schmidty13 Member

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Some great points made by many in here. Thank you all for your input and thoughts. I find this all to be very interesting and try to learn as much as I can. Been lifting weights for about two years while trying to lose a bit of fat. I am happy with my scale weight, just not pleased with the softness of it. For the most…

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And I am now thinking of Sheldon Cooper.

interesting points. While I cannot back it up, I am inclined to say that the person you described would be successful in losing or maintaining weight, based on goals, but having zero knowledge of a persons ability to fully process nutrients from say a multi vitamin, I don't know how I would feel regarding the longevity of…

But if you read the post above yours, he acknowledges the requirement of meeting nutrient targets. He never states that one should not eat good food choices. The ongoing stance is that it is the meeting of one's nutrient requirements that leads to success, not which foods accomplish that feat. Ultimately, what I believe…

Great info, thanks for the link. To take the conversation further, would the sentiment then be that "hypertrophy" programs are then best at building muscle mass during a surplus? For example, 5x5 during a cut and then switch to 3x10 during a bulk? These are not my specific goals, just trying to satisfy a personal curiosity…

This is why I get confused. I hear plenty of stories like yours that show 5x5 will put on mass with a surplus, but I never see anything about what specifically happens with 3x10 in a deficit. And kudos, those are good gains in 8 months.

Not trying to answer the what is best question, trying to understand why people don't advocate 8-12 rep programs while lifting on a caloric deficit. Basically trying to confirm my hypothesis that, since you can't gain muscle mass without a calorie surplus, then lifting in the hypertrophy range at deficit is not efficient.

Not positive, but from my understanding your rep ranges in #2 are backwards. Someone else want to confirm?

What do I do if I am still trying to burn off the calories I ate two years ago when this post was started? MFP won't let me have a negative calorie target.

Nobody messes with a fit elf. We hope to be in good enough shape to go to next year's ComicCon as Gambit and Rogue. Big Marvel/X-Men fans here. Also, I second the earlier suggestion of checking out nerd fitness. Great site and good people over there.

Agreed. Much better explanation and insight to the thought process here. I know its common to have a thought in one's head, and have it come out differently when spoken or written. Happens to me all the time.

well done sir, well done

Mention of keytones in an already hostile thread. Can't decide if seeking shelter or finding a good seat to watch the carnage ensue is more appropriate.

But twinkies are bad for you right? And to agree with others, beer snobery is where its at.

Uh........a hypothesis or educated opinion, by definition, are pretty much the opposite of bro-science. And you kinda instigated things a tad with the "IIFYM crew swinging" comment. Nobody was talking IIFYM in this thread. Care to try again?

Bahahahaha!!!!!! You just made my morning. Who needs breakfast???

I approve of "opinions" of others who are able to substantiate their opinions with information provided by experts or otherwise acknowledged individuals. I do not approve of hypothetical and arbitrary determination of a food item being declared unhealthy without substantiated details as to what, exactly, makes it…

This. And to add that it is usually the clean eaters that are quick to criticize the IIFYMers for eating twinkies/bacon/ice cream and generally maintaining a harsh attitude toward said foods, but rarely does an IIFYMer talk bad about eating fresh vegetables/quinoa/lean meats. Nobody bashes someone for NOT eating McDonalds,…

This guy, who seems to be educated on such matters, fails to be able to define the "nutritional difference" himself, so your attempt at implying that IIFYM followers are dumb because they are not "perfectly capable" is negated. http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

Amazing Job! Both to your accomplishments, and your retort to the list in question. Kudos to you!

So much win right here

Well there is an article with all kinds of validated information/facts and quoted/cited sources. I feel more edumacated now as a result. In all seriousness though, there is some very interesting reading in the comments section of that one. And you think arguments around here get brutal.

And just as many have difficulty understanding why their opinions get hammered around here when they are put up against fact. Fact vs opinion, the win will always go to the fact.

Yup.

I am always in the mood for a good nerd, but taking advantage of a school age minor is not a fantasy I can endorse.

What I meant by that is this. If I lift a weight that is difficult for me to complete the 8-10th rep, I end up with soreness the next day, but not pain. If I lift a heavier weight that is difficult to complete 5 reps, I end up with pain, not typical post-workout muscle soreness. I hope this clarifies better.

Thanks for all the replies/suggestions everyone. I think I will try starting over with Stronglifts and see how it goes.

It's not doing the weight that is the issue. I can successfully do 5x5 with more weight than just the bar. It's that when doing that weight it seems to aggravate something in my shoulder (pain, not soreness). If I lift to just under failure at a weight that I can rep 8-10 times I end up with soreness, but not the pain.…