2500 calories - how?
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ForecasterJason wrote: »I can understand your struggles. The bulk of my diet is made up of whole wheat foods, potatoes, fruit, cheese, yogurt, nuts, along with some foods that are not so healthy. For me, I think it's the fiber content of my diet that makes it hard sometimes for me to reach my calorie goal for slow bulking. But at the same time, given that I'm already eating some empty calories regularly, I don't want to significantly reduce the overall quality of my diet. But I have to admit that it is really easy to get in additional calories by eating cookies, cakes, and chips.
define "empty calories" ..do they not count or something???0 -
By "empty", I mean foods that provide little nutritional benefits (other than simply calories).ForecasterJason wrote: »I can understand your struggles. The bulk of my diet is made up of whole wheat foods, potatoes, fruit, cheese, yogurt, nuts, along with some foods that are not so healthy. For me, I think it's the fiber content of my diet that makes it hard sometimes for me to reach my calorie goal for slow bulking. But at the same time, given that I'm already eating some empty calories regularly, I don't want to significantly reduce the overall quality of my diet. But I have to admit that it is really easy to get in additional calories by eating cookies, cakes, and chips.
define "empty calories" ..do they not count or something???
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I wish I had that problem sometimes - I find it quite easy to maul through prodigious amounts of food when I really want to. v___v0
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Perhaps empty is not the best word. But I'm referring to foods such as cookies, cake, pie. Obviously those foods can be high in carbs and fat, but they have little micronutrients.
Such as what specifically?ForecasterJason wrote: »
By "empty", I mean foods that provide little nutritional benefits (other than simply calories).ForecasterJason wrote: »I can understand your struggles. The bulk of my diet is made up of whole wheat foods, potatoes, fruit, cheese, yogurt, nuts, along with some foods that are not so healthy. For me, I think it's the fiber content of my diet that makes it hard sometimes for me to reach my calorie goal for slow bulking. But at the same time, given that I'm already eating some empty calories regularly, I don't want to significantly reduce the overall quality of my diet. But I have to admit that it is really easy to get in additional calories by eating cookies, cakes, and chips.
define "empty calories" ..do they not count or something???
Do the carbs and fat in the foods count for anything?
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ForecasterJason wrote: »
By "empty", I mean foods that provide little nutritional benefits (other than simply calories).ForecasterJason wrote: »I can understand your struggles. The bulk of my diet is made up of whole wheat foods, potatoes, fruit, cheese, yogurt, nuts, along with some foods that are not so healthy. For me, I think it's the fiber content of my diet that makes it hard sometimes for me to reach my calorie goal for slow bulking. But at the same time, given that I'm already eating some empty calories regularly, I don't want to significantly reduce the overall quality of my diet. But I have to admit that it is really easy to get in additional calories by eating cookies, cakes, and chips.
define "empty calories" ..do they not count or something???
But, if the issue is not consuming enough cals, not nutrient deficiencies, what is the problem with "empty cals"?0 -
As long as one is at least getting in some nutritious food, I don't see any problem with eating some junk food while bulking.ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »
By "empty", I mean foods that provide little nutritional benefits (other than simply calories).ForecasterJason wrote: »I can understand your struggles. The bulk of my diet is made up of whole wheat foods, potatoes, fruit, cheese, yogurt, nuts, along with some foods that are not so healthy. For me, I think it's the fiber content of my diet that makes it hard sometimes for me to reach my calorie goal for slow bulking. But at the same time, given that I'm already eating some empty calories regularly, I don't want to significantly reduce the overall quality of my diet. But I have to admit that it is really easy to get in additional calories by eating cookies, cakes, and chips.
define "empty calories" ..do they not count or something???
But, if the issue is not consuming enough cals, not nutrient deficiencies, what is the problem with "empty cals"?0 -
vladatwork wrote: »The day's almost over, I'm 1400 calories behind and if I so much as see another egg I'll barf.
How do you pack in so many calories daily?
So many? 2000 is cutting it down for me and is so difficult. I might be able to not be starving if I could get 2500. Maybe try some milk, or some juice. Not bad for you, and high in calories.
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ForecasterJason wrote: »
As long as one is at least getting in some nutritious food, I don't see any problem with eating some junk food while bulking.ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »
By "empty", I mean foods that provide little nutritional benefits (other than simply calories).ForecasterJason wrote: »I can understand your struggles. The bulk of my diet is made up of whole wheat foods, potatoes, fruit, cheese, yogurt, nuts, along with some foods that are not so healthy. For me, I think it's the fiber content of my diet that makes it hard sometimes for me to reach my calorie goal for slow bulking. But at the same time, given that I'm already eating some empty calories regularly, I don't want to significantly reduce the overall quality of my diet. But I have to admit that it is really easy to get in additional calories by eating cookies, cakes, and chips.
define "empty calories" ..do they not count or something???
But, if the issue is not consuming enough cals, not nutrient deficiencies, what is the problem with "empty cals"?
So why are you having a hard time reaching your slow bulking cals? Did I miss something?0 -
Drinking calories is a very good solution. Juices can be pretty high calorie, and smoothies with whole bananas and nut butter along with some protein powder can be very nutritious and calorie dense. Drink milk between meals, and try drinking cups of non-chunky soups, like tomato or butternut squash or anything smooth/creamy, with your meals instead of water, tea or soda.
Also, try some nut/seed butters other than peanut. Almond contains a lot of good fats, sesame tahini is a little higher in calories, and sunflower seed butter is amazing. They all have a distinct flavor profile...put some on bread with a little honey and cinnamon for extra taste and calories.
Adding cheese and/or olive oil to everything that pairs well with it is also a good calorie booster.0 -
A lot of the healthy foods I eat (like whole grains, dairy, nuts) are either high fiber or high fat, which are pretty satiating. Also, my digestive system is a bit more sensitive than normal, and I can't drink much milk and probably can't do regular protein shakes (though I do eat cheese and yogurt). I don't really need fruit juice with the fruit I'm eating. Some days I do reach my target though.ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »
As long as one is at least getting in some nutritious food, I don't see any problem with eating some junk food while bulking.ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »
By "empty", I mean foods that provide little nutritional benefits (other than simply calories).ForecasterJason wrote: »I can understand your struggles. The bulk of my diet is made up of whole wheat foods, potatoes, fruit, cheese, yogurt, nuts, along with some foods that are not so healthy. For me, I think it's the fiber content of my diet that makes it hard sometimes for me to reach my calorie goal for slow bulking. But at the same time, given that I'm already eating some empty calories regularly, I don't want to significantly reduce the overall quality of my diet. But I have to admit that it is really easy to get in additional calories by eating cookies, cakes, and chips.
define "empty calories" ..do they not count or something???
But, if the issue is not consuming enough cals, not nutrient deficiencies, what is the problem with "empty cals"?
So why are you having a hard time reaching your slow bulking cals? Did I miss something?0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »
A lot of the healthy foods I eat (like whole grains, dairy, nuts) are either high fiber or high fat, which are pretty satiating. Also, my digestive system is a bit more sensitive than normal, and I can't drink much milk and probably can't do regular protein shakes (though I do eat cheese and yogurt). I don't really need fruit juice with the fruit I'm eating.ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »
As long as one is at least getting in some nutritious food, I don't see any problem with eating some junk food while bulking.ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »
By "empty", I mean foods that provide little nutritional benefits (other than simply calories).ForecasterJason wrote: »I can understand your struggles. The bulk of my diet is made up of whole wheat foods, potatoes, fruit, cheese, yogurt, nuts, along with some foods that are not so healthy. For me, I think it's the fiber content of my diet that makes it hard sometimes for me to reach my calorie goal for slow bulking. But at the same time, given that I'm already eating some empty calories regularly, I don't want to significantly reduce the overall quality of my diet. But I have to admit that it is really easy to get in additional calories by eating cookies, cakes, and chips.
define "empty calories" ..do they not count or something???
But, if the issue is not consuming enough cals, not nutrient deficiencies, what is the problem with "empty cals"?
So why are you having a hard time reaching your slow bulking cals? Did I miss something?
So how much extra do you need in a day? You don't need the nutrients of the fruit juice, but if it is the most comfortable way for you to hit your cal needs, why avoid them?0 -
I've bounced around with the rate at which I want to bulk, but right now I'm looking to do one pound a month, which I believe should be around a 125 calorie surplus. Most days now I'm eating at least that amount if not more than I was before I started training. But even though my workout volume is not that high, it seems as if my maintenance calories shot up by more than that. So, I'm having some difficulty just trying to figure out what my maintenance really is (whether it's closer to 2125, 2150, 2175, or 2200).ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »
A lot of the healthy foods I eat (like whole grains, dairy, nuts) are either high fiber or high fat, which are pretty satiating. Also, my digestive system is a bit more sensitive than normal, and I can't drink much milk and probably can't do regular protein shakes (though I do eat cheese and yogurt). I don't really need fruit juice with the fruit I'm eating.ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »
As long as one is at least getting in some nutritious food, I don't see any problem with eating some junk food while bulking.ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »
By "empty", I mean foods that provide little nutritional benefits (other than simply calories).ForecasterJason wrote: »I can understand your struggles. The bulk of my diet is made up of whole wheat foods, potatoes, fruit, cheese, yogurt, nuts, along with some foods that are not so healthy. For me, I think it's the fiber content of my diet that makes it hard sometimes for me to reach my calorie goal for slow bulking. But at the same time, given that I'm already eating some empty calories regularly, I don't want to significantly reduce the overall quality of my diet. But I have to admit that it is really easy to get in additional calories by eating cookies, cakes, and chips.
define "empty calories" ..do they not count or something???
But, if the issue is not consuming enough cals, not nutrient deficiencies, what is the problem with "empty cals"?
So why are you having a hard time reaching your slow bulking cals? Did I miss something?
So how much extra do you need in a day? You don't need the nutrients of the fruit juice, but if it is the most comfortable way for you to hit your cal needs, why avoid them?
As for the fruit juice, I think my digestive tract is already running along very fast, so I don't really want to add additional fiber or anything that would make me more "regular".
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ForecasterJason wrote: »
A lot of the healthy foods I eat (like whole grains, dairy, nuts) are either high fiber or high fat, which are pretty satiating. Also, my digestive system is a bit more sensitive than normal, and I can't drink much milk and probably can't do regular protein shakes (though I do eat cheese and yogurt). I don't really need fruit juice with the fruit I'm eating. Some days I do reach my target though.ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »
As long as one is at least getting in some nutritious food, I don't see any problem with eating some junk food while bulking.ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »
By "empty", I mean foods that provide little nutritional benefits (other than simply calories).ForecasterJason wrote: »I can understand your struggles. The bulk of my diet is made up of whole wheat foods, potatoes, fruit, cheese, yogurt, nuts, along with some foods that are not so healthy. For me, I think it's the fiber content of my diet that makes it hard sometimes for me to reach my calorie goal for slow bulking. But at the same time, given that I'm already eating some empty calories regularly, I don't want to significantly reduce the overall quality of my diet. But I have to admit that it is really easy to get in additional calories by eating cookies, cakes, and chips.
define "empty calories" ..do they not count or something???
But, if the issue is not consuming enough cals, not nutrient deficiencies, what is the problem with "empty cals"?
So why are you having a hard time reaching your slow bulking cals? Did I miss something?
You don't have to use milk for protein shakes. Almond, rice, soy or hemp milk works just as well. Also, water, although that isn't as tasty.
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I had 2500 for after dinner dinner last night. HTFU0
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chrisdavey wrote: »I had 2500 for after dinner dinner last night. HTFU
I'm sure that the OP finds comments like this to be very helpful and motivating! Thank you for your contribution!
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Ate over 2400 calories today, that's eating at Planet Hollywood in Downtown Disney and Disney Quest.
ETA: Today's rest day.
Just eat higher calorie foods, like: peanutbutter, nuts, glass of milk, ice cream and ice cream.0 -
SnuggleSmacks wrote: »chrisdavey wrote: »I had 2500 for after dinner dinner last night. HTFU
I'm sure that the OP finds comments like this to be very helpful and motivating! Thank you for your contribution!
No probs. Have a good day
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