Carb addicts?
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tennisdude2004 wrote: »do you have the same problem with vegetables..? Because you know, carbs...
Yeah, i get going on munching broccoli, I say to myself - just one floret, two at the most and before I know it I've eaten like 1800 cals of broccoli!
But then again i suppose veg has valuable micro nutrients, where bread and pasta don't!
Because you know, micro nutrients.....
I think I could binge on a soft veggie like steamed peas. Is that too starchy to count as a vegetable? Something you can shovel in (that sounds so gross, but yeah). I don't have a particular issue with carbs except they can raise my blood sugar (I just got diagnosed with diabetes)0 -
tennisdude2004 wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »do you have the same problem with vegetables..? Because you know, carbs...
Yeah, i get going on munching broccoli, I say to myself - just one floret, two at the most and before I know it I've eaten like 1800 cals of broccoli!
But then again i suppose veg has valuable micro nutrients, where bread and pasta don't!
Because you know, micro nutrients.....
Selenium, zinc, copper, manganese, thiamine, niacin, potassium, B6, etc. Yep, no micronutrients there.
For the calories they cost - I'm not that impressed!
But then bread, rice, past = junk food.
Don't get me wrong I like bread, pasta and rice - They just (for me) don't get same micro nutrient to calorie 'vegetable statues'
Yet they are consumed in abundance by the longest living and healthiest populations in the world.0 -
Most populations historically have reason to eat foods that largely serve to make sure that we get enough calories. We (in the modern post industrial world, especially the US where many people drive everywhere) are mostly weird because we have tons of food available and a largely sedentary population.
People who aren't sedentary probably do well, on average, including some of the foods that serve mostly to provide energy, although we have the luxury not to have to given all else that is available, I suppose, if we don't want to. Doesn't make us healthier, though.0 -
tennisdude2004 wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »do you have the same problem with vegetables..? Because you know, carbs...
Yeah, i get going on munching broccoli, I say to myself - just one floret, two at the most and before I know it I've eaten like 1800 cals of broccoli!
But then again i suppose veg has valuable micro nutrients, where bread and pasta don't!
Because you know, micro nutrients.....
Selenium, zinc, copper, manganese, thiamine, niacin, potassium, B6, etc. Yep, no micronutrients there.
For the calories they cost - I'm not that impressed!
But then bread, rice, past = junk food.
Don't get me wrong I like bread, pasta and rice - They just (for me) don't get same micro nutrient to calorie 'vegetable statues'
But we only need so many micronutrients and some are harmful if you get too much. Calories are also important as are macronutrients. Judging food as 'junk' based solely on micronutrient to calorie ratio doesn't make much sense to me.0 -
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus Augustus
The armies ran on bread (wheat) not gruel (oats). The emperors lived and died on the grain trade.0 -
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus Augustus
The armies ran on bread (wheat) not gruel (oats). The emperors lived and died on the grain trade.
ok... Good for them.
Most civilizations had what their environment gave them to sustain them. And that depended on geography and the level of advancement of civilization.
I fail to see what this has to do with the thread. But knowledge of history isn't usually knowledge wasted, so whatever.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »do you have the same problem with vegetables..? Because you know, carbs...
Yeah, i get going on munching broccoli, I say to myself - just one floret, two at the most and before I know it I've eaten like 1800 cals of broccoli!
But then again i suppose veg has valuable micro nutrients, where bread and pasta don't!
Because you know, micro nutrients.....
Selenium, zinc, copper, manganese, thiamine, niacin, potassium, B6, etc. Yep, no micronutrients there.
For the calories they cost - I'm not that impressed!
But then bread, rice, past = junk food.
Don't get me wrong I like bread, pasta and rice - They just (for me) don't get same micro nutrient to calorie 'vegetable statues'
But we only need so many micronutrients and some are harmful if you get too much. Calories are also important as are macronutrients. Judging food as 'junk' based solely on micronutrient to calorie ratio doesn't make much sense to me.
Not sure why it doesn't make much sense!
It's important to get sufficient micro nutrients, if you ate all of your carb calories from just chocolate (for argument sake) it's likely you won't hit your micro nutrient target.
Therefore whats wrong with defining food into groups. I'm not saying Junk food is unhealthy because in moderation junk isn't unhealthy - but its not particularly healthy either.
Also society came up with the term junk, not me. I just happen to like using it though!
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tennisdude2004 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »do you have the same problem with vegetables..? Because you know, carbs...
Yeah, i get going on munching broccoli, I say to myself - just one floret, two at the most and before I know it I've eaten like 1800 cals of broccoli!
But then again i suppose veg has valuable micro nutrients, where bread and pasta don't!
Because you know, micro nutrients.....
Selenium, zinc, copper, manganese, thiamine, niacin, potassium, B6, etc. Yep, no micronutrients there.
For the calories they cost - I'm not that impressed!
But then bread, rice, past = junk food.
Don't get me wrong I like bread, pasta and rice - They just (for me) don't get same micro nutrient to calorie 'vegetable statues'
But we only need so many micronutrients and some are harmful if you get too much. Calories are also important as are macronutrients. Judging food as 'junk' based solely on micronutrient to calorie ratio doesn't make much sense to me.
Not sure why it doesn't make much sense!
It's important to get sufficient micro nutrients, if you ate all of your carb calories from just chocolate (for argument sake) it's likely you won't hit your micro nutrient target.
Therefore whats wrong with defining food into groups. I'm not saying Junk food is unhealthy because in moderation junk isn't unhealthy - but its not particularly healthy either.
Also society came up with the term junk, not me. I just happen to like using it though!
But if you ate all of your carb calories in broccoli (a food conventionally considered healthy) wouldn't you also be missing out on important micro nutrients? Does that make broccoli junk or is there some other quantifier involved?
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diannethegeek wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »do you have the same problem with vegetables..? Because you know, carbs...
Yeah, i get going on munching broccoli, I say to myself - just one floret, two at the most and before I know it I've eaten like 1800 cals of broccoli!
But then again i suppose veg has valuable micro nutrients, where bread and pasta don't!
Because you know, micro nutrients.....
Selenium, zinc, copper, manganese, thiamine, niacin, potassium, B6, etc. Yep, no micronutrients there.
For the calories they cost - I'm not that impressed!
But then bread, rice, past = junk food.
Don't get me wrong I like bread, pasta and rice - They just (for me) don't get same micro nutrient to calorie 'vegetable statues'
But we only need so many micronutrients and some are harmful if you get too much. Calories are also important as are macronutrients. Judging food as 'junk' based solely on micronutrient to calorie ratio doesn't make much sense to me.
Not sure why it doesn't make much sense!
It's important to get sufficient micro nutrients, if you ate all of your carb calories from just chocolate (for argument sake) it's likely you won't hit your micro nutrient target.
Therefore whats wrong with defining food into groups. I'm not saying Junk food is unhealthy because in moderation junk isn't unhealthy - but its not particularly healthy either.
Also society came up with the term junk, not me. I just happen to like using it though!
But if you ate all of your carb calories in broccoli (a food conventionally considered healthy) wouldn't you also be missing out on important micro nutrients? Does that make broccoli junk or is there some other quantifier involved?
That's a good point, maybe into the equation we should add satiety! I'm pretty sure I would have had my fill of broccoli before I reached my calorie target. The same couldn't be said for chocolate or pasta or bread!
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The only thing that has helped me was drastically reducing the amount of sweet/sugary foods in my diet, including products with added sugar. In other words, a diet high in fiber from fresh fruits/vegetables/legumes, moderate amounts of diary/meats/fats, but very low added sugars (ie. white bread with added sugar, candies, pastries, donuts, etc.). I cook for myself a lot too and eat off of a small size plate with regular raw fruits and fruit smoothies as snacks in between or for dessert. Eat this way for at least a month and your cravings will go away. Food becomes less of an obsession in my mind too. Now I just eat what I like whenever I want but since I don't crave the sweet added sugary stuff anymore, I don't really buy it or eat it very much either. But when I do have some, I opt for a small slice or piece and am fully content with it!0
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oh mee to i am addicted to carbs
sweets, cake 
I don't know how to replace them it is in our meals all ones!0 -
I do keto. Zero carb cravings.0
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KaroshiQueen wrote: »I do keto. Zero carb cravings.
I second that!
But I do have cravings...for bacon.
I know you didn't see that coming.
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