-TMI ALERT- Excruciating BMs

MyChocolateDiet

That does not sound pleasant at all. I thought I had problems with the PITA I've been dealing with but you are really going through something.

I'd honestly go to the Dr. if I were you. Seems like the kind of thing a quick fix ala dr. would be desirable for rather than "trying" the random ideas thrown out in a thread online. That seems time consuming and pain prolonging.

Except the coconut oil up the butt idea. That one sounds kind of cool. So far I like coconut oil in my hair and on my skin so it seems like it would be very soothing immediately.

The rectal stretching done surgically...not so much.

:flowerforyou:

MyChocolateDiet

__drmerc__ wrote: »

Don't dig it out with your finger it'll only get worse

I'm so glad you warned him about this. I'm sure it was just what he was about to try.

Alluminati

MyChocolateDiet wrote: »

__drmerc__ wrote: »

Don't dig it out with your finger it'll only get worse

I'm so glad you warned him about this. I'm sure it was just what he was about to try.

thanks for this visual, guys.

LeonCX

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NK1112

The little bleed might be a hemorrhoid bleed ... much more likely if it's a little bit and you are in pain with the movement. An anal fistula will have a lot more bleeding .. like drops of blood into the bowl. Some fistula's heal on their own, others require surgery (mine did)

You've heard it said already but it's worth repeating ...

Put that psyllium or Metamucil into a glass of water, drink that and then follow up with another glass of water. ... Try taking it after dinner instead of in the morning.

If you take a stool softener, don't do it for more than a week at a time ... or until you go. That also needs a lot of water.

Here's one my doctor told me ... Do not use dry paper toilet tissues as it will hurt the sore spot. It's better to use something like a baby wipe (toss it in the garbage and not down with the flush) ... Also very good to encourage healing is a sitz bath. You can purchase a kit at the drugstore It has a water bottle type thingy that you fill with hot water and use that to gently drizzle water to the affected area ... do this a couple of times a day until you heal up.

Good luck.

Sabine_Stroehm

Velum_cado wrote: »

So. Full disclosure. I recently battled an awful, awful anal fissure. I basically at as much fibre as I could - All Bran Original (has something like 3 times the fibre of Weetabix), nuts, raspberries, beans, wholewheat pasta, brown rice, wholewheat seeded bread, porridge with added oat bran, and I drank Fybogel twice a day. In addition, I cut way back on dairy and fatty foods, which can bind you up. Also, everytime I used the toilet, I put coconut oil on and just inside my o-ring. After about a week, it was pretty much healed, but I keep up this regime for another couple weeks to give it a good chance to heal up. Worked like a charm!

Here's where everyone is different. Added grains make it worse for me. Veg and increased fats make things more... Smooth. And I'm pretty sure fibrogel would back me up. Magnesium makes it all better.

cw106

lewispwest wrote: »

Foamroller wrote: »

This. OP, please google soluble and insoluble fiber. Read up on what YOU need. Trial and error FTW

Just read a good article which said that the Weetabix I have every morning is a great source of insoluble fibre (7.8g) which is good for preventing constipation so I will keep with that and change up the method in which I am taking in psyllium as per the other . go see a doc b4 internet voodoo makes you worse !

had fissure,roids andIBS all diagnosed and treated by docs over the years.

passing blood can be many things,no time at all to be second guessing.
Man up.

Liftng4Lis

I struggle with meeting fiber constantly! I have a column in my diary and at one point a lot of my friends added one so I could look at theirs. Quest protein bars have 20 g. of fiber. All this being said, it doesn't seem to make my business any better. Magnesium citrate helps a bit and I would definitely try the psyllium. Good luck on that end (pun intended).

shaun603

You need to goto the doctor. Don't listen to anybody here, please call your doctor. It could be serious.

Aemely

Yes, go see a doctor.

After you are feeling all fixed up and better, here is a table of fibers to help differentiate between potential "benefits" and a link to home remedies to stay happy...

Constipation Remedies
Compare Dietary Fibers

I would also like to say that there are a lot of nice people on here that are willing to share with personal advice. Kudos to those of you with serious helpful answers!

Here's hope you feel better soon.

MyChocolateDiet

OdesAngel wrote: »

MyChocolateDiet wrote: »

__drmerc__ wrote: »

Don't dig it out with your finger it'll only get worse

I'm so glad you warned him about this. I'm sure it was just what he was about to try.

thanks for this visual, guys.

ur welcome...i do what i can.

wmcmurray61

Whether you find temporary relief or not, I strongly suggest that you see your doc. ANY changes in bowel habits can be symptoms of a very serious condition. Not trying to scare you. In this situation it is MUCh better to be safe than sorry.

EricMurano

Any anal bleeding should mean a visit to the doctor. Bowel cancer is a killer.

The 'redder' the blood the closer to the *kitten* in the tract the bleeding is. Usually the doctors will worry more if the bleeding occurs further up the digestive tract.

My GP sent me to get a colonoscopy, which didn't find the issue with the bleeding but did identify an unrelated issue. When the bleeding happened again a few months later the GP sent me to an anal surgeon and he told me I spend too long on the toilet and that I need to sort out my dietry fibre.

Sure enough it only happens when I'm not regular and when I go 3+ times in a day (usually after a bag of prunes >_<)

But yes, SEE A DOCTOR! Bleeding from there is no joke!

nuvimi

Doctor. Go see a doctor.

PrizePopple

Having a GI disease I've had many poop talks with my doctor (he even showed DH the pictures of my colon, how kind of him). Fiber is your friend, and you should get lots of it. I take 4 tablespoons of psyllium husk every day because I don't get enough fiber usually. I've had the best poop of my life using that stuff.

Also, pushing too hard will cause you all sorts of hell, so don't do that either.

Foamroller

EricMurano wrote: »

Any anal bleeding should mean a visit to the doctor. Bowel cancer is a killer.

The 'redder' the blood the closer to the *kitten* in the tract the bleeding is. Usually the doctors will worry more if the bleeding occurs further up the digestive tract.

My GP sent me to get a colonoscopy, which didn't find the issue with the bleeding but did identify an unrelated issue. When the bleeding happened again a few months later the GP sent me to an anal surgeon and he told me I spend too long on the toilet and that I need to sort out my dietry fibre.

Sure enough it only happens when I'm not regular and when I go 3+ times in a day (usually after a bag of prunes >_<)

But yes, SEE A DOCTOR! Bleeding from there is no joke!

I asked a doctor once about the bleeding. She said if you're too constipated the stool becomes very dense, making it not only harder to pass but can also rupture tissue when forcing. If the blood is red and fresh looking, there was no need to worry albeit painful. If the blood was darker/blacker, she advised me to emergency room immediately.

Taking measures to soften and bulking up your stool will help you. Don't overdo it.

Go to doc, to calm down:)

rivka_m

+1 on seeing the doc. This sounds like it might be one of those things that the doc can diagnose immediately and help you with. And if not, further testing is definitely worth getting.

For me everything moving smoothly depends on fiber (especially beans) + water + fat. And the fat doesn't seem to count if it comes from cheese, which is REALLY unfair.

Quasita

If you have a history of hemorrhoids, it's quite possible that upping the fiber without increasing the water intake has re-aggravated the problem. They don't really go away so much as the swelling goes down, and straining/pushing can make them swell and bleed.

You *can* have too much fiber in the sense that if you don't drink enough water, you will get constipated because the BMs will be too bulky and firm. Step up both gradually and you'll have less issues.

Jennisin1

After my babies (esp my first), I had horrible fissures. Nothing the Dr gave me helped. I basically had to take Miralax for a couple of weeks so that I passed no solid stools which gave it a chance to heal. I suffered for 4 months before being able to actually sit without horrible discomfort.

ithrowconfetti

I eat Weet-bix daily too (I go through 10 biscuits for lunch). I've found that the thing which works for me is upping my fat intake, which on most days, is unintentionally low. It makes a whole lot of difference. Papayas and plain black coffee help too.

mitch16

The only time that I've experienced this myself was immediately after the birth of my son, and they gave me Colace to help move things along.

But--having had a toddler who pooped bricks regularly, I cannot undersell the power of prunes (natures candy!) or prune juice in being even more effective.

Kalikel

FYI - Colace isn't a laxative. It won't make you go. It just softens the poop so that when you do go (naturally), the poop is easier to pass.

Generic is as good as name brand, too.

Dayiscoming

Too much to read to be sure it wasn't mentioned, but just in case. Taking magnesium can help soften your bowel movements. I don't know about fissures, looks like the others got you covered there. I take at least 500mg of magnesium a day or I end up constipated even when I'm eating better. Probably lack of magnesium in my diet?

lewispwest

I've started on the stool softeners and changing my fibre/vegetables accordingly but I will take the advice most of you are giving and will see my doctor. I have an appointment on the 24th, that'll be a riot...

UtahWI

Foamroller wrote: »

EricMurano wrote: »

Any anal bleeding should mean a visit to the doctor. Bowel cancer is a killer.

The 'redder' the blood the closer to the *kitten* in the tract the bleeding is. Usually the doctors will worry more if the bleeding occurs further up the digestive tract.

My GP sent me to get a colonoscopy, which didn't find the issue with the bleeding but did identify an unrelated issue. When the bleeding happened again a few months later the GP sent me to an anal surgeon and he told me I spend too long on the toilet and that I need to sort out my dietry fibre.

Sure enough it only happens when I'm not regular and when I go 3+ times in a day (usually after a bag of prunes >_<)

But yes, SEE A DOCTOR! Bleeding from there is no joke!

I asked a doctor once about the bleeding. She said if you're too constipated the stool becomes very dense, making it not only harder to pass but can also rupture tissue when forcing. If the blood is red and fresh looking, there was no need to worry albeit painful. If the blood was darker/blacker, she advised me to emergency room immediately.

Taking measures to soften and bulking up your stool will help you. Don't overdo it.

Go to doc, to calm down:)

Yes and no. Yes to the source vs color...darker is generally from further up the GI tract, however, just because blood is bright and fresh does not mean there is no reason to worry. My GI bleeding was bright red, and it turned out to be the result of a stage 3 rectal tumor. Found on colonoscopy, but close enough to the outside world that my surgeon was able to touch it, and he has small hands, lol! Hence the bright red bleeding. ANY GI bleeding is cause for concern, hopefully OP can get this quickly and easily and painlessly sorted out!

SLLRunner

lewispwest wrote: »

I've started on the stool softeners and changing my fibre/vegetables accordingly but I will take the advice most of you are giving and will see my doctor. I have an appointment on the 24th, that'll be a riot...

So happy to hear you're going to the doctor. Good luck.

Zedeff

Kalikel wrote: »

Unless it's tested, there is no way to know if there is blood in the stool until it's tested. That's why doctors test poop.

Doctors can figure out all kinds of things, but they have to see you to do it.

If you don't want to go, don't go. It's your health! It probably is nothing and maybe you eat lots of fiber and take Colace and it gets all better.

But if it is something and you don't go, you'll be one of the ones who regrets it.

I know a guy who blew it off and spent three weeks in the hospital. Another blew it off, then called after he got some abdominal pain, but before his appointment, it progressed and he spent two months in the hospital, much of it on a ventilator.

That's why I suggest calling the doctor. Because there is no way in hell I could know what is wrong with you. Better to go in and find out it's nothing than just assume it and be wrong.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery!

Doctors don't test stool with visible blood in it for blood. It's wasteful and unnecessary - if you can see blood, then there's blood there.

The rest of your post is kind of unjustly anxiety-provoking though. You know a guy who blew "it" off - blew what off? And how was a 2 week ICU stay on a ventilator related to anal fissures?

I agree that OP should see a doctor. Bleeding can come from a variety of sources and 99% of the time it's completely benign, but in the 1% of cases timeliness of treatment has drastic implications on the outcomes and sooner is always better.

dbmata

Zedeff wrote: »

The rest of your post is kind of unjustly anxiety-provoking though. You know a guy who blew "it" off - blew what off? And how was a 2 week ICU stay on a ventilator related to anal fissures?

We call that FUD. It runs deep round these parts.

OP - try ZMA, the magnesium will aid, it also has some nice benefits if you're sustaining a good exercise load.

GauchoMark

ckmama wrote: »

Rectal Fissure can sometimes heal on their own, but i had to have mine "helped by a doctor" a few years ago. They even have a nitro glycerin type gel you put back there to help it heal. Take some sits baths after every BM if you can and use some hemorrhoid cream will help relieve some of the pain. Drink plenty of water. Sometimes if it is a bad enough Fissure you will have to get the rectum stretched, which is a day surgery. Good luck it is very painful.

I don't have anything useful to add, but that statement just about made me faint... although I think a saw a similar porno once!

Seriously, go see a doctor - don't rely on the internet for medical advice. The psyllium seed husks sound like a serious no-no, tho. From what I know about them they absorb a ton of water and swell. If overused without enough water that sounds like a disaster.

Beploveshomer

lkbrummett wrote: »

I had the same problem. I started taking a magnesium supplement and it has helped tremendously! It says its for the muscles and bones but I read somewhere it helped with this problem and it most certainly did!

I was looking for this before I commented. Fiber supplements did nothing for me.
MAGNESIUM will cure this problem!
The capsules helped but not as much as the powder you mix into water, you can find it at health food stores. Mine is called Natural Calm magnesium supplement. I had hard stools for most of my adult life. ONE DAY after taking 2 doses of the stuff and the problem is gone and has been for 2 years. Try it!