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Spam or Abuse points.

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  • LeonCX
    LeonCX Posts: 862 Member
    edited October 2014
    Do you know if there's any threads out there that thoroughly explain this feature more?
    yes, there is a thread on spam flagging in Website Suggestions.
  • missiontofitness
    missiontofitness Posts: 4,059 Member


    @annangelich, if you go to your notifications, you can see if you have any negative points due to spam or abuse flags. A mod will contact you if you have broken a rule/get a strike.

  • shai74
    shai74 Posts: 512 Member
    You click that little bell then choose "All Notifications" and you can see it. I would like to see who reported me for what post. It's really not fair that I've offended someone and I don't know who or why, takes the fun out of it.
  • 1princesswarrior
    1princesswarrior Posts: 1,242 Member
    After reading the guidelines to the various flag options and having years of software testing experience my suggestion is to just not worry until you hear from a mod. The guidelines say nothing will happen on your account until it is looked at and compared against MFP guidelines. Then the point system will be taken into consideration.

    Unfortunately with a community the size of MFP the new forum software cannot be beta tested with a reasonably sized group of users so the mods and administrators must sort through all of the flags they are receiving at this point.

    So until a better method of sorting through the flags is developed this is going to continue. I apologize for being such a downer but I have been on both sides of the coin with this issue and there is not a simple solution.
  • missiontofitness
    missiontofitness Posts: 4,059 Member
    After reading the guidelines to the various flag options and having years of software testing experience my suggestion is to just not worry until you hear from a mod. The guidelines say nothing will happen on your account until it is looked at and compared against MFP guidelines. Then the point system will be taken into consideration.

    Unfortunately with a community the size of MFP the new forum software cannot be beta tested with a reasonably sized group of users so the mods and administrators must sort through all of the flags they are receiving at this point.

    So until a better method of sorting through the flags is developed this is going to continue. I apologize for being such a downer but I have been on both sides of the coin with this issue and there is not a simple solution.

    Do you think they're keeping track of the threads in which you are flagged, especially given that people are flag happy right now for non-guideline violations? Because if I have -100 points and there's nothing to fall back on to cross check, that seems like a flawed way to determine whether someone violated the guidelines.

    ..I hope I don't ever reach -100. -2 is quite enough for me.
  • Aviva92
    Aviva92 Posts: 2,333 Member
    shai74 wrote: »
    You click that little bell then choose "All Notifications" and you can see it. I would like to see who reported me for what post. It's really not fair that I've offended someone and I don't know who or why, takes the fun out of it.

    yeah, i saw that. i was just confused how people in this thread knew when a thread had spam or flags all over the place. i just see where i can see if i have any notifications, but how do people see this for other people?
  • shadow2soul
    shadow2soul Posts: 7,692 Member
    edited October 2014
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    shai74 wrote: »
    You click that little bell then choose "All Notifications" and you can see it. I would like to see who reported me for what post. It's really not fair that I've offended someone and I don't know who or why, takes the fun out of it.

    yeah, i saw that. i was just confused how people in this thread knew when a thread had spam or flags all over the place. i just see where i can see if i have any notifications, but how do people see this for other people?

    If a post is flagged, the number of flags will show under the posters avatar right next to the flag button.

    edit: example -
    p3b8gy4kkx5x.jpg

    Then if you click the flag icon, you can see what other users have flagged it as. In this case, this was the OP in a thread. It has 3 spam flags and 2 abuse flags.

  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    edited October 2014
    oh, I see you got flagged OP.

    I totes didn't do it. (I did!)

    It doesn't matter. :) Mods are allowing users to attack others, flagged items aren't a big deal until the automatic system closes it. Which from what I saw earlier, took 12 reports.
  • annangelich
    annangelich Posts: 402 Member

    @annangelich, if you go to your notifications, you can see if you have any negative points due to spam or abuse flags. A mod will contact you if you have broken a rule/get a strike.
    Thank you, I just happened upon this when I went to view all notifications. Fortunately I have none. Glad to hear that a mod will contact me (for future reference). Thank you for answering my question. I
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    notifications? We have notifications?
    What is this magic, facebook?
  • trinatrina1984
    trinatrina1984 Posts: 1,018 Member
    At this rate everyone that forums will have spam or abuse points next to their names making it completely meaningless. I agree a thumbs up / thumbs down system would be far more sensible along with an additional way of reporting spam.
  • lorib642
    lorib642 Posts: 1,942 Member
  • happyfeetrebel1
    happyfeetrebel1 Posts: 1,005 Member
    edited October 2014
    I've looked ALL over..where is the 'notifications' part of my screen? LOL..I promise I'm not an idiot, just can't see it!! I've even looked in 'help'

    /sigh, maybe I need to go back to bed :)

    *edited, because as soon as I posted, it magically appeared!
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    shai74 wrote: »
    Well, seems to me if it's not going to be monitored, the function shouldn't be there at all. Nor should it incur "points".

    If you abuse someone, and it's reported to Admin, and they decide you did in fact abuse someone (by reading the post), then they can take appropriate action. Likewise with spam. If you post ads for viagra, then you should have your account removed.

    I don't think it's supposed to be a points/merit/demerit system like the thumbs up/thumbs down or positive/negative rep systems you get on some sites... I thought it was purely for the moderators to see what posts are being flagged, and if they agree with the reason for flagging they'll take action and if they don't, they will just leave it. So if a mod hasn't told you that a post was against community guidelines, then just ignore the flags.

    I would imagine if someone is abusing the flag system by flagging posts for no reason or as a way to annoy others, mods would deal with that. I don't think that's the same as someone who's easily offended flagging people who disagree with them... those people are just oversensitive and not doing it to annoy people or for entertainment.
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
    edited October 2014
    MrM27 wrote: »
    In the mean time, at least I know I'm in the top pack with -85 points. That includes 24 spam posts. Which is surprising since I never post spam. Obviously people abuse the flag system when they are butt hurt.

    I'm guessing nearly all of them are from the same person, amirite?

  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    The problem is, anytime someone doesn't agree with your opinion, they hit that button. Just separates the adults from the children in here.
  • trinatrina1984
    trinatrina1984 Posts: 1,018 Member
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    The problem is, anytime someone doesn't agree with your opinion, they hit that button. Just separates the adults from the children in here.

    Almost flagged you as a joke but then got scared and ran away :)
  • nicsflyingcircus
    nicsflyingcircus Posts: 2,736 Member
    Well, I have an abuse point. Go me. >:)
  • missiontofitness
    missiontofitness Posts: 4,059 Member
    Well, I have an abuse point. Go me. >:)

    I have an abuse point AND a spam point. Beat that!
  • Aviva92
    Aviva92 Posts: 2,333 Member
    edited October 2014
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    shai74 wrote: »
    You click that little bell then choose "All Notifications" and you can see it. I would like to see who reported me for what post. It's really not fair that I've offended someone and I don't know who or why, takes the fun out of it.

    yeah, i saw that. i was just confused how people in this thread knew when a thread had spam or flags all over the place. i just see where i can see if i have any notifications, but how do people see this for other people?

    If a post is flagged, the number of flags will show under the posters avatar right next to the flag button.

    edit: example -
    p3b8gy4kkx5x.jpg

    Then if you click the flag icon, you can see what other users have flagged it as. In this case, this was the OP in a thread. It has 3 spam flags and 2 abuse flags.

    ooooh, i see now. thanks. seems like a silly way to annoy people that's mostly meaningless anyway.