Not sure who to believe

MelodyandBarbells · October 2014

They know about the human body. I think you should find a primary care doctor who's willing to spend quality time with you. Doesn't have to be long per se, but answering your questions, making you feel comfortable, etc.

Eh... I suspect that much sugar would have some sort of negative effect on anyone, personally

jacksonpt · October 2014

2 things strike me here...

1) common sense. if you're eating so much sugar that you're blacking out, then cut back on the sugar. Do we really need a medical diagnosis here?

2) medical expertise. A doctor examined you, saw you have low blood pressure, and made a recommendation based on that. Why on earth would you question that?

Like one of the previous posters said - do both. Cut back on the sugar (don't eliminate it completely, just cut back), AND deal with the blood pressure issue. I don't see how either of those things are life changing scenarios. Perhaps you're just looking for someone to tell you to keep eating crazy amounts of chocolate???

hookilau · October 2014

jacksonpt wrote: »

2 things strike me here...

1) common sense. if you're eating so much sugar that you're blacking out, then cut back on the sugar. Do we really need a medical diagnosis here?

2) medical expertise. A doctor examined you, saw you have low blood pressure, and made a recommendation based on that. Why on earth would you question that?

Like one of the previous posters said - do both. Cut back on the sugar (don't eliminate it completely, just cut back), AND deal with the blood pressure issue. I don't see how either of those things are life changing scenarios. Perhaps you're just looking for someone to tell you to keep eating crazy amounts of chocolate???

Common sense at it's finest, right here.

jacksonpt · October 2014

TheKingsChampion wrote: »

The challenge I had with my friend had us eat A LOT of sugar. I myself ate a whole cake with frosting, 400g chocolate, half a tray of fudge and a 200g of cookies. I got sick later that night, after which the blackout followed. Next day I was fine.

I feel like there might be some bigger issues at play, here, besides simply blacking out.

justcat206 · October 2014

I used to black out at the gym. My doctor ran tests and found out I was eating almost NO protein which was causing crazy blood sugar issues. Once I gave up vegetarianism (I just wasn't good at it), I stopped blacking out or "getting dizzy and seeing black." But that's just my experience.

I've also had the low blood-pressure type of dizziness caused by lack of sodium and that was usually only when I stood up from sitting/laying down. I concur - go get more tests just to be sure.

TheKingsChampion · October 2014

jacksonpt wrote: »

Perhaps you're just looking for someone to tell you to keep eating crazy amounts of chocolate???

Not really. It's just the sugar diagnose was out of place. The reason I listed the challenge and the sugar blackout was to explain how much it would actually take to give me the symptoms I'm experiencing.

I don't eat that much and I don't have any symptoms whatsoever from eating 100g of chocolate. There's no energy surge and no slump either.

But the sugar doctor said I had to eliminate all sugar (even fruit) and it didn't make sense to me because of that.

TheKingsChampion · October 2014

jacksonpt wrote: »

TheKingsChampion wrote: »

The challenge I had with my friend had us eat A LOT of sugar. I myself ate a whole cake with frosting, 400g chocolate, half a tray of fudge and a 200g of cookies. I got sick later that night, after which the blackout followed. Next day I was fine.

I feel like there might be some bigger issues at play, here, besides simply blacking out.

Don't worry. Was a celebration which gave birth to the challenge. Doesn't happen often. But I always used to think I was "immune" to the effects of too much sugar since I can tolerate so much without any effects. I certainly saw my limits that night Lol.

hookilau · October 2014

TheKingsChampion wrote: »

jacksonpt wrote: »

TheKingsChampion wrote: »

The challenge I had with my friend had us eat A LOT of sugar. I myself ate a whole cake with frosting, 400g chocolate, half a tray of fudge and a 200g of cookies. I got sick later that night, after which the blackout followed. Next day I was fine.

I feel like there might be some bigger issues at play, here, besides simply blacking out.

Don't worry. Was a celebration which gave birth to the challenge. Doesn't happen often. But I always used to think I was "immune" to the effects of too much sugar since I can tolerate so much without any effects. I certainly saw my limits that night Lol.

I agree...bigger issues at play for sure.

penny0919 · October 2014

I'm surprised neither mentioned your anemia. I had anemia with all three of my pregnancies and every time my most dramatic symptom was getting very dizzy when I stood up and feeling like I was going to black out.

deksgrl · October 2014

Get a new doctor and explain your symptoms and get a full physical including blood work.

rainbowblu · October 2014

TheKingsChampion wrote: »

JaneiR36 wrote: »

SezxyStef wrote: »

I have similar reactions due to my low blood pressure...easily taken care of by staying hydrated....

As for the sugar eh...I eat a whole chocolate bar everynight and never have had issues.

Question though. What's a whole bar? 200 calories or 2000 calories of the stuff? The sheer quantity might help explain the OP's issues

I can eat 6 cupcakes and be fine. I can eat 200g of chocolate and be fine. I can eat a whole can of caramel and be fine. Or a whole pint of ice cream. But not on the same day.

The challenge I had with my friend had us eat A LOT of sugar. I myself ate a whole cake with frosting, 400g chocolate, half a tray of fudge and a 200g of cookies. I got sick later that night, after which the blackout followed. Next day I was fine.

I do have anemia so I suppose that can contribute. But that's why I said it takes a lot of sugar to have any effect on me. So I don't know I don't eat as much as that challenge everyday. My weekly goal is never more than 100-200g over if it's over at all.

I guess I can also understand the low BP because looking at my diary, for weeks and weeks I have never once hit sodium. I don't even hit half (it's because I cook my own food) and I drink tons of water.

From eating so much sugar you raised your blood glucose WAY high, the next day it went too low, too fast. I imagine that you told the first DR. about your 'SUGAR CHALLENGE" and common sense told this Dr. that the spike, then fall was the cause of your dizziness...You really need to see another DR. who will do a FULL exam including blood work because neither blood sugar or blood pressure issues is a laughing matter-each will only get WORSE if not controlled.

TheKingsChampion · October 2014

penny0919 wrote: »

I'm surprised neither mentioned your anemia. I had anemia with all three of my pregnancies and every time my most dramatic symptom was getting very dizzy when I stood up and feeling like I was going to black out.

I've had anemia since I was a child. I didn't have the dizziness since then...but I'm always tired and sluggish because of it. That and I kind of look a little bit like a vampire...or someone who is dead...cold and pale. Raaarh!

Maybe that's why sugar and coffee doesn't work on me?

*shrugs*

AngieM76 · October 2014

I can just tell you from my experience, my daughter had this happening to her quite a bit and when she went to her doctor, she was also told to increase her salt intake because her blood pressure was low. Since then she has been aware of her salt intake and has not had problems.

Skout528 · October 2014

Did he give you the results of a blood sugar test (blood) or tell you to take your blood pressure regularly at home? If not, that's what you should do. Doctors are not bad, they are not only out to get people to stop eating good food. They have an ethical and legal responsibility to give you advice based on what they see and what you complain are your symptoms. Did you see an endocrinologist? Cardiologist? If you were visiting from out of town, did you only TALK to the doctors or did they do full exams? The smartest thing to do is learn what your numbers should be and go with that, not subjective evidence like "my eyes go dark." I'm a medical specialist and there are no normal reasons somebody would black out.

TheKingsChampion · October 2014

Skout528 wrote: »

Did he give you the results of a blood sugar test (blood) or tell you to take your blood pressure regularly at home? If not, that's what you should do. Doctors are not bad, they are not only out to get people to stop eating good food. They have an ethical and legal responsibility to give you advice based on what they see and what you complain are your symptoms. Did you see an endocrinologist? Cardiologist? If you were visiting from out of town, did you only TALK to the doctors or did they do full exams? The smartest thing to do is learn what your numbers should be and go with that, not subjective evidence like "my eyes go dark." I'm a medical specialist and there are no normal reasons somebody would black out.

Neither requested blood tests. The first one (who said to quit sugar) didn't do anything. He just told me to quit sugar after I said I get dizzy standing up. It wasn't until after he said that, that I told him about the challenge I did and the amount of sugar it takes to have effect on me. And he still stuck to his guns.

The second one, I told him upfront about the challenge I did it because the first one said to quit sugar. He said it 'could' have an effect, but then he checked my blood pressure and he said it was low and "You need to eat more salt and LESS sweets" << Less ... not none as suggested by the first doctor. He never asked twice about the challenge. And their just normal house doctors. Nobody special I guess.

The problem I guess is just really that the first doctor just told me outright to quit sugar before he knew about the challenge or anything. Just by listening to my symptoms. It was really confusing, because his suggestion technically wasn't based on anything.