Healthy does not mean calorie free
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Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »lucerorojo wrote: »A lot of people have no idea that cico Works. The media and diet fitness industry have said it does not. If people succeeded at weight loss than a lot of people would be unemployed in the diet fitness industry.
It goes to show two things:
1) How clever (and deceptive) the marketing is in the diet/nutrition/fitness industry.
2) How uneducated the general population is about diet/nutrition/fitness.
It's a little bit of both. I roll my eyes when my coworkers don't understand how I can lose weight with carbs. I explain them carbs is not what matters for weight loss, calories do. But they get confused. They think if your high on either carbs or calories that you get fat when in the end it's just the calories that matter.
I've tried explaining the concept of calories to a few people and they either don't "get it" or don't believe it....
Yea, but I don't blame people for not knowing. When I started lifting, I didn't know any better. It took a couple of years of doing personal research to find out what's true and what info is false. There are too many conflicting information especially on the internet. I thank God for people like Alan Aragon, Brad Schoenfeld, Mike Matthews andthe aworkoutroutine website.8 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »I don't know anyone like this in real life, but I get frustrated when I look for snack ideas on the internet that would be nice to have on a weight loss diet and I get tons of energy balls full of nuts, dates, and peanut butter. If I wanted to waste 100 calories I would save myself the hassle and buy cookies, at least I would get more than one bite out of them.
Oh I have witnessed this too! Friend brought energy balls to work and were 120 calories each little ball!!! WTH!? I wanted to spit it out and wipe my tongue off....it wasnt worth it to me!
But it's healthy, right? lol
Seriously. Drives me nuts. So many of those 'healthy' recipes have as many calories as the normal stuff. Sure, it might be a bit more filling sometimes, but that doesn't mean it's actually worth the calories taste-wise.
One day I needed a snack before an active evening but I only had time stop at the gas station on the way and I just really wanted a Twix. My hangry brain made me get trail mix instead and I ended up eating the whole bag. Healthier than the Twix, sure, but 800 cals in the bag and 220 for the Twix I should have just got.26 -
So true!2
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I usually just smile and nod when I hear "just go vegan you don't have to count calories, the weight will fall off" etc. Like there are no calorie dense vegan foods...coconut cream, nuts, pasta, veganaise, french fries in veg oil, Oreos...
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I have been losing steady and slow and logging on MFP.
One of the ladies I work with is semi trying to lose and doesn't understand why she is not losing.
As we were eating our lunches she looked at my container of a casserole I made and yes, it was small. She said is that what your having and she then looked at her container which was quite large. I proceeded to tell her that she had close to 4 servings she was eating and I was eating a single serving.
She then replied....."but its healthy ingredients"!
I answered, but, its NOT calorie free just cause its healthy.
Do others have the concept in their minds that "healthy" "whole" "raw" "vegan" means calorie free?
My co worker sure did and I'm not sure she wanted to hear it.
Most people don't even know what a calorie is1 -
KiwiLifter wrote: »Calories count, so count your calories.
This need to be on a t-shirt or bumper sticker.5 -
Drives me crazy trying to explain to my coworkers that I'm not "cheating" or "eating bad" because I've opted for bread instead of rice or oats.
"eating bread today? but you usually eat so healthy!"8 -
People in general are uneducated about how to diet... they all need to become MFP members3
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LivingtheLeanDream wrote: »People in general are uneducated about how to diet... they all need to become MFP members
Not all mfp members are educated either. I still see people insisting that carbs are bad17 -
yup. what I see is that a lot of the packaged or prepared foods touting healthy ingredients end up full of high calorie ingredients to meet the taste expectations of many people - coconut products, avocado, nuts and seeds - crunch and fat, and of course, sugar in some form. Sure, maybe a more nutritious substitute, but you can't eat anymore of it than what you're swapping it in for. Certain candy bars being lower cal than some granola bars...most people have no clue. Salad with olives, cheese, creamy dressing. I wish everyone would learn every food choice requires portion control....so you might as well eat what you like.4
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Correct. Everything has calories.1
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yup. what I see is that a lot of the packaged or prepared foods touting healthy ingredients end up full of high calorie ingredients to meet the taste expectations of many people - coconut products, avocado, nuts and seeds - crunch and fat, and of course, sugar in some form. Sure, maybe a more nutritious substitute, but you can't eat anymore of it than what you're swapping it in for. Certain candy bars being lower cal than some granola bars...most people have no clue. Salad with olives, cheese, creamy dressing. I wish everyone would learn every food choice requires portion control....so you might as well eat what you like.
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My first few years of weight loss were extra difficult because I subscribed to the "just eat healthy" idea and didn't count calories. When I look back, I cringe at some of the things I did, like forcing myself to drink tons of orange juice & grapefruit juice.
A lot of people do not know better.
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seltzermint555 wrote: »My first few years of weight loss were extra difficult because I subscribed to the "just eat healthy" idea and didn't count calories. When I look back, I cringe at some of the things I did, like forcing myself to drink tons of orange juice & grapefruit juice.
A lot of people do not know better.
My friends still tell me that juice is healthy.2 -
seltzermint555 wrote: »My first few years of weight loss were extra difficult because I subscribed to the "just eat healthy" idea and didn't count calories. When I look back, I cringe at some of the things I did, like forcing myself to drink tons of orange juice & grapefruit juice.
A lot of people do not know better.
My friends still tell me that juice is healthy.
Well fructose is healthy right?
Diabetes educators never subscribe to drinking fruit juices only in the event of hypoglycemia! Even then I don't.......I drink a glass of 1% milk to bring up and even out blood sugar.
It kills me I see parents giving their little ones juice in a bottle and then at my job we see these same little ones with silver caps on all their teeth......ignorance....utter ignorance!0 -
I had a similar instance like this just the other day with someone at work. All she could talk about during our lunch break was how she was on a low carb diet and that was the only thing that works for weight loss. She went on to say that carbs were the enemy and it's no wonder how people are so unhealthy these days because carbs are in everything. She even found it necessary to condescend others because of their lunch choices.. "Do you know how many carbs are in that?" in a superior manner. It drove me crazy! I held my tongue because I'm sure anything I said would have fallen on deaf ears anyway. Hopefully your coworker will think about what you said!6
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You can "eat healthy" all you like, but unless you eat less than you burn, you won't lose a gram.
Also, please allow me to post this:
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The real issue is portion size. If someone eats a massive helping of "healthy" food, they're getting multiple times the amount of calories listed for a portion.
Over the years, bottles of carbonated beverages have increased in size from 8oz or 10oz when I was a child to 20oz now. People still typically drink the whole bottle, but when I read the label it says 2 Servings. So drinking all at once means consuming double of all the stats listed as per serving.2 -
I see this in my friends on Weight Watchers over consuming zero point foods and not losing weight or buying their package foods which is lower in nutrition and high in additives which make you hungry afterwards ,mfp showed me how to eat balanced meals in my calorie budget.3
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My ex wife was exactly the same, she would say things like "I can't eat that it's fattening" she couldn't understand 200 cals of cream is no worse than 200 cals of fruit and veg5
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