No strength, can't do cardio, and I need to lose and get strong! Begging for answers!

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  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,951 Member
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    dbmata wrote: »
    Cortelli wrote: »
    Strength isn't a blessing bestowed by magic. Strength is built. And everyone starts from where they're at when they decide to start!

    With your doctor's advice, select some strength-building exercises or a program, and get at it. Some months from now you'll no longer be able to say that your strength is nothing or that you're ashamed because of it.

    all of this.

    Well, unless you're a nord.

    A what?

    One of the northern peoples! A nord! Norse! Viking blood in them veins! lol. (It's a joke from another thread.)
  • sofaking6
    sofaking6 Posts: 4,589 Member
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    OP - please ignore the posters telling you that your issues must be just like theirs and therefore your recovery and your abilities during and after recovery are just like theirs as well. That's untrue and I'm sorry that you're getting poorly-thought-out and unsafe advice here. Please don't go lift a bunch of weights just because some stranger on the internet told you to! Being on a fitness site does not make one a fitness expert.

    DEFINITELY talk to your doctor. Ask them to give you safe limits, then go ahead and exercise within those limits. Feel free to come back and post the same question here *with* those limits laid out for people to respond to.

    The nice thing about being very weak (I also was in a bad accident that hurt my back so I've been at a point of serious muscle deterioration) is that you'll get to feel the improvements very quickly!
  • Negative_X
    Negative_X Posts: 296 Member
    edited October 2014
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    Let me clarify. I can do cardio. Light cardio. I'm battling some health issues that have me seeing a cardiologist and the aspects of it put cardio out of the question. Example, brisk walk puts my HR in the 170s and 30 second run hits 210.

    Next, my strength is nothing. I know. I am ashamed. I am so ashamed of what I've done to my body. After battling eating disorders my entire life, then gaining 70lbs on bed rest while pregnant, AND being lazy/scared/intimidated about ever improving in the last year after my daughter was born, I am a mess. Example, I can't hold a plank position 30 seconds, my legs burn from walking at a pace that is normal to most, and my back is extremely weak and painful. (Have I mentioned I am only 21?)

    BG: I have already lost nearly 20 lbs (technically 30 but I started MFP after losing 10) by eating healthy + cardio. I couldn't take the pain of cardio anymore, and when I found out why, I was absolutely crushed. It has thrown me off a lot, and I stopped all efforts for 2 months. I was/am so discouraged. I also have some personal issues going on right now that have/had my motivation at 0. I have about 30 more to lose as my first goal (natural weight), and to go from there.

    Does anyone have exercise advice? Please keep in mind that I am very weak, weaker than most people even experience pre-exercise. I don't mind the pain but I'm simply not capable of a lot of common exercises and programs at this time. Thank you for reading or any responses!


    First, try not to be so hard on yourself. Granted, my situation isn't like yours. But...

    I used to be 240lbs and couldn't even barely bench press the bar (only 45lbs) for 10 reps when I first started. I couldn't even get on a elliptical for 10 minutes without about falling off due to extreme exhaustion. (heart rate would peg past 200+ as well) I had more health problem than you could shake a stick at and was looking at a early grave.

    I now can bench press 280lbs x10, I run marathons and my heart rate rarely goes over 140-150 unless I'm doing wind sprints and I'm a solid 170lb's now @ 11% bodyfat. BUT... it took a few years.

    Stick with it. It's worth it... trust me. If you feel like you need to start over... start slow, start small. 5 minutes here walking, then 10 minutes a few days later... make small incremental changes, like just cutting out sugar for a month and that's it, then expanding on it. (consult a nutritionist first) If something isn't working, change it. There is a solution to every problem. You merely need to find yours.

    Post here and post often. Treat this as a personal blog, reach out for help. Expect bad days, they will happen and sometimes often at first, but that's ok... just keep moving, making small steps forward.

    From the sounds of it, first and foremost, you really need to seek help from a doctor and nutritional expert as well. Do NOT jump into any new fitness regimen without consulting your doctor first. Seems your health issues are not the norm'. Then create a plan and utilize any and all tools to get healthy from there. YOU ARE WORTH IT!

    You GOT this!
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,951 Member
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    Can you carry your purse now too? :mrgreen:

    yup.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,874 Member
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    Given that you have medical conditions here, you need to talk to your doctor about any and all of this. Nobody here is qualified to give you any advice with a medical condition.

    I would also add that strength is built...everyone starts out week and becomes stronger through hard work and dedication to a resistance training routine...but you should talk to your doctor about what is acceptable for you right now. Resistance work gets the heart pumping too.
  • 20yearsyounger
    20yearsyounger Posts: 1,643 Member
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    Resistance probably gets the heart pumping even more in quick bursts because it's anerobic. You really need to talk to your doc before you give yourself a heart attack.
  • performfully
    performfully Posts: 126 Member
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    First, sorry I had poofed. It's crazy at school right now and I haven't had time to jump back on here.
    Second, I really do appreciate all the advice. "Go to your doctor" might seem obvious, but honestly I hadn't even asked. The cardiologist hadn't actually said to take it easy, but I go back in about a week and a half so I will see what is going on.
    Quick question, which doctor would give me exercise advice? I have considered a nutritionist but I'm not really a bad eater, although I do eat emotionally (and boy do I feel emotional about feeling so helpless!).
    And yes, I could eat at a deficit and lose. I kind of am, I have trouble eating the 1300 that MFP has me set too. I tend to go way over or way under which makes me skittish because of the past ED issues. I also lose much better low carb, but who wants to do that :D
    Again, I am thankful for the words. I am always so incredibly hard on myself and compare myself to people a lot. I forget that I shouldn't.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,951 Member
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    Which doctor? Your cardiologist is a specialist in your heart. Talk to them first. Then your general practice doctor, who should be your primary care person, and coordinating with your cardiologist.

    I would also speak with a nutritionist who has a background in working with people who have had an ED in the past or currently have one.

    It's great you're asking these questions, these are good ones.
  • sljohnson1207
    sljohnson1207 Posts: 818 Member
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    First, sorry I had poofed. It's crazy at school right now and I haven't had time to jump back on here.
    Second, I really do appreciate all the advice. "Go to your doctor" might seem obvious, but honestly I hadn't even asked. The cardiologist hadn't actually said to take it easy, but I go back in about a week and a half so I will see what is going on.
    Quick question, which doctor would give me exercise advice? I have considered a nutritionist but I'm not really a bad eater, although I do eat emotionally (and boy do I feel emotional about feeling so helpless!).
    And yes, I could eat at a deficit and lose. I kind of am, I have trouble eating the 1300 that MFP has me set too. I tend to go way over or way under which makes me skittish because of the past ED issues. I also lose much better low carb, but who wants to do that :D
    Again, I am thankful for the words. I am always so incredibly hard on myself and compare myself to people a lot. I forget that I shouldn't.

    Any chance your heart issues are related to the past EDs? Hopefully they are temporary issues, and your cardiologist can give you the best advice on your limitations and what to do to heal your heart. It is a very important organ, no?

  • performfully
    performfully Posts: 126 Member
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    Any chance your heart issues are related to the past EDs? Hopefully they are temporary issues, and your cardiologist can give you the best advice on your limitations and what to do to heal your heart. It is a very important organ, no?

    It is believed to be from birth, when I was a child I couldn't run or keep up with kids without the bad chest pains, but there aren't definite answers yet. Soon, I hope.

    I will inquire about a nutritionist after I speak to my cardiologist next week.
  • ucabucca
    ucabucca Posts: 606 Member
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    you need to talk to MD and build a treatment tem same as with ED work as a team. Ask about using physical therapist or a trainer who has background and is willing to help monitor medical issues. I know it can work with a trainer after I was medically released I was walking first then allowed back in gym with a trainer only and it has worked I am very active and lifting heavy It has been a hard road with tears at times as I was told no I couldn't but it was the right path slow and steady no major setbacks this way
    Good Luck but please do not do this alone get help
  • CipherZero
    CipherZero Posts: 1,418 Member
    edited October 2014
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    Open heart surgery patient here. I'll pile on with "talk to your doctor", but also when he gives you restrictions, always ask "What can I do?" as your follow-up question and don't take gauzy suggestions; try to nail down specifics.
  • performfully
    performfully Posts: 126 Member
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    CipherZero wrote: »
    Open heart surgery patient here. I'll pile on with "talk to your doctor", but also when he gives you restrictions, always ask "What can I do?" as your follow-up question and don't take gauzy suggestions; try to nail down specifics.
    Unfortunately I kind of made this mistake! But the good news is, I can exercise! That's about all he said, but I have been stopping anytime I get 'abnormal' chest pain. Today is the first time I did some cardio for 30 minutes in months and feel okay!

    So an update if anyone is curious, I do have a partial diagnosis. As it turns out my heart was making extra beats, and I have high BP. So I am on a combination medicine for that. But also half of my heart is enlarged and the ultrasound didn't show why, they are going to do another with dye in my blood to see if there is a hole shooting blood somewhere it should not be. That is next week. He thinks it should be easily managed :D
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,951 Member
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    a hole shooting blood.

    jesus, and I complain that I have problems. Get healthy.
  • iheartinsanity
    iheartinsanity Posts: 205 Member
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    I know people said you don't "NEED" to lift. You don't need to lift weights, but you do need strength training. I do a ton of body weight exercises. I live in an extremely small apartment and pending a move (so I cancelled my gym membership) - just waiting for the green light on when we'll move. So yes, body weight DOES work and it would probably work for you just as good as lifting weights. I personally can get a crazy high HR from weight lifting compared to just body weight.

    http://greatist.com/fitness/50-bodyweight-exercises-you-can-do-anywhere
  • iheartinsanity
    iheartinsanity Posts: 205 Member
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    I know you mentioned light cardio, but walking? People seriously under estimate how awesome walking is. I walk to run a lot of my errands daily since I live "in town". The extra expenditure really helps me maintain at a healthy weight. Plus I earn a little extra in my calories, too!
  • Dees2
    Dees2 Posts: 2 Member
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    Do nothing until you consult with your doctor, then if he/she advises find a qualified exercise physiologist who is trained to work with clients who have medical problems.
    I know there are good "personal trainers" out there but I feel you need someone with a degree qualification given your medical history.
    Good luck!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,535 Member
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    Before you start any exercising, get clearance from your cardiologist on ones you may be able to perform without endangering yourself.

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  • vickydicks1
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    I struggle with this too but i found swimming works i go once a day for 60 mins and do laps you can go at your own pace and it helps to tone to
  • 20yearsyounger
    20yearsyounger Posts: 1,643 Member
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    CipherZero wrote: »
    Open heart surgery patient here. I'll pile on with "talk to your doctor", but also when he gives you restrictions, always ask "What can I do?" as your follow-up question and don't take gauzy suggestions; try to nail down specifics.
    Unfortunately I kind of made this mistake! But the good news is, I can exercise! That's about all he said, but I have been stopping anytime I get 'abnormal' chest pain. Today is the first time I did some cardio for 30 minutes in months and feel okay!

    So an update if anyone is curious, I do have a partial diagnosis. As it turns out my heart was making extra beats, and I have high BP. So I am on a combination medicine for that. But also half of my heart is enlarged and the ultrasound didn't show why, they are going to do another with dye in my blood to see if there is a hole shooting blood somewhere it should not be. That is next week. He thinks it should be easily managed :D

    I've had enlarged heart concerns on one side because of the heart working to hard and high BP. My systolic is usually high while my diastolic is normal to low. Your doc will have a plan for that.The hole shooting blood, now that's something. Hope everything works out well next week.