Vegetables out of a bag unhealthy?
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jennifer_417 wrote: »I'm uncertain what about a bag or a box makes something unhealthy to begin with? Does it affect the nutritional value somehow? Also, how do you get your groceries home?
anything boxed or bagged = processed which = not clean which = bad /unhealthy4 -
cerise_noir wrote: »Famof72015 wrote: »I honestly wasn't looking for smart *kitten* responses, so thank you to those who answered my question and didn't make fun of it. I teach my my children to not make fun of people to everyone who just made fun of my question, thanks it made me feel great for asking.
Wow.
No one was making fun of you. This post was completely unnecessary.
I'm sure someone was in all these posts.6 -
jennifer_417 wrote: »I'm uncertain what about a bag or a box makes something unhealthy to begin with? Does it affect the nutritional value somehow? Also, how do you get your groceries home?
anything boxed or bagged = processed which = not clean which = bad /unhealthy
I appreciate what you're trying to do here, cut to the chase of why this terminology is so prevalent and misunderstood, but I actually would be interested, if the OP is still around, in hearing her answer to why she believes foods in boxes or bags should be avoided. Sometimes getting a person to state in their own words why they believe something, is helpful to getting them to see an alternative perspective.10 -
I don't know about the OP, but i asked a similar question when i first started here.
It was something about are frozen veggies the same as fresh when it comes to nutrition, as i was under the impression that frozen stuff lost a lot of nutrients ( i know better now).
I had it drummed into me my whole life that "fresh is best".4 -
Christine_72 wrote: »I don't know about the OP, but i asked a similar question when i first started here.
It was something about are frozen veggies the same as fresh when it comes to nutrition, as i was under the impression that frozen stuff lost a lot of nutrients ( i know better now).
I had it drummed into me my whole life that "fresh is best".
Fresh is best is probably true, but the big misconception is that the non-frozen veg at the supermarket is actually "fresh".5 -
I haven't had frozen veggies in 15 years. Have they gotten any better? My mom always bought frozen and they were limp and soggy.1
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jennybearlv wrote: »I haven't had frozen veggies in 15 years. Have they gotten any better? My mom always bought frozen and they were limp and soggy.
Most all frozen fruit and veg are flash frozen now, but cooking method plays a huge factor in whether or not frozen veg ends up limp or soggy. Very high heat stir frying, for example, results in frozen veg that maintains its crispness.7 -
jennybearlv wrote: »I haven't had frozen veggies in 15 years. Have they gotten any better? My mom always bought frozen and they were limp and soggy.
Yeah, I'm with you. They may allegedly have more nutrients but they're blech on texture. I got given a huge bunch of frozen veg and just use them in soups.1 -
jennybearlv wrote: »I haven't had frozen veggies in 15 years. Have they gotten any better? My mom always bought frozen and they were limp and soggy.
Flash frozen are about as good as you can get- frequently better than "fresh" especially if they are out of season.
The only thing I don't like frozen are zucchini and peppers- they don't tend to come back to life very well.3 -
CafeRacer808 wrote: »jennybearlv wrote: »I haven't had frozen veggies in 15 years. Have they gotten any better? My mom always bought frozen and they were limp and soggy.
Most all frozen fruit and veg are flash frozen now, but cooking method plays a huge factor in whether or not frozen veg ends up limp or soggy. Very high heat stir frying, for example, results in frozen veg that maintains its crispness.
Exactly. Sounds like your mom just overcooked them. My mom does that with fresh green beans. Cooks them to mush and thinks they're great.5 -
WinoGelato wrote: »jennifer_417 wrote: »I'm uncertain what about a bag or a box makes something unhealthy to begin with? Does it affect the nutritional value somehow? Also, how do you get your groceries home?
anything boxed or bagged = processed which = not clean which = bad /unhealthy
I appreciate what you're trying to do here, cut to the chase of why this terminology is so prevalent and misunderstood, but I actually would be interested, if the OP is still around, in hearing her answer to why she believes foods in boxes or bags should be avoided. Sometimes getting a person to state in their own words why they believe something, is helpful to getting them to see an alternative perspective.
My money is on processed but I would be curious about this too.1 -
CafeRacer808 wrote: »jennybearlv wrote: »I haven't had frozen veggies in 15 years. Have they gotten any better? My mom always bought frozen and they were limp and soggy.
Most all frozen fruit and veg are flash frozen now, but cooking method plays a huge factor in whether or not frozen veg ends up limp or soggy. Very high heat stir frying, for example, results in frozen veg that maintains its crispness.
Exactly. Sounds like your mom just overcooked them. My mom does that with fresh green beans. Cooks them to mush and thinks they're great.
Blaahhh i bet plenty of adults won't eat veggies because of the way their parents cooked them when they were young, and they assume that's what vegetables are meant to be like. Boiled to death veggies taste terrible, and so do canned veggies, if this is what they were fed growing up, I can't blame them for disliking them.4 -
Christine_72 wrote: »CafeRacer808 wrote: »jennybearlv wrote: »I haven't had frozen veggies in 15 years. Have they gotten any better? My mom always bought frozen and they were limp and soggy.
Most all frozen fruit and veg are flash frozen now, but cooking method plays a huge factor in whether or not frozen veg ends up limp or soggy. Very high heat stir frying, for example, results in frozen veg that maintains its crispness.
Exactly. Sounds like your mom just overcooked them. My mom does that with fresh green beans. Cooks them to mush and thinks they're great.
Blaahhh i bet plenty of adults won't eat veggies because of the way their parents cooked them when they were young, and they assume that's what vegetables are meant to be like. Boiled to death veggies taste terrible, and so do canned veggies, if this is what they were fed growing up, I can't blame them for disliking them.
This is exactly me. Growing up with fresh or canned veg boiled to death. I don't think they were even served with any seasoning. Yuck! When I learned about roasted veg it was like YES.3 -
We use mostly frozen vegetables in the winter. I live in a northern climate. In the summer I buy a lot more that is fresh because the quality is fairly good. I live in an agricultural area so I have the benefit of buying local (yum) in most seasons. I don't really care for canned vegetables. I grew up on frozen vegetables.
My frozen vegetables aren't soggy unless I overcook them, but I've found that frozen vegetables aren't as great for roasting as fresh. We steam a lot of vegetables here. You would think my husband was allergic to seasonings.1 -
CafeRacer808 wrote: »jennybearlv wrote: »I haven't had frozen veggies in 15 years. Have they gotten any better? My mom always bought frozen and they were limp and soggy.
Most all frozen fruit and veg are flash frozen now, but cooking method plays a huge factor in whether or not frozen veg ends up limp or soggy. Very high heat stir frying, for example, results in frozen veg that maintains its crispness.
Exactly. Sounds like your mom just overcooked them. My mom does that with fresh green beans. Cooks them to mush and thinks they're great.
Yeah, my mom was pretty good with fresh, but usually with frozen she'd stick it in the microwave and overcook it. But my dad is the better cook in their house.0 -
OP doesn't say frozen though - just bagged so in my mind that means like the salads in a bag, baby carrots, pre-chopped veggies etc. But either way I am not following how a containtainment item makes them unhealthy or changes the nutritional value.4
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How do you buy vegetables without bags?
Well, you would buy it fresh?
Back to the OPs question, vegetables in a bag are far better than no vegetables at all.
I would stay away from baby carrots. I have heard that the way they are processed is not the best.
Frozen vegetables are also healthy. Canned, not as much due to extra sodium, but still better than none at all.1 -
Christine_72 wrote: »CafeRacer808 wrote: »jennybearlv wrote: »I haven't had frozen veggies in 15 years. Have they gotten any better? My mom always bought frozen and they were limp and soggy.
Most all frozen fruit and veg are flash frozen now, but cooking method plays a huge factor in whether or not frozen veg ends up limp or soggy. Very high heat stir frying, for example, results in frozen veg that maintains its crispness.
Exactly. Sounds like your mom just overcooked them. My mom does that with fresh green beans. Cooks them to mush and thinks they're great.
Blaahhh i bet plenty of adults won't eat veggies because of the way their parents cooked them when they were young, and they assume that's what vegetables are meant to be like. Boiled to death veggies taste terrible, and so do canned veggies, if this is what they were fed growing up, I can't blame them for disliking them.
Growing up we had either fresh picked garden veggies in season or canned, Yuck on the canned. One thing we had frequently that most people did not were platters of raw veggies: carrots, celery, green onions, cabbage wedges, turnips,radishes, etc. This was the 60's BTW4 -
My first thought when I read this title was "vegetables out of a bag ... like potato chips!?!"10
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CafeRacer808 wrote: »jennybearlv wrote: »I haven't had frozen veggies in 15 years. Have they gotten any better? My mom always bought frozen and they were limp and soggy.
Most all frozen fruit and veg are flash frozen now, but cooking method plays a huge factor in whether or not frozen veg ends up limp or soggy. Very high heat stir frying, for example, results in frozen veg that maintains its crispness.
Exactly. Sounds like your mom just overcooked them. My mom does that with fresh green beans. Cooks them to mush and thinks they're great.
Yeah, my mom was pretty good with fresh, but usually with frozen she'd stick it in the microwave and overcook it. But my dad is the better cook in their house.
That is exactly how my mom cooked them, in a bowl with plastic wrap over it in the microwave. I don't recall ever seeing a steamer insert in our kitchen or eating any vegetable roasted. She microwaved canned as well, but you really can't make those any mushier.
I live two hours from the Central Valley, so there is always something fresh and quality all year. I think I'll keep avoiding the frozen, but I can see how useful they would be for someone up north or living far from a grocery store.
To not completely hijack your thread, OP, sorry. I think frozen veggies would be acceptable. Canned as well as long as you aren't watching sodium. I think cut up bagged veggies are overpriced, but I've got more time than money. Just make sure you wash them before eating them! Remember when all those people got sick from E. coli in bagged "prewashed" organic spinach?0
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