Goodbye veganism....
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ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »I've been vegan for 8 months and just yesterday decided to give it up. I loved it for so long but for the past few weeks, meat and all other animal products have started to look extremely good. My body was craving other protein sources besides beans, soy, nuts, and carb-rich foods. It was a tough choice to make and it still feels "wrong" eating animals...but I'm so happy and feel so free. Anyone else make the switch back to being an omnivore? What was your reasoning?
Your body does not crave protein from other sources if you have a balanced diet. You feel it's wrong to eat animals but you decide to even though it's perfectly easy to get all nutrition from non animal sources. Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me. If your morally happy to eat meat (which you obviously are because you are now ) admit don't try and make woolly excuses about your body craving things as it's just nonsense.
Stand behind your decision if you believe its right don't make stupid excuses to try and justify them. Veganism is about compassion and non violence so if you've decided you don't agree with that that is your prerogative but please don't reinforce silly stereotypes about craving meat
What I don't get is why make a public forum post which is just about excuses? If you wish to eat animal products fine but it sounds like your trying to convince yourself its the right thing and get lots of other people to agree with you so you can feel better about it
You sound mad, bro. Are you mad?
I'm an omnivore and have never had the slightest wish to become a vegitarian or vegan, and I felt much the same way as zardoz.
If I were a vegan, I would be irritated at someone blaming their inability to stick to a way of eating on some craving that their "body" had! If someone wants meat that's fine and they should eat and enjoy (I do), but take ownership of your desires and choices, don't blame it on some "body need" that is out of your control.
Blaming this change on anything other than a choice to enjoy meat again is a slap in the face to those who do follow the vegan way of eating. It hints that this is somehow something that is wrong for the body (since the "body" is what was craving meat)
Op just take ownership of your choice and leave the excuses out of it.
There is no way to get DHA omega three through a plant based diet. And iron absorption is very different and very much decreased on a plant based diet. So yeah, it is possible for someone to not feel bodily "right."
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mangogirl272727 wrote: »ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »I've been vegan for 8 months and just yesterday decided to give it up. I loved it for so long but for the past few weeks, meat and all other animal products have started to look extremely good. My body was craving other protein sources besides beans, soy, nuts, and carb-rich foods. It was a tough choice to make and it still feels "wrong" eating animals...but I'm so happy and feel so free. Anyone else make the switch back to being an omnivore? What was your reasoning?
Your body does not crave protein from other sources if you have a balanced diet. You feel it's wrong to eat animals but you decide to even though it's perfectly easy to get all nutrition from non animal sources. Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me. If your morally happy to eat meat (which you obviously are because you are now ) admit don't try and make woolly excuses about your body craving things as it's just nonsense.
Stand behind your decision if you believe its right don't make stupid excuses to try and justify them. Veganism is about compassion and non violence so if you've decided you don't agree with that that is your prerogative but please don't reinforce silly stereotypes about craving meat
What I don't get is why make a public forum post which is just about excuses? If you wish to eat animal products fine but it sounds like your trying to convince yourself its the right thing and get lots of other people to agree with you so you can feel better about it
You sound mad, bro. Are you mad?
I'm an omnivore and have never had the slightest wish to become a vegitarian or vegan, and I felt much the same way as zardoz.
If I were a vegan, I would be irritated at someone blaming their inability to stick to a way of eating on some craving that their "body" had! If someone wants meat that's fine and they should eat and enjoy (I do), but take ownership of your desires and choices, don't blame it on some "body need" that is out of your control.
Blaming this change on anything other than a choice to enjoy meat again is a slap in the face to those who do follow the vegan way of eating. It hints that this is somehow something that is wrong for the body (since the "body" is what was craving meat)
Op just take ownership of your choice and leave the excuses out of it.
There is no way to get DHA omega three through a plant based diet. And iron absorption is very different and very much decreased on a plant based diet. So yeah, it is possible for someone to not feel bodily "right."
It wasn't "my body doesn't feel right" or "my blood tests came back with a deficiency"......
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Someone I know used to do daycare and she told a story about one of the little 3 year olds she cared for, whose family was spending a few months with someone she knew and she agreed to watch the child while the parents did some temporary work to get them back on their feet. That little girl would shovel in meat during their lunch meal, leaving the rest of the food on her plate. My friend mentioned this to her mother one day who was shocked and horrified because they were vegetarians and had never exposed their daughter to meat. Apparently she forgot to mention this to my friend so she just fed her like she did the other kids she watched.
Another thing I thought of while reading through this thread was a discussion I had with the surgeon after a colonoscopy last year. He was talking about the typical U.S. diet and the difference between it and the diet of people from his native country. He said colon cancer is unheard of there. I asked, among other things, the average age of death in his native country, and he said, "oh, they don't live all that old because they smoke cigarettes, but they don't get colon or stomach cancer." LOL
Its all relative I guess.0 -
Most experts attribute our higher colon cancer to meat. But then some countries where meat isn't used much have higher incidence of stomach cancer.
I always enjoy hearing about the new stuff they learn as it related to diet and disease. I don't really follow it closely like a hobby, but am interested when it comes up. Even when I didn't care WHAT I ate, it was interesting.
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I've been vegan for 8 months and just yesterday decided to give it up. I loved it for so long but for the past few weeks, meat and all other animal products have started to look extremely good. My body was craving other protein sources besides beans, soy, nuts, and carb-rich foods. It was a tough choice to make and it still feels "wrong" eating animals...but I'm so happy and feel so free. Anyone else make the switch back to being an omnivore? What was your reasoning?
Your body does not crave protein from other sources if you have a balanced diet. You feel it's wrong to eat animals but you decide to even though it's perfectly easy to get all nutrition from non animal sources. Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me. If your morally happy to eat meat (which you obviously are because you are now ) admit don't try and make woolly excuses about your body craving things as it's just nonsense.
Stand behind your decision if you believe its right don't make stupid excuses to try and justify them. Veganism is about compassion and non violence so if you've decided you don't agree with that that is your prerogative but please don't reinforce silly stereotypes about craving meat
What I don't get is why make a public forum post which is just about excuses? If you wish to eat animal products fine but it sounds like your trying to convince yourself its the right thing and get lots of other people to agree with you so you can feel better about it
The cravings could have absolutely just been in my mind, not a physical craving, but I'm not sure. It's weird to me though that 7 out of the 8 months I had absolutely no desire to eat animal foods and then one day about a month ago just looking at them made me drool. So craving, boredom, whatever it was.... got the best of me. I know that veganism doesn't have to be boring but I've been so busy with school I haven't had the time to experiment with new recipes so it was salads, some sort of bean dish, or some sort of tofu dish every night. Yeah, it's an excuse. And I made this post to see if there was anyone else out there feeling the same way I did on the vegan lifestyle, what they did about it, if they went back to eating meat, etc. I'm going to eat how I want to and I don't need justification, so that's not what the post was intended to be. On top of those reasons, I really don't see the harm in buying local dairy products. The animals are raised humanely on small farms and they aren't harming the environment so what's wrong with buying local, organic eggs/cheese? Nothing that I can see. I went vegan to end animal suffering/help the environment but I've come to realize that I don't necessarily need to be vegan for that, I just need to be conscious of where I buy animal products. And the more I thought about it, the more I got concerned about the large industries that my soy products are coming from. I'm sure they are bad for the environment as well.0 -
I made the switch a few years ago.I've been vegan for 8 months and just yesterday decided to give it up. I loved it for so long but for the past few weeks, meat and all other animal products have started to look extremely good. My body was craving other protein sources besides beans, soy, nuts, and carb-rich foods. It was a tough choice to make and it still feels "wrong" eating animals...but I'm so happy and feel so free. Anyone else make the switch back to being an omnivore? What was your reasoning?
I went Vegan, and the cravings became too much for me to bare. Also, I did not see any progress in my health or body composition. Of course, I was only a vegan for 30 seconds...
Haha, love the picture. To be honest I didn't feel much different healthwise either. The more carbs I ate (which was a lot being vegan) the more energy I had, but then I'd be hungry soon again. It was hard to stay in a certain calorie range without going over. Interestingly enough, I was actually thinner before I went vegan.0 -
I'm not vegan but I am a vegetarian. I have three children whom I cook meat for. I don't crave it at all...i think that it's a free world we live in and we can do as we please....we can even eat what we please soooo if you want to eat meat eat meat. That's your personal choice. Not sure if you need the acknowledgement or acceptance from others. There are plenty of protein sources other than meat for us to consume so if you want more protein without consuming meat it's readily available. If you want meat you just want meat!
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mbailey423 wrote: »I love how people can tell you how your body feels and what you do or don't crave.
Haha, right?! When I was vegan, I wouldn't have told another vegan that they're cravings for meat are just bogus..cravings are a real thing and there's often a reason for them (like lacking in a certain nutrient). But, it doesn't mean that my body necessarily needed meat, because cravings come from both physiological and emotional reasons. I found myself binge eating on vegan foods to try and satisfy that desire I had for meat and cheese but nothing helped and it just resulted in me gaining some weight. I wasn't happy, I was stressed about food on top of stress for school, and I didn't need to feel like that... it's all about finding that balance.0 -
Ah, so using some of the logic I confront, smoking cures colon cancer...lolSomeone I know used to do daycare and she told a story about one of the little 3 year olds she cared for, whose family was spending a few months with someone she knew and she agreed to watch the child while the parents did some temporary work to get them back on their feet. That little girl would shovel in meat during their lunch meal, leaving the rest of the food on her plate. My friend mentioned this to her mother one day who was shocked and horrified because they were vegetarians and had never exposed their daughter to meat. Apparently she forgot to mention this to my friend so she just fed her like she did the other kids she watched.
Another thing I thought of while reading through this thread was a discussion I had with the surgeon after a colonoscopy last year. He was talking about the typical U.S. diet and the difference between it and the diet of people from his native country. He said colon cancer is unheard of there. I asked, among other things, the average age of death in his native country, and he said, "oh, they don't live all that old because they smoke cigarettes, but they don't get colon or stomach cancer." LOL
Its all relative I guess.
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a lot of scientists believe it was veganism that caused the dinosaurs to go extinct a few thousand years ago.0
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I was vegetarian for almost 13 years growing up..against my parents wishes. I had never had any meat cravings what so ever but one day coming home after a long workout I sat down and ate the first thing I saw, which was a shepherds pie. Tasted amazing! but took a long time for my body to adjust. 9 years later I tried being vegetarian for health reasons, lost under 50lbs, but wasn't happy. Now here I am trying to find balance in an everyday diet.0
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ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »mangogirl272727 wrote: »ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »I've been vegan for 8 months and just yesterday decided to give it up. I loved it for so long but for the past few weeks, meat and all other animal products have started to look extremely good. My body was craving other protein sources besides beans, soy, nuts, and carb-rich foods. It was a tough choice to make and it still feels "wrong" eating animals...but I'm so happy and feel so free. Anyone else make the switch back to being an omnivore? What was your reasoning?
Your body does not crave protein from other sources if you have a balanced diet. You feel it's wrong to eat animals but you decide to even though it's perfectly easy to get all nutrition from non animal sources. Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me. If your morally happy to eat meat (which you obviously are because you are now ) admit don't try and make woolly excuses about your body craving things as it's just nonsense.
Stand behind your decision if you believe its right don't make stupid excuses to try and justify them. Veganism is about compassion and non violence so if you've decided you don't agree with that that is your prerogative but please don't reinforce silly stereotypes about craving meat
What I don't get is why make a public forum post which is just about excuses? If you wish to eat animal products fine but it sounds like your trying to convince yourself its the right thing and get lots of other people to agree with you so you can feel better about it
You sound mad, bro. Are you mad?
I'm an omnivore and have never had the slightest wish to become a vegitarian or vegan, and I felt much the same way as zardoz.
If I were a vegan, I would be irritated at someone blaming their inability to stick to a way of eating on some craving that their "body" had! If someone wants meat that's fine and they should eat and enjoy (I do), but take ownership of your desires and choices, don't blame it on some "body need" that is out of your control.
Blaming this change on anything other than a choice to enjoy meat again is a slap in the face to those who do follow the vegan way of eating. It hints that this is somehow something that is wrong for the body (since the "body" is what was craving meat)
Op just take ownership of your choice and leave the excuses out of it.
There is no way to get DHA omega three through a plant based diet. And iron absorption is very different and very much decreased on a plant based diet. So yeah, it is possible for someone to not feel bodily "right."
It wasn't "my body doesn't feel right" or "my blood tests came back with a deficiency"......
She said she craved meat. That right there, in and of itself can be a sign of iron deficiency. Not everyone who is a vegan or vegetarian will be or has a form of iron deficiency anemia, just like not all women who are pregnant will, either. I did. I had PICA. I craved ice so badly that I ate 100 Otter Pops in less than 24 hours. This was only 48 hours before I gave birth. It's a horrible feeling. I can't diagnose this young woman, or say this is the cause, but it is certainly a possibility, and one worth looking into. Regardless, her reasons for wanting to become an omnivore are her own. She's not asking anyone else to join her, nor is she condemning those who continue to live and enjoy a vegan lifestyle. She stated her reason for giving it up and feels happy with her decision.
huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/01/iron-deficiency-signs_n_5043342.html
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ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »mangogirl272727 wrote: »ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »I've been vegan for 8 months and just yesterday decided to give it up. I loved it for so long but for the past few weeks, meat and all other animal products have started to look extremely good. My body was craving other protein sources besides beans, soy, nuts, and carb-rich foods. It was a tough choice to make and it still feels "wrong" eating animals...but I'm so happy and feel so free. Anyone else make the switch back to being an omnivore? What was your reasoning?
Your body does not crave protein from other sources if you have a balanced diet. You feel it's wrong to eat animals but you decide to even though it's perfectly easy to get all nutrition from non animal sources. Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me. If your morally happy to eat meat (which you obviously are because you are now ) admit don't try and make woolly excuses about your body craving things as it's just nonsense.
Stand behind your decision if you believe its right don't make stupid excuses to try and justify them. Veganism is about compassion and non violence so if you've decided you don't agree with that that is your prerogative but please don't reinforce silly stereotypes about craving meat
What I don't get is why make a public forum post which is just about excuses? If you wish to eat animal products fine but it sounds like your trying to convince yourself its the right thing and get lots of other people to agree with you so you can feel better about it
You sound mad, bro. Are you mad?
I'm an omnivore and have never had the slightest wish to become a vegitarian or vegan, and I felt much the same way as zardoz.
If I were a vegan, I would be irritated at someone blaming their inability to stick to a way of eating on some craving that their "body" had! If someone wants meat that's fine and they should eat and enjoy (I do), but take ownership of your desires and choices, don't blame it on some "body need" that is out of your control.
Blaming this change on anything other than a choice to enjoy meat again is a slap in the face to those who do follow the vegan way of eating. It hints that this is somehow something that is wrong for the body (since the "body" is what was craving meat)
Op just take ownership of your choice and leave the excuses out of it.
There is no way to get DHA omega three through a plant based diet. And iron absorption is very different and very much decreased on a plant based diet. So yeah, it is possible for someone to not feel bodily "right."
It wasn't "my body doesn't feel right" or "my blood tests came back with a deficiency"......
She said she craved meat. That right there, in and of itself can be a sign of iron deficiency. Not everyone who is a vegan or vegetarian will be or has a form of iron deficiency anemia, just like not all women who are pregnant will, either. I did. I had PICA. I craved ice so badly that I ate 100 Otter Pops in less than 24 hours. This was only 48 hours before I gave birth. It's a horrible feeling. I can't diagnose this young woman, or say this is the cause, but it is certainly a possibility, and one worth looking into. Regardless, her reasons for wanting to become an omnivore are her own. She's not asking anyone else to join her, nor is she condemning those who continue to live and enjoy a vegan lifestyle. She stated her reason for giving it up and feels happy with her decision.
huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/01/iron-deficiency-signs_n_5043342.html
At no point has anyone in this little debate told the op they were wrong for eating meat. Just to own her decision to eat meat because she wants to, not because it is something her body can't live without.
The first response in this debate stipulates "if you have a balanced (vegetarian) diet" you don't need meat. Just because you may be iron deficient doesn't mean you have to get your iron from meat.
I have nothing against eating meat, I eat 8-16 oz of meat a day. What I found grating was a post, from in Reality a toddler vegan, that gave the implication being vegan was physically impossible because "the body craves meat".
The body craves adequate nutrients and a successful and experienced vegan is able to provide these nutrients while adhering to their beliefs. To imply that it is impossible is a slap in the face to these dedicated individuals.0 -
I made a similar decision. I've been vegetarian/vegan before but remember feeling SOO weak & tired. And yes, I *did* eat mostly whole plant sources, made sure to get enough protein etc. It just did not work for me. I am now the weight I was at my lowest as a vegan and feel ridiculously stronger & better & just more well.
It's absolutely NOT for everyone.0 -
Sometimes I crave salt...and I have low blood pressure, so I do wonder if there is some kind of a link there.
Cravings or no cravings, you shouldn't crave the approval of other people regarding your diet. Do what you want.0 -
my veganism and the eating disorder didn't get along very well, plus i was kind of half-assing it ("i'm vegan except for 35-calorie yogurt!"). now i'm a committed vegetarian, and am much happier eating cage-free eggs than not eating eggs at all. 0
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herrspoons wrote: »I've been vegan for 8 months and just yesterday decided to give it up. I loved it for so long but for the past few weeks, meat and all other animal products have started to look extremely good. My body was craving other protein sources besides beans, soy, nuts, and carb-rich foods. It was a tough choice to make and it still feels "wrong" eating animals...but I'm so happy and feel so free. Anyone else make the switch back to being an omnivore? What was your reasoning?
Your body does not crave protein from other sources if you have a balanced diet. You feel it's wrong to eat animals but you decide to even though it's perfectly easy to get all nutrition from non animal sources. Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me. If your morally happy to eat meat (which you obviously are because you are now ) admit don't try and make woolly excuses about your body craving things as it's just nonsense.
Stand behind your decision if you believe its right don't make stupid excuses to try and justify them. Veganism is about compassion and non violence so if you've decided you don't agree with that that is your prerogative but please don't reinforce silly stereotypes about craving meat
What I don't get is why make a public forum post which is just about excuses? If you wish to eat animal products fine but it sounds like your trying to convince yourself its the right thing and get lots of other people to agree with you so you can feel better about it
You sound mad, bro. Are you mad?
Indeedlioni neighbor - indeedlioni!
OP - welcome back - bacon feast on me tonight!!
Whoa, supah dirty! MFP late night.
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daffodilsoup wrote: »tfhawthorne wrote: »What turns me off most about the Vegan lifestyle is all the "Holier Than Thou" preaching that typically comes with it.
I don't think that's so much of a problem with "the vegan lifestyle" as "vegans who also happen to be a-holes".
First off, great pic.
Second, if a vegan does crossfit, what do they talk about first?0 -
I had the same experience several years ago after making an earnest go at being vegan. I was truly craving meats, eggs and dairy, well after those cravings had long gone away. Truth be told though, I went vegan for health reasons, not ethical ones, so going back to eating meat, dairy and eggs was not something I felt I had to beat myself up over.0
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I'm not a vegetarian, but eating less meat may not be a bad idea... Check out this article on "The Island Where People Forget to Die." Of course, a lot of the advice has to do with living a very low-stress lifestyle. So, it's hard to separate the benefits of the lifestyle from the diet. It looks like these islanders are really pesco pollo vegetarians, who eat mostly vegetarian accompanied by fish and chicken on occasion.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/secrets-from-the-island-where-people-forget-to-die-2014-10-31
Also see:
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/the-different-kinds-of-vegetarians.html
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/living-vegetarian-for-dummies-cheat-sheet.html
Interesting article on the Greek island. I have read a similar book called The Blue Zones.0 -
ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »mangogirl272727 wrote: »ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »I've been vegan for 8 months and just yesterday decided to give it up. I loved it for so long but for the past few weeks, meat and all other animal products have started to look extremely good. My body was craving other protein sources besides beans, soy, nuts, and carb-rich foods. It was a tough choice to make and it still feels "wrong" eating animals...but I'm so happy and feel so free. Anyone else make the switch back to being an omnivore? What was your reasoning?
Your body does not crave protein from other sources if you have a balanced diet. You feel it's wrong to eat animals but you decide to even though it's perfectly easy to get all nutrition from non animal sources. Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me. If your morally happy to eat meat (which you obviously are because you are now ) admit don't try and make woolly excuses about your body craving things as it's just nonsense.
Stand behind your decision if you believe its right don't make stupid excuses to try and justify them. Veganism is about compassion and non violence so if you've decided you don't agree with that that is your prerogative but please don't reinforce silly stereotypes about craving meat
What I don't get is why make a public forum post which is just about excuses? If you wish to eat animal products fine but it sounds like your trying to convince yourself its the right thing and get lots of other people to agree with you so you can feel better about it
You sound mad, bro. Are you mad?
I'm an omnivore and have never had the slightest wish to become a vegitarian or vegan, and I felt much the same way as zardoz.
If I were a vegan, I would be irritated at someone blaming their inability to stick to a way of eating on some craving that their "body" had! If someone wants meat that's fine and they should eat and enjoy (I do), but take ownership of your desires and choices, don't blame it on some "body need" that is out of your control.
Blaming this change on anything other than a choice to enjoy meat again is a slap in the face to those who do follow the vegan way of eating. It hints that this is somehow something that is wrong for the body (since the "body" is what was craving meat)
Op just take ownership of your choice and leave the excuses out of it.
There is no way to get DHA omega three through a plant based diet. And iron absorption is very different and very much decreased on a plant based diet. So yeah, it is possible for someone to not feel bodily "right."
It wasn't "my body doesn't feel right" or "my blood tests came back with a deficiency"......
She said she craved meat. That right there, in and of itself can be a sign of iron deficiency. Not everyone who is a vegan or vegetarian will be or has a form of iron deficiency anemia, just like not all women who are pregnant will, either. I did. I had PICA. I craved ice so badly that I ate 100 Otter Pops in less than 24 hours. This was only 48 hours before I gave birth. It's a horrible feeling. I can't diagnose this young woman, or say this is the cause, but it is certainly a possibility, and one worth looking into. Regardless, her reasons for wanting to become an omnivore are her own. She's not asking anyone else to join her, nor is she condemning those who continue to live and enjoy a vegan lifestyle. She stated her reason for giving it up and feels happy with her decision.
huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/01/iron-deficiency-signs_n_5043342.html
At no point has anyone in this little debate told the op they were wrong for eating meat. Just to own her decision to eat meat because she wants to, not because it is something her body can't live without.
The first response in this debate stipulates "if you have a balanced (vegetarian) diet" you don't need meat. Just because you may be iron deficient doesn't mean you have to get your iron from meat.
I have nothing against eating meat, I eat 8-16 oz of meat a day. What I found grating was a post, from in Reality a toddler vegan, that gave the implication being vegan was physically impossible because "the body craves meat".
The body craves adequate nutrients and a successful and experienced vegan is able to provide these nutrients while adhering to their beliefs. To imply that it is impossible is a slap in the face to these dedicated individuals.
The first person who replied was quite angry, implying that she needed to just "own" her decision, which, I'm pretty sure she was doing. She said meat was looking pretty good, and she felt her body was craving protein from other sources. None of us are living in her body, and we can't speak for how she feels.
Is she saying that every person that has these cravings needs meat to fulfill their cravings? No, this is her choice and what she believes is right for her. The first person was also implying in order to be a vegan that it was all about compassion and non-violence. Not every vegan is a vegan because they care about animal rights and animal welfare. There are some vegans who genuinely don't like the taste of meat or dairy products. They choose not to eat these foods because they simply don't like them. It doesn't have anything to do with morality. Then, there are people that this IS their life. They are dedicated to the respecting the dignity of all creatures, and this is far more than just the way they choose to eat.
I just went back and re-read the entire thread. At no point did anyone say "the body craves meat". So, unless there's been a post deleted, I'm missing something. I'm sorry to those who are faithful to this lifestyle, that put in the dedicated effort and never feel any sort of cravings for meat or otherwise that take offense to such. However, I cannot speak for another human being, as to what his or her individual cravings are. When I was suffering with PICA, had someone told me, "Oh, you aren't craving ice, or other non-food type crunchy/gritty things" I probably would've slugged them. I ate 100 Otter Pops in less than 24 hours. This was 48 hours before I gave birth. The ONLY reason my husband bought the Otter Pops for me, was because my aunt caught me gnawing on a block buffer (that you buff acrylic nails with). I wanted something gritty and crunchy. He left immediately to get me more Otter Pops.
We, as individuals know what our bodies need or are lacking. Sometimes, our cravings are signs/symptoms of something wrong within our bodies.
The OP feels fine with her decision, and has a plan to eat meat in a way she feels is ethical. Props to her.0 -
tfhawthorne wrote: »What turns me off most about the Vegan lifestyle is all the "Holier Than Thou" preaching that typically comes with it.
There is plenty "Holier than Thou" preaching that comes from carnivores, as well. Just an observation from this omnivore with a vegetarian leaning.
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daffodilsoup wrote: »tfhawthorne wrote: »What turns me off most about the Vegan lifestyle is all the "Holier Than Thou" preaching that typically comes with it.
I don't think that's so much of a problem with "the vegan lifestyle" as "vegans who also happen to be a-holes".
First off, great pic.
Second, if a vegan does crossfit, what do they talk about first?
Oh, @dbmata, are you bored today?0 -
daffodilsoup wrote: »tfhawthorne wrote: »What turns me off most about the Vegan lifestyle is all the "Holier Than Thou" preaching that typically comes with it.
I don't think that's so much of a problem with "the vegan lifestyle" as "vegans who also happen to be a-holes".
First off, great pic.
Second, if a vegan does crossfit, what do they talk about first?
Oh, @dbmata, are you bored today?
What, couldn't sleep last night.
Was actually reading a neat article last night about PED rates in CF by John Romano. Dude knows his PEDs.0 -
tfhawthorne wrote: »What turns me off most about the Vegan lifestyle is all the "Holier Than Thou" preaching that typically comes with it.
+1
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tfhawthorne wrote: »What turns me off most about the Vegan lifestyle is all the "Holier Than Thou" preaching that typically comes with it.
There is plenty "Holier than Thou" preaching that comes from carnivores, as well. Just an observation from this omnivore with a vegetarian leaning.
Really?? I don't see carnivores/omnivores coming into threads having to announce they are vegan. Why not just answer a question and move on, instead I see a lot of vegans/vegetarians having to make sure and insert in their answers that they are vegan when the post has absolutely nothing to do with that. I see it all the time.
No, I am not talking about this thread. This thread warrants a poster to clarify what diet they prefer.
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I've been vegan for 8 months and just yesterday decided to give it up. I loved it for so long but for the past few weeks, meat and all other animal products have started to look extremely good. My body was craving other protein sources besides beans, soy, nuts, and carb-rich foods. It was a tough choice to make and it still feels "wrong" eating animals...but I'm so happy and feel so free. Anyone else make the switch back to being an omnivore? What was your reasoning?
How was your protein intake before? Adequate? Like yesterday, 36 g of protein was from the pizza you ate.0 -
JeffseekingV wrote: »I've been vegan for 8 months and just yesterday decided to give it up. I loved it for so long but for the past few weeks, meat and all other animal products have started to look extremely good. My body was craving other protein sources besides beans, soy, nuts, and carb-rich foods. It was a tough choice to make and it still feels "wrong" eating animals...but I'm so happy and feel so free. Anyone else make the switch back to being an omnivore? What was your reasoning?
How was your protein intake before? Adequate? Like yesterday, 36 g of protein was from the pizza you ate.
My protein was good, I was getting about 47ish grams per day which is adequate for my needs. Yet, I've been getting a lot more the past few days of eating meat and I do feel better, as in much more satisfied.0 -
Just an anecdotal thing, but the people I know that have reformed from vegan/vegetarianism generally have had better skin afterwards. They actually started looking younger, facial skin wrinkles smoothed out. This is from young folks though, sub 30.0
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daffodilsoup wrote: »tfhawthorne wrote: »What turns me off most about the Vegan lifestyle is all the "Holier Than Thou" preaching that typically comes with it.
I don't think that's so much of a problem with "the vegan lifestyle" as "vegans who also happen to be a-holes".
First off, great pic.
Second, if a vegan does crossfit, what do they talk about first?
Oh, @dbmata, are you bored today?
What, couldn't sleep last night.
Was actually reading a neat article last night about PED rates in CF by John Romano. Dude knows his PEDs.
If you weren't so damn cool, I'd throw a barbell at you.0
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