calorie isn't a calorie ?
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A calorie is a calorie just as a gallon of gas is a gallon of gas
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FunkyTobias wrote: »ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »
Looking at your post history you are clearly confused. You need to get your money back from that book and buy a Biochemistry or Medical Physiology textbook you might actually learn somethingGaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »muffinsandcakes wrote: »extremelygrumpycat wrote: »Eat what you want. Eat at a deficit. Enjoy food and enjoy life.
Honestly. I eat healthy most meals, but sometimes I want a snack or treat and I eat it without guilt. It fits into my daily calorie goal and that's that.
If you want cake, eat cake. If you want a carrot, eat a carrot. End of story. You will see results if you eat at a deficit.
thanks
muffinsandcakes this site raised the same questions in my mind. After reading The Calorie Myth by JB this week I got a better understanding. Not sure I agree with him on all points but I do appreciate his 12 years of researching scientific studies on dieting. I did not know about the role of hormones to lose weight and keep it off for the next forty years. There are enough reviews to get peoples pros and cons and some info.
barnesandnoble.com/w/the-calorie-myth-jonathan-bailor/1116537829?ean=9780062267337
Jonathan Bailor is a joke in the fitness community, he got destroyed by Alan Aragon and Layne Norton among a few others
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FviIXAvUj_U
http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2014/07/the-problem-with-calorie-myth-smarter.html
Clearly you have not read The Calorie Myth by Jonathan Bailor and watched the Youtube you posted. Man you need to get serious if you are going to slam science with a youtube video of that quality.
Off topic, but how do you see post history on this new format?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/profile/comments/user#/username
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FunkyTobias wrote: »ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »
Looking at your post history you are clearly confused. You need to get your money back from that book and buy a Biochemistry or Medical Physiology textbook you might actually learn somethingGaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »muffinsandcakes wrote: »extremelygrumpycat wrote: »Eat what you want. Eat at a deficit. Enjoy food and enjoy life.
Honestly. I eat healthy most meals, but sometimes I want a snack or treat and I eat it without guilt. It fits into my daily calorie goal and that's that.
If you want cake, eat cake. If you want a carrot, eat a carrot. End of story. You will see results if you eat at a deficit.
thanks
muffinsandcakes this site raised the same questions in my mind. After reading The Calorie Myth by JB this week I got a better understanding. Not sure I agree with him on all points but I do appreciate his 12 years of researching scientific studies on dieting. I did not know about the role of hormones to lose weight and keep it off for the next forty years. There are enough reviews to get peoples pros and cons and some info.
barnesandnoble.com/w/the-calorie-myth-jonathan-bailor/1116537829?ean=9780062267337
Jonathan Bailor is a joke in the fitness community, he got destroyed by Alan Aragon and Layne Norton among a few others
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FviIXAvUj_U
http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2014/07/the-problem-with-calorie-myth-smarter.html
Clearly you have not read The Calorie Myth by Jonathan Bailor and watched the Youtube you posted. Man you need to get serious if you are going to slam science with a youtube video of that quality.
Off topic, but how do you see post history on this new format?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/profile/comments/user#/username
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »
Looking at your post history you are clearly confused. You need to get your money back from that book and buy a Biochemistry or Medical Physiology textbook you might actually learn somethingGaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »muffinsandcakes wrote: »extremelygrumpycat wrote: »Eat what you want. Eat at a deficit. Enjoy food and enjoy life.
Honestly. I eat healthy most meals, but sometimes I want a snack or treat and I eat it without guilt. It fits into my daily calorie goal and that's that.
If you want cake, eat cake. If you want a carrot, eat a carrot. End of story. You will see results if you eat at a deficit.
thanks
muffinsandcakes this site raised the same questions in my mind. After reading The Calorie Myth by JB this week I got a better understanding. Not sure I agree with him on all points but I do appreciate his 12 years of researching scientific studies on dieting. I did not know about the role of hormones to lose weight and keep it off for the next forty years. There are enough reviews to get peoples pros and cons and some info.
barnesandnoble.com/w/the-calorie-myth-jonathan-bailor/1116537829?ean=9780062267337
Jonathan Bailor is a joke in the fitness community, he got destroyed by Alan Aragon and Layne Norton among a few others
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FviIXAvUj_U
http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2014/07/the-problem-with-calorie-myth-smarter.html
Clearly you have not read The Calorie Myth by Jonathan Bailor and watched the Youtube you posted. Man you need to get serious if you are going to slam science with a youtube video of that quality.
Off topic, but how do you see post history on this new format?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/profile/comments/user#/username
Where do you find user #?!
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DrWhoIsYerDad wrote: »A calorie is a calorie just as a gallon of gas is a gallon of gas
Bingo.
This is why all cars and trucks get the same MPG's in the USA.
A calorie is a calorie when outside of the body but when it goes into the body the brain and related hormones, etc will decide what that calorie will do, where it will go and how efficient it may do that.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »DrWhoIsYerDad wrote: »A calorie is a calorie just as a gallon of gas is a gallon of gas
Bingo.
This is why all cars and trucks get the same MPG's in the USA.
A calorie is a calorie when outside of the body but when it goes into the body the brain and related hormones, etc will decide what that calorie will do, where it will go and how efficient it may do that.
Oh for goodness sake… ENOUGH. You need to take a college-level physics and biochemistry course.0 -
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GaleHawkins wrote: »muffinsandcakes wrote: »extremelygrumpycat wrote: »Eat what you want. Eat at a deficit. Enjoy food and enjoy life.
Honestly. I eat healthy most meals, but sometimes I want a snack or treat and I eat it without guilt. It fits into my daily calorie goal and that's that.
If you want cake, eat cake. If you want a carrot, eat a carrot. End of story. You will see results if you eat at a deficit.
thanks
muffinsandcakes this site raised the same questions in my mind. After reading The Calorie Myth by JB this week I got a better understanding. Not sure I agree with him on all points but I do appreciate his 12 years of researching scientific studies on dieting. I did not know about the role of hormones to lose weight and keep it off for the next forty years. There are enough reviews to get peoples pros and cons and some info.
barnesandnoble.com/w/the-calorie-myth-jonathan-bailor/1116537829?ean=9780062267337
there you go again …posting pseudo science….
ndj if you read the end notes in the book you would quickly realize the level of your pseudo post. A man working at Microsoft who spent 12 years researching The Calorie Myth on his own time could be wrong but when you take the time to stop typing and start reading you will see the work he quotes is in no way pseudo science.
Do not get your self in legal trouble making public statements about a book you have not read in case you are put on a witness stand to support you demeaning public remark about the author's work and those whom he quotes.
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »DrWhoIsYerDad wrote: »A calorie is a calorie just as a gallon of gas is a gallon of gas
Bingo.
This is why all cars and trucks get the same MPG's in the USA.
A calorie is a calorie when outside of the body but when it goes into the body the brain and related hormones, etc will decide what that calorie will do, where it will go and how efficient it may do that.
Oh for goodness sake… ENOUGH. You need to take a college-level physics and biochemistry course.
I did that. What is your point?
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Lol, what? Trouble by who?GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »muffinsandcakes wrote: »extremelygrumpycat wrote: »Eat what you want. Eat at a deficit. Enjoy food and enjoy life.
Honestly. I eat healthy most meals, but sometimes I want a snack or treat and I eat it without guilt. It fits into my daily calorie goal and that's that.
If you want cake, eat cake. If you want a carrot, eat a carrot. End of story. You will see results if you eat at a deficit.
thanks
muffinsandcakes this site raised the same questions in my mind. After reading The Calorie Myth by JB this week I got a better understanding. Not sure I agree with him on all points but I do appreciate his 12 years of researching scientific studies on dieting. I did not know about the role of hormones to lose weight and keep it off for the next forty years. There are enough reviews to get peoples pros and cons and some info.
barnesandnoble.com/w/the-calorie-myth-jonathan-bailor/1116537829?ean=9780062267337
there you go again …posting pseudo science….
ndj if you read the end notes in the book you would quickly realize the level of your pseudo post. A man working at Microsoft who spent 12 years researching The Calorie Myth on his own time could be wrong but when you take the time to stop typing and start reading you will see the work he quotes is in no way pseudo science.
Do not get your self in trouble making public statements about a book you have not read in case you are put on a witness stand to support you demeaning public remark about the author's work and those whom he quotes.
Don't get into a sticky situation!
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Lol, what? Trouble by who?GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »muffinsandcakes wrote: »extremelygrumpycat wrote: »Eat what you want. Eat at a deficit. Enjoy food and enjoy life.
Honestly. I eat healthy most meals, but sometimes I want a snack or treat and I eat it without guilt. It fits into my daily calorie goal and that's that.
If you want cake, eat cake. If you want a carrot, eat a carrot. End of story. You will see results if you eat at a deficit.
thanks
muffinsandcakes this site raised the same questions in my mind. After reading The Calorie Myth by JB this week I got a better understanding. Not sure I agree with him on all points but I do appreciate his 12 years of researching scientific studies on dieting. I did not know about the role of hormones to lose weight and keep it off for the next forty years. There are enough reviews to get peoples pros and cons and some info.
barnesandnoble.com/w/the-calorie-myth-jonathan-bailor/1116537829?ean=9780062267337
there you go again …posting pseudo science….
ndj if you read the end notes in the book you would quickly realize the level of your pseudo post. A man working at Microsoft who spent 12 years researching The Calorie Myth on his own time could be wrong but when you take the time to stop typing and start reading you will see the work he quotes is in no way pseudo science.
Do not get your self in trouble making public statements about a book you have not read in case you are put on a witness stand to support you demeaning public remark about the author's work and those whom he quotes.
That is was in the post you quoted.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »DrWhoIsYerDad wrote: »A calorie is a calorie just as a gallon of gas is a gallon of gas
Bingo.
This is why all cars and trucks get the same MPG's in the USA.
A calorie is a calorie when outside of the body but when it goes into the body the brain and related hormones, etc will decide what that calorie will do, where it will go and how efficient it may do that.
Oh for goodness sake… ENOUGH. You need to take a college-level physics and biochemistry course.
I did that. What is your point?
My point is that you do not understand that calories in > calories out results in weight gain and calories in < calories out results in weight loss.
You CANNOT "stuff your face" with an unlimited amount of protein and fat and maintain your weight nor lose weight. When you eat in a caloric surplus, you GAIN weight. So your "theory" that you can eat as much protein and fat as you want but still lose weight is utter bullcrap.
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I suppose you could eat 4 slices of 350-cal. cake a day to lose weight... You might need to eat a lot of nuts though because most cakes and muffins don't include much protein in them.
To answer the question: A calorie is a calorie.
shape.com/healthy-eating/healthy-recipes/11-crazy-delicious-desserts-hidden-healthy-foods/slide/all
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Essentially, there are no special snowflakes. The laws of thermodynamics work the same for everyone. There are some things which can further complicate the functioning of those laws, such as outliers in the bell curve of basic metabolic rate for the population, or medical problems. But that doesn't negate the basic laws.
A calorie is a calorie. Period.
Nutrients, both macro and micro, and certainly have a profound effect on health, but that does not negate the fact that a calorie is a calorie.
The only way you could possibly prove that a calorie isn't a calorie is if you could find some combination of food, or eliminate or add some food, that would allow you to eat MORE than you burn each day, and not gain weight, with no confounding medical issues to explain it.0 -
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Lol, what? Trouble by who?GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »muffinsandcakes wrote: »extremelygrumpycat wrote: »Eat what you want. Eat at a deficit. Enjoy food and enjoy life.
Honestly. I eat healthy most meals, but sometimes I want a snack or treat and I eat it without guilt. It fits into my daily calorie goal and that's that.
If you want cake, eat cake. If you want a carrot, eat a carrot. End of story. You will see results if you eat at a deficit.
thanks
muffinsandcakes this site raised the same questions in my mind. After reading The Calorie Myth by JB this week I got a better understanding. Not sure I agree with him on all points but I do appreciate his 12 years of researching scientific studies on dieting. I did not know about the role of hormones to lose weight and keep it off for the next forty years. There are enough reviews to get peoples pros and cons and some info.
barnesandnoble.com/w/the-calorie-myth-jonathan-bailor/1116537829?ean=9780062267337
there you go again …posting pseudo science….
ndj if you read the end notes in the book you would quickly realize the level of your pseudo post. A man working at Microsoft who spent 12 years researching The Calorie Myth on his own time could be wrong but when you take the time to stop typing and start reading you will see the work he quotes is in no way pseudo science.
Do not get your self in trouble making public statements about a book you have not read in case you are put on a witness stand to support you demeaning public remark about the author's work and those whom he quotes.
Don't get into a sticky situation!
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If a calorie IS NOT a calorie, then I would suggest seeing a doctor.0
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GaleHawkins wrote: »DrWhoIsYerDad wrote: »A calorie is a calorie just as a gallon of gas is a gallon of gas
Bingo.
This is why all cars and trucks get the same MPG's in the USA.
A calorie is a calorie when outside of the body but when it goes into the body the brain and related hormones, etc will decide what that calorie will do, where it will go and how efficient it may do that.
Please link us to where you are getting that from. So different bodies do different things with calories from protein?
I have before and you did not appreciate it so you please link us to the evidence that you have that supports your OPINION.
You know and understand two cars that left the factory the same day end to end off of the same line with identical specs may not get the same MPG 5, 10, or 15 years down the road.
We all know weight gain or loss is not just a mathematical equation because we are biological beings who are not totally the same on the inside. Our stress level, hours of sleeping, etc impacts what a calorie may do after it is ingested therefore it could be folly giving dieting advice by the web even if you are licenced to do so.
There is science behind what happens to a calorie after ingested. Please do not harm those who come here blindly looking for help. I understand that is not often the case but there may be a few that do not realize the risk of coming to the web and asking medical advice.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »DrWhoIsYerDad wrote: »A calorie is a calorie just as a gallon of gas is a gallon of gas
Bingo.
This is why all cars and trucks get the same MPG's in the USA.
A calorie is a calorie when outside of the body but when it goes into the body the brain and related hormones, etc will decide what that calorie will do, where it will go and how efficient it may do that.
Please link us to where you are getting that from. So different bodies do different things with calories from protein?
I have before and you did not appreciate it so you please link us to the evidence that you have that supports your OPINION.
You know and understand two cars that left the factory the same day end to end off of the same line with identical specs may not get the same MPG 5, 10, or 15 years down the road.
We all know weight gain or loss is not just a mathematical equation because we are biological beings who are not totally the same on the inside. Our stress level, hours of sleeping, etc impacts what a calorie may do after it is ingested therefore it could be folly giving dieting advice by the web even if you are licenced to do so.
There is science behind what happens to a calorie after ingested. Please do not harm those who come here blindly looking for help. I understand that is not often the case but there may be a few that do not realize the risk of coming to the web and asking medical advice.
And please do not go around spreading false information. You are the only one who is causing harm by doing so.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »
Lol, what? Trouble by who?GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »muffinsandcakes wrote: »extremelygrumpycat wrote: »Eat what you want. Eat at a deficit. Enjoy food and enjoy life.
Honestly. I eat healthy most meals, but sometimes I want a snack or treat and I eat it without guilt. It fits into my daily calorie goal and that's that.
If you want cake, eat cake. If you want a carrot, eat a carrot. End of story. You will see results if you eat at a deficit.
thanks
muffinsandcakes this site raised the same questions in my mind. After reading The Calorie Myth by JB this week I got a better understanding. Not sure I agree with him on all points but I do appreciate his 12 years of researching scientific studies on dieting. I did not know about the role of hormones to lose weight and keep it off for the next forty years. There are enough reviews to get peoples pros and cons and some info.
barnesandnoble.com/w/the-calorie-myth-jonathan-bailor/1116537829?ean=9780062267337
there you go again …posting pseudo science….
ndj if you read the end notes in the book you would quickly realize the level of your pseudo post. A man working at Microsoft who spent 12 years researching The Calorie Myth on his own time could be wrong but when you take the time to stop typing and start reading you will see the work he quotes is in no way pseudo science.
Do not get your self in trouble making public statements about a book you have not read in case you are put on a witness stand to support you demeaning public remark about the author's work and those whom he quotes.
That is was in the post you quoted.
The author is going to sue NDJ for defamation?
OOoooooo! Where are the forum police when you need them?
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I used to just eat my 1400 calories of awful food and lose weight about half a kilo a week. Recently I've been clean eating on 1500 calories and I feel FANTASTIC! I lost 2 kilos in the first week. I sleep better and I have more energy-1
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »DrWhoIsYerDad wrote: »A calorie is a calorie just as a gallon of gas is a gallon of gas
Bingo.
This is why all cars and trucks get the same MPG's in the USA.
A calorie is a calorie when outside of the body but when it goes into the body the brain and related hormones, etc will decide what that calorie will do, where it will go and how efficient it may do that.
Please link us to where you are getting that from. So different bodies do different things with calories from protein?
I have before and you did not appreciate it so you please link us to the evidence that you have that supports your OPINION.
You know and understand two cars that left the factory the same day end to end off of the same line with identical specs may not get the same MPG 5, 10, or 15 years down the road.
We all know weight gain or loss is not just a mathematical equation because we are biological beings who are not totally the same on the inside. Our stress level, hours of sleeping, etc impacts what a calorie may do after it is ingested therefore it could be folly giving dieting advice by the web even if you are licenced to do so.
There is science behind what happens to a calorie after ingested. Please do not harm those who come here blindly looking for help. I understand that is not often the case but there may be a few that do not realize the risk of coming to the web and asking medical advice.
And please do not go around spreading false information. You are the only one who is causing harm by doing so.
Am I misunderstanding? People do have different metabolic rates, water retention, and other things that can interfere with weight loss. My weight loss isn't linear and doesn't follow a formula exactly. Most people state something about unless you have health issues before giving advice. I thought that was because there may be certain dietary considerations or weight loss issues that don't fit most people.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »Do not get your self in legal trouble making public statements about a book you have not read in case you are put on a witness stand to support you demeaning public remark about the author's work and those whom he quotes.
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »DrWhoIsYerDad wrote: »A calorie is a calorie just as a gallon of gas is a gallon of gas
Bingo.
This is why all cars and trucks get the same MPG's in the USA.
A calorie is a calorie when outside of the body but when it goes into the body the brain and related hormones, etc will decide what that calorie will do, where it will go and how efficient it may do that.
Please link us to where you are getting that from. So different bodies do different things with calories from protein?
I have before and you did not appreciate it so you please link us to the evidence that you have that supports your OPINION.
You know and understand two cars that left the factory the same day end to end off of the same line with identical specs may not get the same MPG 5, 10, or 15 years down the road.
We all know weight gain or loss is not just a mathematical equation because we are biological beings who are not totally the same on the inside. Our stress level, hours of sleeping, etc impacts what a calorie may do after it is ingested therefore it could be folly giving dieting advice by the web even if you are licenced to do so.
There is science behind what happens to a calorie after ingested. Please do not harm those who come here blindly looking for help. I understand that is not often the case but there may be a few that do not realize the risk of coming to the web and asking medical advice.
And please do not go around spreading false information. You are the only one who is causing harm by doing so.
Am I misunderstanding? People do have different metabolic rates, water retention, and other things that can interfere with weight loss. My weight loss isn't linear and doesn't follow a formula exactly. Most people state something about unless you have health issues before giving advice. I thought that was because there may be certain dietary considerations or weight loss issues that don't fit most people.
That's not what I am talking about…… I'm talking about the fact that he goes around telling people they can lose or maintain their weight if they eat low carb and only eat protein and fat. He believes a person can eat however many calories from protein and fat and not gain weight. That's simply untrue.0
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