ones that take responsibility. Those people will benefit from having free birth control but it wont make a difference to the fact that they use it. Unwanted children from people like this will be because of accidents. Accidents happen.
Free birth control does not prevent unwanted kids from those that don't give a f*** because they don't give a f***. They wont use contraception because taking responsibility is not something they understand.
We have had free birth control in the UK for decades and we have one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the world.0 -
im sure someone has already said it but birth control should be given away like candy. the less unwanted kids we have the better of we are.
Unfortunately those that use birth control are the ones that take responsibility. Those people will benefit from having free birth control but it wont make a difference to the fact that they use it. Unwanted children from people like this will be because of accidents. Accidents happen.
Free birth control does not prevent unwanted kids from those that don't give a f*** because they don't give a f***. They wont use contraception because taking responsibility is not something they understand.
We have had free birth control in the UK for decades and we have one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the world.
Of course, I'm of the opinion that birth control should be included in water like fluoride, or at least mandatory up to a certain age, but that's a story for another thread 0 -
It's free in the UK! should be free everywhere i think!0
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Interesting... Viagra is covered by my insurance company, but I don't use it... Should they stop paying just because some of their customers don't use it... bet your opinion is different when it comes to viagra...0
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It's free in the UK! should be free everywhere i think!
Nothing is free.0
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