NET CALORIES?!?!?!? GOOD OR BAD?
_Missy_
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So if you need to burn more calories than you consume, why are there people telling me that net caories are horrible... it doesnt make any sence. if they dont know for sure than i think they need to shut the **** up because its confusing the hell out of me to the point where im about to give up all together.... im 5"4' and weight 135. this is good but i want to be 110. thats my goal. but i dont know what to do anymore because uneducated people want to tell me what they THINK thdy know instead of what they actually know... Help?
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You burn calories just living. If you try to work out to burn a ton too and don't refuel you are going to run into troubles.
How many calories are you trying to consume on a daily basis and how much are you burning? Your diary is not open.0 -
depends on how you set up your profile- if for your activity level you put very lite activity you want to eat back excersize cals. Really you want to NET at least 1200. I am 5'3 and 143 my goal is 135 (for now)- I am set up for 1200 a day and I almost always net 1200- if I don't work out I only eat 1200.0
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its very irritating.. i just dont know how to lose weight in general.0
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You burn calories just living. If you try to work out to burn a ton too and don't refuel you are going to run into troubles.
How many calories are you trying to consume on a daily basis and how much are you burning? Your diary is not open.
i exersice whenever i want, but i ussually burn more than i eat to get a negative net calorie. today i ate 650 ish and i burned 250, but its only 6:30 here. i will end up with a negative 100 net calorie atleast..0 -
i exersice whenever i want, but i ussually burn more than i eat to get a negative net calorie. today i ate 650 ish and i burned 250, but its only 6:30 here. i will end up with a negative 100 net calorie atleast..
Yea, that is probably going to come back and bite you in the a**. You might want to up the calories a bit. And by a bit, I mean it might be a lot. You might want to talk to a nutritionist to see if they can help you find a good medium. I eat 1600 a day give or take 150. I also work out for about an hour a day, just to give you an idea.0 -
People are going to tell you to look up your BMR and never eat below that. You might want to work up to it though.
How long have you been at this?0 -
i exersice whenever i want, but i ussually burn more than i eat to get a negative net calorie. today i ate 650 ish and i burned 250, but its only 6:30 here. i will end up with a negative 100 net calorie atleast..
Yea, that is probably going to come back and bite you in the a**. You might want to up the calories a bit. And by a bit, I mean it might be a lot. You might want to talk to a nutritionist to see if they can help you find a good medium. I eat 1600 a day give or take 150. I also work out for about an hour a day, just to give you an idea.
i cant.. ill end up feeling like **** afterwords.. dont understand. how to people lose weight if they eat way more than they exercise...? isnt the whole part of losing weight to burn more than you put in your body?0 -
I read a lot about muscle loss when you don't net enough-I guess I am also concerned with my organs failing or something bad like that (for not enough fule). Do what works for you, and eat when you are hungry.0
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i exersice whenever i want, but i ussually burn more than i eat to get a negative net calorie. today i ate 650 ish and i burned 250, but its only 6:30 here. i will end up with a negative 100 net calorie atleast..
Yea, that is probably going to come back and bite you in the a**. You might want to up the calories a bit. And by a bit, I mean it might be a lot. You might want to talk to a nutritionist to see if they can help you find a good medium. I eat 1600 a day give or take 150. I also work out for about an hour a day, just to give you an idea.
i cant.. ill end up feeling like **** afterwords.. dont understand. how to people lose weight if they eat way more than they exercise...? isnt the whole part of losing weight to burn more than you put in your body?
You are confusing the meaning of net. Net on this site DOES NOT account for daily energy expenditure outside of exercise. Look up your TDEE (not counting deliberate exercise)...you also need to subtract that from your daily Calorie consumption to determine your deficit/surplus.
Net and deficit/surplus on MFP are two very different things.
Yes, you must be in a caloric deficit to lose weight. Thermodynamics.0 -
You want to net what MFP has your calorie limit set to. Having a negative net is a very bad thing. How do you expect your body to function with nothing because you just exercised it all off? You are going to really mess up your metabolism. Plus it's not sustainable over time. That's what causes yo-yo dieting, severe low cal diet then you start eating again and you gain all of it back again. Yes, you want to have a calorie deficit to lose weight but you also need a minimum amount to eat to give all your organs/cells the nutrients that it needs.0
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There was just a thread that got bumped up about a guy eating not enough and then it came back and bit him in the butt when he upped his caloric intake. If you don't eat enough, your metabolism will slow down. Whenever you start eating more again, (because you won't be able to live like this forever, you'll get very sick), your body will store fat for energy just in case you starve it of the nutrients you need. Your net should be approximately 1200 calories (according to MFP), if you eat less some days, that's fine.. If you eat more some days, don't sweat it! If you exercise and have your net at 1200 the weight will come off FAST! We have the same stats.. And in one month of eating 1200 cal/day NET TOTAL and exercising, I dropped two pant sizes. That's only one month! Just be healthy
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i exersice whenever i want, but i ussually burn more than i eat to get a negative net calorie. today i ate 650 ish and i burned 250, but its only 6:30 here. i will end up with a negative 100 net calorie atleast..
Yea, that is probably going to come back and bite you in the a**. You might want to up the calories a bit. And by a bit, I mean it might be a lot. You might want to talk to a nutritionist to see if they can help you find a good medium. I eat 1600 a day give or take 150. I also work out for about an hour a day, just to give you an idea.
i cant.. ill end up feeling like **** afterwords.. dont understand. how to people lose weight if they eat way more than they exercise...? isnt the whole part of losing weight to burn more than you put in your body?
You might want to talk to a licensed profesisonal then. Maybe you can open your diary so we can see what you are saying?
Every day you live, you might burn, say, 1700 calories (for a number). If you want to lose weight, then you eat below that. For a pound a week, it is 500 below, so 1200. If you work out an extra 1200 calories that day, then you are essentially not feeding your body. Yes it might start going into the fat stores you have and you might lose weight.
What will probably happen is that your body will start hoarding water and food and make you go up instead of down.0 -
There was just a thread that got bumped up about a guy eating not enough and then it came back and bit him in the butt when he upped his caloric intake. If you don't eat enough, your metabolism will slow down. Whenever you start eating more again, (because you won't be able to live like this forever, you'll get very sick), your body will store fat for energy just in case you starve it of the nutrients you need. Your net should be approximately 1200 calories (according to MFP), if you eat less some days, that's fine.. If you eat more some days, don't sweat it! If you exercise and have your net at 1200 the weight will come off FAST! We have the same stats.. And in one month of eating 1200 cal/day NET TOTAL and exercising, I dropped two pant sizes. That's only one month! Just be healthy
Do you have a link to this? Or know what forum it's on?0 -
ive only been at this for about 12 days and ive been working my a** off. so if i start eating 1200 a day, and burning 1000 a day, i will have a net of 200.. is that one good?People are going to tell you to look up your BMR and never eat below that. You might want to work up to it though.
How long have you been at this?0 -
i cant.. ill end up feeling like **** afterwords.. dont understand. how to people lose weight if they eat way more than they exercise...? isnt the whole part of losing weight to burn more than you put in your body?
You burn calories by more than just exercise. EVERYTHING your body does requires and burns energy. Breathing, digesting, thinking, cell regeneration, blood flow. I'm sure you want your body to keep doing those things, right?0 -
ive only been at this for about 12 days and ive been working my a** off. so if i start eating 1200 a day, and burning 1000 a day, i will have a net of 200.. is that one good?People are going to tell you to look up your BMR and never eat below that. You might want to work up to it though.
How long have you been at this?
define burning. Read my previous post. If by burning you mean TDEE + Excercise = 1000 cals...then you have a 200 Calorie surplus. Not good. I doubt this is the case though, your exercise + TDEE is CERTAINLY higher than 1000. If by burning you just mean deliberate (logged) exercise = 1000....then you have a very severe deficit...not good.
Forget MFP....this site messes people up with the NET BS.
This is REALLY simple. Calories eaten should be lower than your TDEE + exercise energy burned (TDEE includes normal daily energy expenditure, it should be up around 2000 give or a take a few hundred)0 -
i have no idea what the hell a tdee is. i meant if i exercise off 1000 calories and eat 1200, i will have a net of 200.. thats it..:explode:0
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Do yourself a favor and go see a dietitian. You aren't going to get the right answer in these forums. It's not expensive.0
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ive only been at this for about 12 days and ive been working my a** off. so if i start eating 1200 a day, and burning 1000 a day, i will have a net of 200.. is that one good?People are going to tell you to look up your BMR and never eat below that. You might want to work up to it though.
How long have you been at this?
No. Let's do some math. Your body needs a certain number of calories every day to do everything it needs to do. Let's say that number is 1200 calories. This is what your body needs just to function. Now, let's say you exercise and burn off 500 calories. Your body still needs that 1200 calories to do everything else, plus it needs the 500 calories to cover the excersize. So your body needs 1700 calories. If you only eat 400 calories, you are shorting your body 1300 calories that it needs. Just to function.0 -
i have no idea what the hell a tdee is. i meant if i exercise off 1000 calories and eat 1200, i will have a net of 200.. thats it..:explode:
OK Hon, Im gonna give it to you simple... NO THIS IS NOT GOOD!!! If you are going to burn 1000 cals by exercising you need to eat AT LEAST 2200 cals a day so that your Net is AT LEAST 1200!!! PERIOD!!!
If you were in a coma, doing NOTHING but the basics your body does all on its own, you need close to 1200 cals a day just for your body to do its thing... Does that make sense?? If you take all those cals away by exercising what is your body going to live on??0 -
i think what people are trying to tell you is that your body uses energy everyday regardless of what you are doing. you burn calories when you sleep and with every single second that you are alive you are using calories. your basal metabolic rate is the amount of calories you burn without doing any activity in the day. so you should net 1200 as in
the amount you eat - the amount you exercise should = 1200 calories. to supply energy for your basal metabolic processes
a simplified why to think about it is aim for 1200 calories a day. and if you exercise then you can eat some of those back or not depending on how hungry you are. but no matter how much activity you do in a day you should aim for 1200. that way your body is getting the fuel it needs to run and that way you can maintain your weight loss. you can't eat 650 calories forever or burn 1000 calories everyday forever. choose something you can maintain. good luck 0 -
Ok, so if your calorie goal is 1200 net calories, you want your final net number at the end of the day to be as close to 1200 as possible. If you eat 1200 calories and burn 1000 through deliberate exercise, your net is 200, and that's very bad for you. If you burn 1000 calories in deliberate exercise, you need to eat a total of about 2200 calories that day. You really need to eat MORE in order to lose weight. If you look at MFP's food diary page on a computer, it will factor in the calories burned from exercise, and show you how you "earned" extra calories to eat.
Oh, and the TDEE thing is accurate, but very confusing for a newbie :-) if you're curious, google a TDEE calculator. It was too confusing for me until I understood how MFP was setting my goals, and that I needed to eat back exercise calories, but it might help you understand what's going on if you look it up.
A dietician might also be able to help you, but when I tried that, I was told to try counting points, like Weight Watchers, and I had already tried that and failed, so my experience with them is a bit jaded. Take my advice in that regard with a grain of salt :-)
I hope this helps, and if you have any more questions feel free to shoot me a message.0 -
You need 1200 calories a day. If you burn off 500 calories, (1200-500), then you are at (700). THEREFORE, you have to eat the calories you burned off (500) back.
Example: you decided to eat a burger and fries or something (1200 calories), then you realize, "Oh shi**, that was all my calories for the day. I better go for a run!" Then, you run 5 miles and burn 500 calories. (1200-500) That puts you BACK to (700) calories for the day. So after your run you would have to make yourself a nice big salad with some lean protein. Let's say it's (500) calories, (700+500=1200)! Then you are done for the day. YOU MUST HAVE 1200 NET CALORIES, 200 net is not enough!0 -
I'll look for it! 0
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I am new to the message board thing- but I want to try and help because it seems like you are very frustrated and that is never good when starting to diet! Let me try and make it as simple as possible.
Your goal is NOT to have your calories burned during exercise alone=your calories ate. If you are burning 1000 calories in an exericse, that means your need to EAT 1000 more calories to lose weight. I know that sounds crazy, but I found out I was no where near eating enough calories and once I started eating more I started consistantly loosing weight.
I suggest going to your Goals page (under the home tab) and look at the "your diet profile" section, it lays it out nicely. Here is what mine says:
Daily: I burn 1,520 calories a day (just living- not with exercising at all)
I need to eat: 1200 calories a day (to keep my metabolism up)
SOOOOO with that being said I am burning more (320 calories more) a day than I am eating...without setting foot in a gym. Now if I work out and burn say 250 calories I can eat an additional 250 calories because my body needs at least 1200 calories. Make sense? The "net" number on your tracker you want to be as close to zero as possible...not over and not under.
I hope that helps you out.0 -
I am new to the message board thing- but I want to try and help because it seems like you are very frustrated and that is never good when starting to diet! Let me try and make it as simple as possible.
Your goal is NOT to have your calories burned during exercise alone=your calories ate. If you are burning 1000 calories in an exericse, that means your need to EAT 1000 more calories to lose weight. I know that sounds crazy, but I found out I was no where near eating enough calories and once I started eating more I started consistantly loosing weight.
I suggest going to your Goals page (under the home tab) and look at the "your diet profile" section, it lays it out nicely. Here is what mine says:
Daily: I burn 1,520 calories a day (just living- not with exercising at all)
I need to eat: 1200 calories a day (to keep my metabolism up)
SOOOOO with that being said I am burning more (320 calories more) a day than I am eating...without setting foot in a gym. Now if I work out and burn say 250 calories I can eat an additional 250 calories because my body needs at least 1200 calories. Make sense? The "net" number on your tracker you want to be as close to zero as possible...not over and not under.
I hope that helps you out.
You do NOT want the NET to be 0 but the big blue number on you homepage should be close to 0 each day and you net number should be close to 1200, I think this is what normajean was trying to say, just used a wrong word....
Sorry the number is green not blue... says calories remaining0 -
you should never ever ever ever have a negative net calorie intake. your heart pumping and your body functioning requires calories. if you are eating too little for even those to take place, on top of exercising, those functions could potentially stop. this is why mfp sets a minumum of 1200 calories per day.0
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People who burn more calories than they eat end up in the hospital because their organs stop working.0
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No, you don't need to "net" 1200 calories. My dietitian told me DO NOT EAT BACK EXERCISE CALORIES. Not to mention the calorie burns on MFP are high anyway. You need to ask a professional. Remember, you get what you pay for, and free information in a forum is going to get you exactly what you pay for.0
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No, you don't need to "net" 1200 calories. My dietitian told me DO NOT EAT BACK EXERCISE CALORIES. Not to mention the calorie burns on MFP are high anyway. You need to ask a professional. Remember, you get what you pay for, and free information in a forum is going to get you exactly what you pay for.
Yeah DEAD if she listens to this!! If she burns EVERYTHING she eats by exercising and tries to keep that up she will be in the Hospital soon!!!
Looking at your tracker you have more body fat to live on than she does!! She is only needing to lose a very small amount!0
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