why were people so skinny in the 70s?
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
This is nonsense. Studies that seem to show this have been pretty thoroughly debunked. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889157516302113vikinglander wrote: »The soil is so depleted that the nutrient values of most produce has dropped anywhere from 10 to 80 percent in the last 70 years, for 'healthy' foods like broccoli, tomato, peppers, etc.
Such as?Think of how many fast food places that didn't exist back then that exist now.
Yeah, that's great hype and conspiracy theory.
There are certainly a lot of new chains that didn't exist before but that's not the problem, that's simply supplying a demand. People eat out more, but it's not just the fast food restaurants, more upscale resturants always fight hard against any nutrional information laws because they have very high calorie counts there too. Boston Pizza pad thai has over 2000 calories just in one meal alone as an example.
Certainly, people eat more and move less and most don't even realize how much they are really consuming.
Four words:
Claim Jumper
Cheesecake Factory6 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
This is nonsense. Studies that seem to show this have been pretty thoroughly debunked. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889157516302113vikinglander wrote: »The soil is so depleted that the nutrient values of most produce has dropped anywhere from 10 to 80 percent in the last 70 years, for 'healthy' foods like broccoli, tomato, peppers, etc.
Such as?Think of how many fast food places that didn't exist back then that exist now.
Yeah, that's great hype and conspiracy theory.
There are certainly a lot of new chains that didn't exist before but that's not the problem, that's simply supplying a demand. People eat out more, but it's not just the fast food restaurants, more upscale resturants always fight hard against any nutrional information laws because they have very high calorie counts there too. Boston Pizza pad thai has over 2000 calories just in one meal alone as an example.
Certainly, people eat more and move less and most don't even realize how much they are really consuming.
Four words:
Claim Jumper
Cheesecake Factory
2 words:
I'm hungry!
Wait, is a contraction one or two words because then it's really 3 words...damn you English!
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Well I grew up in the 70's and ate Mcdonald's once a week, ate school lunch every day (tater tots, pizza, sloppy joe's, lasagne etc.) drank soda, and ate lots of candy (went to the candy store everyday after school). So why was I so skinny? I never sat still and played till dinner time. So physical activity was the main reason.
Same diet here, my most frequent lunch in high school was a plate of greasy chicken nuggets, fries, Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, and a Coke. My dad is from the south and almost everything we ate was fried in Crisco oil. I didn't get fat because the portions were not excessive and I was always physically active.3 -
as kids we played outside all day, McDonalds was a treat once a week0
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
This is nonsense. Studies that seem to show this have been pretty thoroughly debunked. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889157516302113vikinglander wrote: »The soil is so depleted that the nutrient values of most produce has dropped anywhere from 10 to 80 percent in the last 70 years, for 'healthy' foods like broccoli, tomato, peppers, etc.
Such as?Think of how many fast food places that didn't exist back then that exist now.
Yeah, that's great hype and conspiracy theory.
There are certainly a lot of new chains that didn't exist before but that's not the problem, that's simply supplying a demand. People eat out more, but it's not just the fast food restaurants, more upscale resturants always fight hard against any nutrional information laws because they have very high calorie counts there too. Boston Pizza pad thai has over 2000 calories just in one meal alone as an example.
Certainly, people eat more and move less and most don't even realize how much they are really consuming.
Four words:
Claim Jumper
Cheesecake Factory
Claim Jumper has amazing huge portions. I got a sandwich there once that I'm pretty sure had two full avocados on it.3 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »There are certainly a lot of new chains that didn't exist before but that's not the problem, that's simply supplying a demand. People eat out more, but it's not just the fast food restaurants, more upscale resturants always fight hard against any nutrional information laws because they have very high calorie counts there too. Boston Pizza pad thai has over 2000 calories just in one meal alone as an example.
Certainly, people eat more and move less and most don't even realize how much they are really consuming.
ditto on that. I don't get why fast food establishments get all the flack they do.. it's quite easy to walk in there and order a reasonably-portioned item with a reasonable number of calories (even for my small 4'10" frame) for $1-2 off the dollar menu that they almost all have. That's going to be a much harder feat at most restaurants.3 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
This is nonsense. Studies that seem to show this have been pretty thoroughly debunked. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889157516302113vikinglander wrote: »The soil is so depleted that the nutrient values of most produce has dropped anywhere from 10 to 80 percent in the last 70 years, for 'healthy' foods like broccoli, tomato, peppers, etc.
Such as?Think of how many fast food places that didn't exist back then that exist now.
Yeah, that's great hype and conspiracy theory.
There are certainly a lot of new chains that didn't exist before but that's not the problem, that's simply supplying a demand. People eat out more, but it's not just the fast food restaurants, more upscale resturants always fight hard against any nutrional information laws because they have very high calorie counts there too. Boston Pizza pad thai has over 2000 calories just in one meal alone as an example.
Certainly, people eat more and move less and most don't even realize how much they are really consuming.
Four words:
Claim Jumper
Cheesecake Factory
Claim Jumper has amazing huge portions. I got a sandwich there once that I'm pretty sure had two full avocados on it.
Yes, that place is ridiculous.3 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »There are certainly a lot of new chains that didn't exist before but that's not the problem, that's simply supplying a demand. People eat out more, but it's not just the fast food restaurants, more upscale resturants always fight hard against any nutrional information laws because they have very high calorie counts there too. Boston Pizza pad thai has over 2000 calories just in one meal alone as an example.
Certainly, people eat more and move less and most don't even realize how much they are really consuming.
ditto on that. I don't get why fast food establishments get all the flack they do.. it's quite easy to walk in there and order a reasonably-portioned item with a reasonable number of calories (even for my small 4'10" frame) for $1-2 off the dollar menu that they almost all have. That's going to be a much harder feat at most restaurants.
A typical meal at McDonald's for me would be a hamburger and small fries with water or diet coke for about 500 calories. Certainly not the worst meal in the world and this would be normal in the 50's, except for the drink would be a small coke and the burger was slightly larger so maybe 700 calories total for a dinner. Most people wouldn't even recognize this as normal portions today even though this is what a normal portion of those items should look like.2 -
Does anyone think the burgers are a lot smaller at Burger King than they were years ago. Maybe it was because i was young, but Whoppers used to be huge! They seem to have shrunk in size over the years...0
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One contributor is the introduction of chemical "obesogens" into our food chain. These chemicals alter how we store fat. It has so poisoned our food system that even wildlife are fatter than they were 30 years ago!
Add that chemical alteration to a mostly sedentary lifestyle, bigger portion sizes and higher sugar consumption and you have an epidemic of obesity. Just look at the children. There is no reason a child should ever be over weight. They should have little fat burning engines just from the energy needed to grow.12 -
tensquaredlives wrote: »One contributor is the introduction of chemical "obesogens" into our food chain. These chemicals alter how we store fat. It has so poisoned our food system that even wildlife are fatter than they were 30 years ago!
Add that chemical alteration to a mostly sedentary lifestyle, bigger portion sizes and higher sugar consumption and you have an epidemic of obesity. Just look at the children. There is no reason a child should ever be over weight. They should have little fat burning engines just from the energy needed to grow.
Wait, what? Can you post your sources? I mean, "obesogens"? That really sounds made up.3 -
tensquaredlives wrote: »One contributor is the introduction of chemical "obesogens" into our food chain. These chemicals alter how we store fat. It has so poisoned our food system that even wildlife are fatter than they were 30 years ago!
Add that chemical alteration to a mostly sedentary lifestyle, bigger portion sizes and higher sugar consumption and you have an epidemic of obesity. Just look at the children. There is no reason a child should ever be over weight. They should have little fat burning engines just from the energy needed to grow.
Wait, what? Can you post your sources? I mean, "obesogens"? That really sounds made up.
Unsurprisingly, a search for "obesogens" turns up links to Dr. Oz and numerous other crackpot woo sites among the top results.15 -
tensquaredlives wrote: »One contributor is the introduction of chemical "obesogens" into our food chain. These chemicals alter how we store fat. It has so poisoned our food system that even wildlife are fatter than they were 30 years ago!
Add that chemical alteration to a mostly sedentary lifestyle, bigger portion sizes and higher sugar consumption and you have an epidemic of obesity. Just look at the children. There is no reason a child should ever be over weight. They should have little fat burning engines just from the energy needed to grow.
Wait, what? Can you post your sources? I mean, "obesogens"? That really sounds made up.
Ah Dr. Oz
http://www.doctoroz.com/article/understanding-obesogens6 -
Think of how many fast food places that didn't exist back then that exist now.
Were you alive in the '70s? There were plenty of fast food options.
Just off the top of my head:
Jack in the Box
McDonalds
Carl's Jr.
Wendy's
Arby's
Alfie's Fish & Chips
Alberto's/Roberto's
Long John Silver
Taco Bell
Naugles
Burger King
Kentucky Fried Chicken
Der Weinerschnitzel
Round Table Pizza
Pizza Hut
Baskin Robbins Ice Cream
Dairy Queen
etc. etc.
Again, it depends on where you lived. I only recognize three of those names from back then. (And I was alive since the '60s).2 -
Think of how many fast food places that didn't exist back then that exist now.
Were you alive in the '70s? There were plenty of fast food options.
Just off the top of my head:
Jack in the Box
McDonalds
Carl's Jr.
Wendy's
Arby's
Alfie's Fish & Chips
Alberto's/Roberto's
Long John Silver
Taco Bell
Naugles
Burger King
Kentucky Fried Chicken
Der Weinerschnitzel
Round Table Pizza
Pizza Hut
Baskin Robbins Ice Cream
Dairy Queen
etc. etc.
Again, it depends on where you lived. I only recognize three of those names from back then. (And I was alive since the '60s).
I grew up in San Diego, CA (population around 700,000 in the '70s (not counting all the adjoining cities, which probably put the community as a whole at, or close to, 1,000,000 people). Huge variety of restaurants, foods from many different countries/ethnicities. And since we were not much more than a stone's throw from the international border, Mexican fast food restaurants were as omnipresent as Starbucks are nowadays - rolled tacos with guacamole, quesadillas and carne asada burritos everywhere you turned!
Smorgasbord restaurants (nowadays called buffets or all-you-can-eat) were pretty popular too, we had several that we would hit on a fairly regular basis. It was an economical way for my parents to feed two teenage boys with insatiable appetites and the propensity to eat anything and everything that wasn't nailed down.6 -
Think of how many fast food places that didn't exist back then that exist now.
Were you alive in the '70s? There were plenty of fast food options.
Just off the top of my head:
Jack in the Box
McDonalds
Carl's Jr.
Wendy's
Arby's
Alfie's Fish & Chips
Alberto's/Roberto's
Long John Silver
Taco Bell
Naugles
Burger King
Kentucky Fried Chicken
Der Weinerschnitzel
Round Table Pizza
Pizza Hut
Baskin Robbins Ice Cream
Dairy Queen
etc. etc.
Again, it depends on where you lived. I only recognize three of those names from back then. (And I was alive since the '60s).
Me, Mc Donalds.
That's it.0 -
Think of how many fast food places that didn't exist back then that exist now.
Were you alive in the '70s? There were plenty of fast food options.
Just off the top of my head:
Jack in the Box
McDonalds
Carl's Jr.
Wendy's
Arby's
Alfie's Fish & Chips
Alberto's/Roberto's
Long John Silver
Taco Bell
Naugles
Burger King
Kentucky Fried Chicken
Der Weinerschnitzel
Round Table Pizza
Pizza Hut
Baskin Robbins Ice Cream
Dairy Queen
etc. etc.
Again, it depends on where you lived. I only recognize three of those names from back then. (And I was alive since the '60s).
I grew up in San Diego, CA (population around 700,000 in the '70s (not counting all the adjoining cities, which probably put the community as a whole at, or close to, 1,000,000 people). Huge variety of restaurants, foods from many different countries/ethnicities. And since we were not much more than a stone's throw from the international border, Mexican fast food restaurants were as omnipresent as Starbucks are nowadays - rolled tacos with guacamole, quesadillas and carne asada burritos everywhere you turned!
Smorgasbord restaurants (nowadays called buffets or all-you-can-eat) were pretty popular too, we had several that we would hit on a fairly regular basis. It was an economical way for my parents to feed two teenage boys with insatiable appetites and the propensity to eat anything and everything that wasn't nailed down.
I was in a small midwest community and college in a city of around 100k. Between those and 2-3 other communities in the 100k range I would be in on a regular basis and an occasional trip to the Chicago area I remember about half the list from the 70's in those areas.0 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »tensquaredlives wrote: »One contributor is the introduction of chemical "obesogens" into our food chain. These chemicals alter how we store fat. It has so poisoned our food system that even wildlife are fatter than they were 30 years ago!
Add that chemical alteration to a mostly sedentary lifestyle, bigger portion sizes and higher sugar consumption and you have an epidemic of obesity. Just look at the children. There is no reason a child should ever be over weight. They should have little fat burning engines just from the energy needed to grow.
Wait, what? Can you post your sources? I mean, "obesogens"? That really sounds made up.
Ah Dr. Oz
http://www.doctoroz.com/article/understanding-obesogens
And here I just thought the poster above was being glib and making a joke. (a little sad for humanity that I might be wrong about that).1 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »tensquaredlives wrote: »One contributor is the introduction of chemical "obesogens" into our food chain. These chemicals alter how we store fat. It has so poisoned our food system that even wildlife are fatter than they were 30 years ago!
Add that chemical alteration to a mostly sedentary lifestyle, bigger portion sizes and higher sugar consumption and you have an epidemic of obesity. Just look at the children. There is no reason a child should ever be over weight. They should have little fat burning engines just from the energy needed to grow.
Wait, what? Can you post your sources? I mean, "obesogens"? That really sounds made up.
Ah Dr. Oz
http://www.doctoroz.com/article/understanding-obesogens
And here I just thought the poster above was being glib and making a joke. (a little sad for humanity that I might be wrong about that).
Don't forget the fat virus. Between the virus and the obesogens (TM) you don't stand a chance.5 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »tensquaredlives wrote: »One contributor is the introduction of chemical "obesogens" into our food chain. These chemicals alter how we store fat. It has so poisoned our food system that even wildlife are fatter than they were 30 years ago!
Add that chemical alteration to a mostly sedentary lifestyle, bigger portion sizes and higher sugar consumption and you have an epidemic of obesity. Just look at the children. There is no reason a child should ever be over weight. They should have little fat burning engines just from the energy needed to grow.
Wait, what? Can you post your sources? I mean, "obesogens"? That really sounds made up.
Ah Dr. Oz
http://www.doctoroz.com/article/understanding-obesogens
And here I just thought the poster above was being glib and making a joke. (a little sad for humanity that I might be wrong about that).
Yeah, I kept reading the comment over to make sure I wasn't falling into the trap of making a serious response to sarcasm. Nope. I didn't think to look up "obesogens" on the web, it sounded too made-up.1
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