Herbalife weight loss
import6969
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So i have been on Herbalife for the last 2 weeks losing 17lbs in total 8 in one week and 9 on my second week which is great, but i cant help feeling that it cant be right, for one dont exercise at all and i have not followed the Herbalife method correctly, i am taking in less calories and all that but it just seems a lot.
Could the scales be wrong or could my coach be lying to get me to buy more products?
Has anyone here been a similar situation?
Could the scales be wrong or could my coach be lying to get me to buy more products?
Has anyone here been a similar situation?
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Temporary solutions yield temporary results.
Herbalife or not, you're eating at a deficit and losing weight. You could do the same thing on a diet of cake and Cheetos. You are your coach's piggy bank, so of course they're going to tell you great things.0 -
Eat less calories than you burn = weightloss
when you first start out you will notice a bigger loss due to mostly water weight.
Drop the herbalife *kitten*, get rid of the "coach" it's a scam and an overly priced one.
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Your first few weeks of weight loss is primarily water weight. Regardless of if you were just eating less or using Herbalife, you would lose water weight.
IMO, herbalife is a waste of money. You can get the same results by weighing/measuring all of your food and logging it in MFP. Just eat to the calorie goal MFP (plus about half of your exercise calories if you earn any) and save your money. Herbalife is great at making your wallet lose volume, but it isn't a sustainable way of life. And once you stop herbalife, what then?1 -
Your first few weeks of weight loss is primarily water weight. Regardless of if you were just eating less or using Herbalife, you would lose water weight.
IMO, herbalife is a waste of money. You can get the same results by weighing/measuring all of your food and logging it in MFP. Just eat to the calorie goal MFP (plus about half of your exercise calories if you earn any) and save your money. Herbalife is great at making your wallet lose volume, but it isn't a sustainable way of life. And once you stop herbalife, what then?
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I have used this product before and it did give me results. But I don't recommend it to anyone. Losing weight is a lifestyle change. Unless you plan on drinking that stuff for the rest of your life then go for it but I think regular exercise and a healthy diet is the way to go.0
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Thanks guys i might finish the kit this month and just go on my own with some advice from this website, it will save me £120 per month.0
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My friend was a herbalife coach for a while and she said it was terrible. People see great results quickly, but they soon start feeling the effects of having very little food and when going off herbalife they put the weight back on and sometimes more. Be careful!0
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Avoid herbalife! Please!
I'm a nurse, I know a patient that went into complete liver failure from the supplement. She needed a liver transplant. She almost died. Then that liver failed and she needed another one. Again, barely made it out alive. I guess it helped her lose weight--I think all the sickness got her down to about 90lbs!0 -
I'd like to know a little more about why Herbalife is thought to be a scam. There is a distributer in my neighborhood that also offers free workouts and make most of their money by selling the shakes they make in the store, and the ingredients on the labels aren't terrible. It covers my current shortage of iron (which I should probably get checked out) and keeps me full. It also tastes freaking delicious. I have already been tracking my exercise and food intake here, I've lost 30lbs before discovering this place and I think the free classes are cool. However, I'm afriad that soon I may be obligated to buy something, though I am already addicted to the shakes and try and buy them when they are discounted (or like this morning, I was the only one to respond to the promo on FB and show up to do the workout, so one of the people distributing it paid for my shake!) as they sell them at 7 bucks a pop. I know I could make my own at home. Do all protein/weightloss powders have this bad rap? Or just Herbalife? I don't see anything sneaky in it, I know that it's a MLM thing, but it is a real product and I don't see anything wrong.0
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import6969 wrote: »Thanks guys i might finish the kit this month and just go on my own with some advice from this website, it will save me £120 per month.
120 a month??? Holy jeebus cheezeballs!! That's extortion!! People actually convince people they need to spend that much? I had no respect for Herbalife before, but now I'm gobsmacked...
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If one googles herbalife MLM you'll get all the info you need...0
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Practically all MLM products are made by a 3rd party manufacturer with a "proprietary blend". These blends don't actual dosage amounts, so just "mentioning" that an ingredient in a product for many is enough for them to believe it's in the right dosage for it to be effective.ogmomma2012 wrote: »I'd like to know a little more about why Herbalife is thought to be a scam. There is a distributer in my neighborhood that also offers free workouts and make most of their money by selling the shakes they make in the store, and the ingredients on the labels aren't terrible. It covers my current shortage of iron (which I should probably get checked out) and keeps me full. It also tastes freaking delicious. I have already been tracking my exercise and food intake here, I've lost 30lbs before discovering this place and I think the free classes are cool. However, I'm afriad that soon I may be obligated to buy something, though I am already addicted to the shakes and try and buy them when they are discounted (or like this morning, I was the only one to respond to the promo on FB and show up to do the workout, so one of the people distributing it paid for my shake!) as they sell them at 7 bucks a pop. I know I could make my own at home. Do all protein/weightloss powders have this bad rap? Or just Herbalife? I don't see anything sneaky in it, I know that it's a MLM thing, but it is a real product and I don't see anything wrong.
3rd party manufacturers will also use lower quality raw product. Much of it from China where there is no regulation.
So what are you paying the 7 bucks for? Well about $2 or so for it goes to manufacturing, and the other $5 gets divided up amongst the other "upline" who had nothing to do with you buying it.
Wouldn't it better to save that $5 towards making your own?
Incidently, no shake works without calorie deficit.
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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Practically all MLM products are made by a 3rd party manufacturer with a "proprietary blend". These blends don't actual dosage amounts, so just "mentioning" that an ingredient in a product for many is enough for them to believe it's in the right dosage for it to be effective.ogmomma2012 wrote: »I'd like to know a little more about why Herbalife is thought to be a scam. There is a distributer in my neighborhood that also offers free workouts and make most of their money by selling the shakes they make in the store, and the ingredients on the labels aren't terrible. It covers my current shortage of iron (which I should probably get checked out) and keeps me full. It also tastes freaking delicious. I have already been tracking my exercise and food intake here, I've lost 30lbs before discovering this place and I think the free classes are cool. However, I'm afriad that soon I may be obligated to buy something, though I am already addicted to the shakes and try and buy them when they are discounted (or like this morning, I was the only one to respond to the promo on FB and show up to do the workout, so one of the people distributing it paid for my shake!) as they sell them at 7 bucks a pop. I know I could make my own at home. Do all protein/weightloss powders have this bad rap? Or just Herbalife? I don't see anything sneaky in it, I know that it's a MLM thing, but it is a real product and I don't see anything wrong.
3rd party manufacturers will also use lower quality raw product. Much of it from China where there is no regulation.
So what are you paying the 7 bucks for? Well about $2 or so for it goes to manufacturing, and the other $5 gets divided up amongst the other "upline" who had nothing to do with you buying it.
Wouldn't it better to save that $5 towards making your own?
Incidently, no shake works without calorie deficit.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Yeah I know the shake wouldn't work without a calorie deficiet. I guess my question is, though these people are really nice, their place is small but open and comfortable, I am aware that they are there to sell something and they make no bones about it. If there is a kind of protein powder/meal replacement powder that is recommended by professionals, and not as expensive but still has the range of flavors. I'm game. Honestly, the lady who owns the place is super nice and I'd still like to support her efforts of trying to be her own boss. I think my only concern is that there are no qualifications needed upfront to be a "Trainer" and I haven't asked them about that.0 -
Unfortunately your patronage isn't going to benefit her much. The majority of the money made on you goes to the upline. The seller makes pennies. That's why their whole position is to recruit others under them to make money. Without recruiting, their income isn't much at all.ogmomma2012 wrote: »
Practically all MLM products are made by a 3rd party manufacturer with a "proprietary blend". These blends don't actual dosage amounts, so just "mentioning" that an ingredient in a product for many is enough for them to believe it's in the right dosage for it to be effective.ogmomma2012 wrote: »I'd like to know a little more about why Herbalife is thought to be a scam. There is a distributer in my neighborhood that also offers free workouts and make most of their money by selling the shakes they make in the store, and the ingredients on the labels aren't terrible. It covers my current shortage of iron (which I should probably get checked out) and keeps me full. It also tastes freaking delicious. I have already been tracking my exercise and food intake here, I've lost 30lbs before discovering this place and I think the free classes are cool. However, I'm afriad that soon I may be obligated to buy something, though I am already addicted to the shakes and try and buy them when they are discounted (or like this morning, I was the only one to respond to the promo on FB and show up to do the workout, so one of the people distributing it paid for my shake!) as they sell them at 7 bucks a pop. I know I could make my own at home. Do all protein/weightloss powders have this bad rap? Or just Herbalife? I don't see anything sneaky in it, I know that it's a MLM thing, but it is a real product and I don't see anything wrong.
3rd party manufacturers will also use lower quality raw product. Much of it from China where there is no regulation.
So what are you paying the 7 bucks for? Well about $2 or so for it goes to manufacturing, and the other $5 gets divided up amongst the other "upline" who had nothing to do with you buying it.
Wouldn't it better to save that $5 towards making your own?
Incidently, no shake works without calorie deficit.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Yeah I know the shake wouldn't work without a calorie deficiet. I guess my question is, though these people are really nice, their place is small but open and comfortable, I am aware that they are there to sell something and they make no bones about it. If there is a kind of protein powder/meal replacement powder that is recommended by professionals, and not as expensive but still has the range of flavors. I'm game. Honestly, the lady who owns the place is super nice and I'd still like to support her efforts of trying to be her own boss. I think my only concern is that there are no qualifications needed upfront to be a "Trainer" and I haven't asked them about that.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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I do understand now... but now I feel stuck... almost like I've obligated myself. She and her husband I guess are also nutrition coaches? DNA Mind-Body & Nutrition whatever is the name of the store, I did Google it and though it felt lacking it didn't seem shady. I figure I am over 100lbs over weight and could use all the help I can get, and so far all of the help has been free, they said they make their money primarily from meal planning and that meal plans do not have to include Herbalife. Would you have any suggestions for backing out when I'm eventually asked to purchase something? I have given my email and phone number, even friended her personally on FB. I don't want to seem like a mooch, taking all the free things and not wanting to really "commit".
Unfortunately your patronage isn't going to benefit her much. The majority of the money made on you goes to the upline. The seller makes pennies. That's why their whole position is to recruit others under them to make money. Without recruiting, their income isn't much at all.ogmomma2012 wrote: »
Practically all MLM products are made by a 3rd party manufacturer with a "proprietary blend". These blends don't actual dosage amounts, so just "mentioning" that an ingredient in a product for many is enough for them to believe it's in the right dosage for it to be effective.ogmomma2012 wrote: »I'd like to know a little more about why Herbalife is thought to be a scam. There is a distributer in my neighborhood that also offers free workouts and make most of their money by selling the shakes they make in the store, and the ingredients on the labels aren't terrible. It covers my current shortage of iron (which I should probably get checked out) and keeps me full. It also tastes freaking delicious. I have already been tracking my exercise and food intake here, I've lost 30lbs before discovering this place and I think the free classes are cool. However, I'm afriad that soon I may be obligated to buy something, though I am already addicted to the shakes and try and buy them when they are discounted (or like this morning, I was the only one to respond to the promo on FB and show up to do the workout, so one of the people distributing it paid for my shake!) as they sell them at 7 bucks a pop. I know I could make my own at home. Do all protein/weightloss powders have this bad rap? Or just Herbalife? I don't see anything sneaky in it, I know that it's a MLM thing, but it is a real product and I don't see anything wrong.
3rd party manufacturers will also use lower quality raw product. Much of it from China where there is no regulation.
So what are you paying the 7 bucks for? Well about $2 or so for it goes to manufacturing, and the other $5 gets divided up amongst the other "upline" who had nothing to do with you buying it.
Wouldn't it better to save that $5 towards making your own?
Incidently, no shake works without calorie deficit.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Yeah I know the shake wouldn't work without a calorie deficiet. I guess my question is, though these people are really nice, their place is small but open and comfortable, I am aware that they are there to sell something and they make no bones about it. If there is a kind of protein powder/meal replacement powder that is recommended by professionals, and not as expensive but still has the range of flavors. I'm game. Honestly, the lady who owns the place is super nice and I'd still like to support her efforts of trying to be her own boss. I think my only concern is that there are no qualifications needed upfront to be a "Trainer" and I haven't asked them about that.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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You're too nice. Just tell them you have decided that it isn't for you.0
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LiveLaughLoveEat1 wrote: »ogmomma2012 wrote: »
I do understand now... but now I feel stuck... almost like I've obligated myself. She and her husband I guess are also nutrition coaches? DNA Mind-Body & Nutrition whatever is the name of the store, I did Google it and though it felt lacking it didn't seem shady. I figure I am over 100lbs over weight and could use all the help I can get, and so far all of the help has been free, they said they make their money primarily from meal planning and that meal plans do not have to include Herbalife. Would you have any suggestions for backing out when I'm eventually asked to purchase something? I have given my email and phone number, even friended her personally on FB. I don't want to seem like a mooch, taking all the free things and not wanting to really "commit".
Unfortunately your patronage isn't going to benefit her much. The majority of the money made on you goes to the upline. The seller makes pennies. That's why their whole position is to recruit others under them to make money. Without recruiting, their income isn't much at all.ogmomma2012 wrote: »
Practically all MLM products are made by a 3rd party manufacturer with a "proprietary blend". These blends don't actual dosage amounts, so just "mentioning" that an ingredient in a product for many is enough for them to believe it's in the right dosage for it to be effective.ogmomma2012 wrote: »I'd like to know a little more about why Herbalife is thought to be a scam. There is a distributer in my neighborhood that also offers free workouts and make most of their money by selling the shakes they make in the store, and the ingredients on the labels aren't terrible. It covers my current shortage of iron (which I should probably get checked out) and keeps me full. It also tastes freaking delicious. I have already been tracking my exercise and food intake here, I've lost 30lbs before discovering this place and I think the free classes are cool. However, I'm afriad that soon I may be obligated to buy something, though I am already addicted to the shakes and try and buy them when they are discounted (or like this morning, I was the only one to respond to the promo on FB and show up to do the workout, so one of the people distributing it paid for my shake!) as they sell them at 7 bucks a pop. I know I could make my own at home. Do all protein/weightloss powders have this bad rap? Or just Herbalife? I don't see anything sneaky in it, I know that it's a MLM thing, but it is a real product and I don't see anything wrong.
3rd party manufacturers will also use lower quality raw product. Much of it from China where there is no regulation.
So what are you paying the 7 bucks for? Well about $2 or so for it goes to manufacturing, and the other $5 gets divided up amongst the other "upline" who had nothing to do with you buying it.
Wouldn't it better to save that $5 towards making your own?
Incidently, no shake works without calorie deficit.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Yeah I know the shake wouldn't work without a calorie deficiet. I guess my question is, though these people are really nice, their place is small but open and comfortable, I am aware that they are there to sell something and they make no bones about it. If there is a kind of protein powder/meal replacement powder that is recommended by professionals, and not as expensive but still has the range of flavors. I'm game. Honestly, the lady who owns the place is super nice and I'd still like to support her efforts of trying to be her own boss. I think my only concern is that there are no qualifications needed upfront to be a "Trainer" and I haven't asked them about that.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
You can do this without Herbalife. You've come to the right place and there are loads of people that can help you on this journey.
I know this is starting to sound like a bunch of excuses, but I really do like getting out and being around other people... and my 2yr old gets to come too. My first 30lbs have been pretty lonely, I do have a little more support than when I started, I don't know... I like the idea of a personal coach... blah. Yes, I'm too nice, but I guess it's also so that I feel like I'm involved in the real world instead of doing everything solo...0 -
ogmomma2012 wrote: »
I do understand now... but now I feel stuck... almost like I've obligated myself. She and her husband I guess are also nutrition coaches? DNA Mind-Body & Nutrition whatever is the name of the store, I did Google it and though it felt lacking it didn't seem shady. I figure I am over 100lbs over weight and could use all the help I can get, and so far all of the help has been free, they said they make their money primarily from meal planning and that meal plans do not have to include Herbalife. Would you have any suggestions for backing out when I'm eventually asked to purchase something? I have given my email and phone number, even friended her personally on FB. I don't want to seem like a mooch, taking all the free things and not wanting to really "commit".
Unfortunately your patronage isn't going to benefit her much. The majority of the money made on you goes to the upline. The seller makes pennies. That's why their whole position is to recruit others under them to make money. Without recruiting, their income isn't much at all.ogmomma2012 wrote: »
Practically all MLM products are made by a 3rd party manufacturer with a "proprietary blend". These blends don't actual dosage amounts, so just "mentioning" that an ingredient in a product for many is enough for them to believe it's in the right dosage for it to be effective.ogmomma2012 wrote: »I'd like to know a little more about why Herbalife is thought to be a scam. There is a distributer in my neighborhood that also offers free workouts and make most of their money by selling the shakes they make in the store, and the ingredients on the labels aren't terrible. It covers my current shortage of iron (which I should probably get checked out) and keeps me full. It also tastes freaking delicious. I have already been tracking my exercise and food intake here, I've lost 30lbs before discovering this place and I think the free classes are cool. However, I'm afriad that soon I may be obligated to buy something, though I am already addicted to the shakes and try and buy them when they are discounted (or like this morning, I was the only one to respond to the promo on FB and show up to do the workout, so one of the people distributing it paid for my shake!) as they sell them at 7 bucks a pop. I know I could make my own at home. Do all protein/weightloss powders have this bad rap? Or just Herbalife? I don't see anything sneaky in it, I know that it's a MLM thing, but it is a real product and I don't see anything wrong.
3rd party manufacturers will also use lower quality raw product. Much of it from China where there is no regulation.
So what are you paying the 7 bucks for? Well about $2 or so for it goes to manufacturing, and the other $5 gets divided up amongst the other "upline" who had nothing to do with you buying it.
Wouldn't it better to save that $5 towards making your own?
Incidently, no shake works without calorie deficit.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Yeah I know the shake wouldn't work without a calorie deficiet. I guess my question is, though these people are really nice, their place is small but open and comfortable, I am aware that they are there to sell something and they make no bones about it. If there is a kind of protein powder/meal replacement powder that is recommended by professionals, and not as expensive but still has the range of flavors. I'm game. Honestly, the lady who owns the place is super nice and I'd still like to support her efforts of trying to be her own boss. I think my only concern is that there are no qualifications needed upfront to be a "Trainer" and I haven't asked them about that.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Real friends don't sell this stuff to friends. The second you buy, you are a customer, and that's that. This stuff sells because it leverages relationships against the customer. You can say no to the d-bag working at GNC, but it's harder to say no to your friends/family.1 -
SonicDeathMonkey80 wrote: »ogmomma2012 wrote: »
I do understand now... but now I feel stuck... almost like I've obligated myself. She and her husband I guess are also nutrition coaches? DNA Mind-Body & Nutrition whatever is the name of the store, I did Google it and though it felt lacking it didn't seem shady. I figure I am over 100lbs over weight and could use all the help I can get, and so far all of the help has been free, they said they make their money primarily from meal planning and that meal plans do not have to include Herbalife. Would you have any suggestions for backing out when I'm eventually asked to purchase something? I have given my email and phone number, even friended her personally on FB. I don't want to seem like a mooch, taking all the free things and not wanting to really "commit".
Unfortunately your patronage isn't going to benefit her much. The majority of the money made on you goes to the upline. The seller makes pennies. That's why their whole position is to recruit others under them to make money. Without recruiting, their income isn't much at all.ogmomma2012 wrote: »
Practically all MLM products are made by a 3rd party manufacturer with a "proprietary blend". These blends don't actual dosage amounts, so just "mentioning" that an ingredient in a product for many is enough for them to believe it's in the right dosage for it to be effective.ogmomma2012 wrote: »I'd like to know a little more about why Herbalife is thought to be a scam. There is a distributer in my neighborhood that also offers free workouts and make most of their money by selling the shakes they make in the store, and the ingredients on the labels aren't terrible. It covers my current shortage of iron (which I should probably get checked out) and keeps me full. It also tastes freaking delicious. I have already been tracking my exercise and food intake here, I've lost 30lbs before discovering this place and I think the free classes are cool. However, I'm afriad that soon I may be obligated to buy something, though I am already addicted to the shakes and try and buy them when they are discounted (or like this morning, I was the only one to respond to the promo on FB and show up to do the workout, so one of the people distributing it paid for my shake!) as they sell them at 7 bucks a pop. I know I could make my own at home. Do all protein/weightloss powders have this bad rap? Or just Herbalife? I don't see anything sneaky in it, I know that it's a MLM thing, but it is a real product and I don't see anything wrong.
3rd party manufacturers will also use lower quality raw product. Much of it from China where there is no regulation.
So what are you paying the 7 bucks for? Well about $2 or so for it goes to manufacturing, and the other $5 gets divided up amongst the other "upline" who had nothing to do with you buying it.
Wouldn't it better to save that $5 towards making your own?
Incidently, no shake works without calorie deficit.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Yeah I know the shake wouldn't work without a calorie deficiet. I guess my question is, though these people are really nice, their place is small but open and comfortable, I am aware that they are there to sell something and they make no bones about it. If there is a kind of protein powder/meal replacement powder that is recommended by professionals, and not as expensive but still has the range of flavors. I'm game. Honestly, the lady who owns the place is super nice and I'd still like to support her efforts of trying to be her own boss. I think my only concern is that there are no qualifications needed upfront to be a "Trainer" and I haven't asked them about that.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Real friends don't sell this stuff to friends. The second you buy, you are a customer, and that's that. This stuff sells because it leverages relationships against the customer. You can say no to the d-bag working at GNC, but it's harder to say no to your friends/family.
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Real friends don't sell this stuff to friends. The second you buy, you are a customer, and that's that. This stuff sells because it leverages relationships against the customer. You can say no to the d-bag working at GNC, but it's harder to say no to your friends/family. [/quote]
So true...
Im new here. Well sadly i just bought my pack of herbalife because I was so tired listening to my friend promoting (nagging) me to buy from her. She knew I wanna lose some weight. So there she went and suddenly I'm now loaded with 3 shakes.. just because I just dont have heart to tell her no. *sigh* I do want to lose weight and healthier, but herbalife was never my intention...
But i get positive impact from this, herbalife brought me to MFP... when doing some google about herbalife, i got introduce to this site.
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Your commitment is to you and what you feel is best for you. Whether they feel offended by it or not, they don't earn your income for you. You do that on your own, so you should make the correct decisions on how to spend it. GOOD business people respect decisions that are in opposition of theirs.ogmomma2012 wrote: »
I do understand now... but now I feel stuck... almost like I've obligated myself. She and her husband I guess are also nutrition coaches? DNA Mind-Body & Nutrition whatever is the name of the store, I did Google it and though it felt lacking it didn't seem shady. I figure I am over 100lbs over weight and could use all the help I can get, and so far all of the help has been free, they said they make their money primarily from meal planning and that meal plans do not have to include Herbalife. Would you have any suggestions for backing out when I'm eventually asked to purchase something? I have given my email and phone number, even friended her personally on FB. I don't want to seem like a mooch, taking all the free things and not wanting to really "commit".
Unfortunately your patronage isn't going to benefit her much. The majority of the money made on you goes to the upline. The seller makes pennies. That's why their whole position is to recruit others under them to make money. Without recruiting, their income isn't much at all.ogmomma2012 wrote: »
Practically all MLM products are made by a 3rd party manufacturer with a "proprietary blend". These blends don't actual dosage amounts, so just "mentioning" that an ingredient in a product for many is enough for them to believe it's in the right dosage for it to be effective.ogmomma2012 wrote: »I'd like to know a little more about why Herbalife is thought to be a scam. There is a distributer in my neighborhood that also offers free workouts and make most of their money by selling the shakes they make in the store, and the ingredients on the labels aren't terrible. It covers my current shortage of iron (which I should probably get checked out) and keeps me full. It also tastes freaking delicious. I have already been tracking my exercise and food intake here, I've lost 30lbs before discovering this place and I think the free classes are cool. However, I'm afriad that soon I may be obligated to buy something, though I am already addicted to the shakes and try and buy them when they are discounted (or like this morning, I was the only one to respond to the promo on FB and show up to do the workout, so one of the people distributing it paid for my shake!) as they sell them at 7 bucks a pop. I know I could make my own at home. Do all protein/weightloss powders have this bad rap? Or just Herbalife? I don't see anything sneaky in it, I know that it's a MLM thing, but it is a real product and I don't see anything wrong.
3rd party manufacturers will also use lower quality raw product. Much of it from China where there is no regulation.
So what are you paying the 7 bucks for? Well about $2 or so for it goes to manufacturing, and the other $5 gets divided up amongst the other "upline" who had nothing to do with you buying it.
Wouldn't it better to save that $5 towards making your own?
Incidently, no shake works without calorie deficit.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Yeah I know the shake wouldn't work without a calorie deficiet. I guess my question is, though these people are really nice, their place is small but open and comfortable, I am aware that they are there to sell something and they make no bones about it. If there is a kind of protein powder/meal replacement powder that is recommended by professionals, and not as expensive but still has the range of flavors. I'm game. Honestly, the lady who owns the place is super nice and I'd still like to support her efforts of trying to be her own boss. I think my only concern is that there are no qualifications needed upfront to be a "Trainer" and I haven't asked them about that.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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I do understand now... but now I feel stuck... almost like I've obligated myself... I don't want to seem like a mooch, taking all the free things and not wanting to really "commit".
That's what they're counting on. It's a common sales technique.
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I don't want to seem like a mooch, taking all the free things and not wanting to really "commit".ogmomma2012 wrote: »
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This is the "scammy" part- they lure you in with free stuff then will play on your emotional involvement to get you to buy stuff you don't actually want to buy.
It's fine if you decide you want to spend $7 on a shake because you like and want that shake, but it's manipulative and shady if you do so because you feel guilted into it.
OP the scales are likely right, I had similar results the first couple of weeks (not on herbalife or anything, just regulating my caloric intake). My weight can vary anywhere within up to 6 lbs or so in a single day. Until you get some solid tracking and data collection on your personal experience you won't know how much is water or normal weight fluctuation or actual body mass.
Regardless the point is one can see equally similar results without purchasing any expensive supplement, and I wouldn't recommend that either for sustainable loss nor for keeping it off long-term.
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What happened to googling?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/dividendchannel/2014/11/07/new-52-week-low-could-prompt-more-insider-buying-at-herbalife/
From wikipedia
"Herbalife is a multi-level marketing (sometimes called MLM or network marketing) company. In addition to profits from product sales, Herbalife distributors can earn additional commissions from sales by other distributors they recruited, called their downline distributors. Supporters of MLM contend this is a fair compensation system, while critics contend that it is similar to a pyramid scheme.[61][62] Critics also argue that the company does not make enough effort to curb abuses by individual distributors, though Herbalife has consistently denied such allegations"
http://www.factsaboutherbalife.com/
OP: is that the kind of company you want to entrust your weight loss to?
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