I just registered for a marathon next month. Help

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  • glevinso
    glevinso Posts: 1,895 Member
    Are you religious? If not, you will be when you're 90% through the race.

    I recall telling the following story after my first marathon:

    Things were good until mile 20. Then I started hating life. By mile 22 I was thinking I might die. By 23 I was sure I was going to die. By 24 I was really hoping I would die so the pain would stop. At 25 I had forgotten my own name. Finally at 26 I perked back up and crossed the finish line.
  • IamOnMywayNow
    IamOnMywayNow Posts: 470 Member
    edited November 2014
    Are you religious? If not, you will be when you're 90% through the race.
    I LOLed so hard at this!! :)
  • glevinso
    glevinso Posts: 1,895 Member
    Another way I have put it is this: A half marathon is not "half of a marathon". The first half of the marathon is 20 miles long. The second half is 10k long.

  • aarar
    aarar Posts: 684 Member
    glevinso wrote: »
    Another way I have put it is this: A half marathon is not "half of a marathon". The first half of the marathon is 20 miles long. The second half is 10k long.

    Love this!
  • iheartinsanity
    iheartinsanity Posts: 205 Member
    As someone who "winged" it in 2011 for my first 26.2 (I trained in 28 days)...all I can say is amateur mistake. You should definitely give it more time. I only say this because it's almost 2015 and my body is STILL NOT the same it was back then. I have perma injuries even after PT and lots of time to recover. I minimize the flare ups of joint pain by cross training and doing a lot of walking, but seriously take it easy. If you miss a training run, then so be it.
  • wtgrey
    wtgrey Posts: 32 Member
    edited November 2014
    If you are running 40 miles per week, and can do a 20 miler three weeks before the race, then you probably are in the physical shape to run 26.2. I worked a program where I built up to that kind of mileage, and ran a marathon two weeks ago. I finished (running the whole race) in 04:32. Just remember to start slow and avoid the temptation to run fast at the beginning, or even for the first 20 miles. When you start the last 6.2, you will need your legs to be in good condition.

    On thing to keep in mind, is that 26.2 miles is a totally different distance than 20 miles, not from a purely physical standpoint (the ability of your legs and feet to handle the pounding, and your muscles to keep working. A marathon is more than just a run that happens to be 6.2 miles longer than a 20 miler. This is because of a natural human limitation of the ability to store enough energy to keep moving much farther than the 20 mile mark. When people "hit the wall" or "bonk" it is because they have depleted their glycogen stores (carbohydrate energy stores) and simply cannot power their muscles any longer. Their muscles may be capable of moving, and their legs and feet ok, but there is no sugar in the bloodstream to fuel the firing of the muscle cells.

    Avoiding glycogen depletion entails (1) long training runs (2) carb loading before the race to top off the glycogen, and (3) carb consumption during the race to provide an incremental sugar supply to the bloodstream. This allows your body to burn the sugar you are consuming, and not burn all of the glycogen prior to the 20 mile mark.

    Suggestions:

    (1) You are already handling this by building up to the mileage you are at, and the training runs you plan to do.

    (2) I would advise eating a VERY high carb diet for several days before the race. I ate about 5000-6000 calories per day in the days leading up to mine. Tons of orange juice, Gatorade, pasta, rice, cookies, graham crackers. Yummy. Some people advise only pasta, but your body doesn't care from a biological standpoint. It turns any sugar into glycogen.

    (3) I would suggest taking nine or more ~100 calorie glucose gel packs with you, and start eating one every two miles at about mile 6. I would also consume sports drink at every single hydration point in the race.

    If you can keep your glycogen stores from being totally wiped out at the end, then you have a good chance of finishing.
  • aarar
    aarar Posts: 684 Member
    nosajjao wrote: »
    _Waffle_ wrote: »
    What should I do?

    Ask for your money back. It takes a special snowflake kind of person to pay and register for physical trauma they aren't even training for.

    Or you know, she takes a chance and just goes for it, realizes she can do it and inspires herself to do it again and to train more next time. She'll never know if she doesn't try.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    aarar wrote: »
    nosajjao wrote: »
    _Waffle_ wrote: »
    What should I do?

    Ask for your money back. It takes a special snowflake kind of person to pay and register for physical trauma they aren't even training for.

    Or you know, she takes a chance and just goes for it, realizes she can do it and inspires herself to do it again and to train more next time. She'll never know if she doesn't try.

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  • _Waffle_
    _Waffle_ Posts: 13,049 Member
    The 18 mile run yesterday went well. I almost have the training to do half a marathon.
  • congruns
    congruns Posts: 127 Member
    Seems like you got this done and will do fine.

    If you can get a 40K in a couple of weeks before the marathon, do it.

    I ran in an organized open (you run whatever distance you want) fun run race last Saturday and wanted to do a 40K because my long run up to then was 21 miles. I lined up with the marathoners and conversing during the race, the #1 question I got was that since 40K is so close to marathon distance, why not just finish the marathon. My answer was that 40K was the next step in my training for my first marathon on Black Friday. And why deprive myself of 2 achievements and just skipping to straight to the marathon distance.

  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    _Waffle_ wrote: »
    I'm not even doing a marathon or half marathon training plan but I was talked into doing a marathon next month. What should I do? How do I get prepared?

    If you french fry, when you should pizza. You're going to have a bad day.

    Good luck. No advice, just well wishes.
  • bwogilvie
    bwogilvie Posts: 2,130 Member
    nosajjao wrote: »
    Ask for your money back. It takes a special snowflake kind of person to pay and register for physical trauma they aren't even training for.

    OP: based on your followup about your recent long run and your weekly mileage, noasjjao's reply isn't fair, but I can see where he's coming from. If you're going to ask for this kind of advice, it's helpful to include your current fitness level (in the case of running, weekly mileage, long run distance, maybe pace too).

    Good luck on the marathon!
  • TossaBeanBag
    TossaBeanBag Posts: 458 Member
    _Waffle_ wrote: »
    I'm not even doing a marathon or half marathon training plan but I was talked into doing a marathon next month. What should I do? How do I get prepared?

    If 16 is your furthest, I cannot stress going out really slow and maintaining that slow speed the whole way. My first marathon was the same way. I was doing 13.1 at 6.5 min/mile pace, so I thought I would keep an 8 minute mile, but by mile 17, I was dying. I kept jogging and never stopped, but my legs felt like they filled up with concrete. I should have started out maintaining 9 minute miles.

    Good luck.
  • Some_Watery_Tart
    Some_Watery_Tart Posts: 2,250 Member
    _Waffle_ wrote: »
    I'm not even doing a marathon or half marathon training plan but I was talked into doing a marathon next month. What should I do? How do I get prepared?

    First of all, sir, do you even like running?

    If so, you're all set. Drink lots of beer and don't forget to post photos of your sweaty self.
  • _Waffle_
    _Waffle_ Posts: 13,049 Member
    20 mile run is done. 3 hours, 15 minutes. Now that was a long time to be on your feet. It's all downhill from here until race day. As long as I can maintain a 10:00 pace the last 6.2 miles I won't be too far off of 4 hours for the full thing.
  • aarar
    aarar Posts: 684 Member
    _Waffle_ wrote: »
    20 mile run is done. 3 hours, 15 minutes. Now that was a long time to be on your feet. It's all downhill from here until race day. As long as I can maintain a 10:00 pace the last 6.2 miles I won't be too far off of 4 hours for the full thing.

    You've got this! Make sure to update after the race, I want to hear how you do!
  • _Waffle_
    _Waffle_ Posts: 13,049 Member
    Last 18 mile run finished. I walked the last couple miles. It was 74 degrees which doesn't translate to lots of fun. I hope we don't have this weather on race day. At any rate no more long stuff till race day. Probably just 12 next weekend which will feel so short.
  • jrline
    jrline Posts: 2,353 Member
    Do the run/walk pattern and you should do fine sounds like your body is used to putting in a lot of weekly miles. Have Fun

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  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
    26.2 is a distance that scares the crap out of me too but if you're doing 40+ miles a week you can build up your long runs over the next few weeks and, if necessary run/walk it.....your goal is to finish in a vertical position.
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
    DNF :)
  • _Waffle_
    _Waffle_ Posts: 13,049 Member
    Good news. It's going to be warm on race day and there's 100% chance of rain. Woo hoo!
  • Delilahhhhhh
    Delilahhhhhh Posts: 477 Member
    Best wishes Waffle. You can do this!!!!
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    Good luck!!! we want pictures!! and brutal updates!
  • _Waffle_
    _Waffle_ Posts: 13,049 Member
    _Waffle_ wrote: »
    Good news. It's going to be warm on race day and there's 100% chance of rain. Woo hoo!

    That was sarcasm by the way.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    I just registered for a marathon next month. Help

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  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    _Waffle_ wrote: »
    _Waffle_ wrote: »
    Good news. It's going to be warm on race day and there's 100% chance of rain. Woo hoo!

    That was sarcasm by the way.

    I was going to say, warm sucks.
  • hermann341
    hermann341 Posts: 443 Member
    _Waffle_ wrote: »
    Good news. It's going to be warm on race day and there's 100% chance of rain. Woo hoo!

    I hate getting wrinkled feet and the chafing you can get from running in the rain.

    Good luck on Sunday!

  • chunkytfg
    chunkytfg Posts: 339 Member
    You're doing 40 mile weeks with 16-18 mile long runs?

    Remind me again why you are worrying?

    Just don't run as fast and keep going. You're more than ready! in the 3 months post my ironman I didn't run more than 8 miles with not 1 week having a weekly total over 25 miles and I did a 6 hour endurance run with not much trouble managing a total of 30 miles in 5hr10mins.

    Completing a marathon is not the massive thing everyone makes it out to be. You can walk one in a little under 7 hours. Yes getting a good time is a lot harder and running a decent marathon imo is harder than an ironman but getting round is nothing special.

    You've more than got this and I expect to see a 'I smashed it' type comment from you once you've crossed that finish line
  • _Waffle_
    _Waffle_ Posts: 13,049 Member
    The weather was pretty wretched. It was about 62 degrees and 90% humidity at the race start. The temp ended up around 70. The first 12 miles had so many hills. It felt like you were either climbing or running down steep hills. We started getting downpours around mile 20. It was raining so hard I could barely see at times. The rain made it cooler but it sucked that it was raining so hard.

    My quads were trashed by mile 20 and I was walking quite a bit. A flat course on a cool day would have been different but I did the first half too quick with those hills. I still had a great experience. I did a lot of things very well and I can see a few areas I need to work on. Hydration, studying the course better, more hill work. In fairness I had an achilles issue that made me reluctant to do much with hills. I still think it was the right thing to do.

    Finished in 4:32 and I don't feel too terrible today at all. Just a bit stiff. Hamstrings are a little sore but mostly it's just the quads that are sore. Looking forward to the next one.
  • ThePoeToaster
    ThePoeToaster Posts: 1,681 Member
    edited December 2014
    I got nothing.
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