Blame it on the ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, alcohol
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@dbmata YOU GOT ME. Guilty.
It just got to me. Bad filter.
I guess I should have expected lots of negative replies, although I've only gotten a few.
Everyone has actually been super helpful and given useful practical advice that I can implement on Turkey weekend, which should be my next debauchery.0 -
peachyfuzzle wrote: »If you don't want to make the commitment to better your health, then don't. But, don't dabble your toe in the water just enough to think you have reason to whine about nothing changing while still touting that you're not really changing at all.
I have been an alcoholic for much of my adult life, especially the last decade, so I know a thing or two about it, and have zero sympathy for people who not only refuse to change, but make a mockery of changing at the same time.
From a fellow recovering alcoholic/addict, this post is spot on0 -
By the way diet soda is poison, and sodas in general should be avoided, they leech calcium and other minerals from your body. The only liquids I drink now are water, green tea, black coffee, red wine, and if I have hard liquor I drink it neat or on ice.
I've been poisoning myself for years. Oh the tragedy!!!
OP: When I drink socially I like to do vodka and diet drinks. One of my favorites is Vodka and Diet Cherry 7up, especially in the summer time. Now that it's colder I like a warmer drink and will occasionally have Fireball with Diet Coke. Usually I just drink beer though and fit it in, but my daily calorie goal to maintain is closer to 1800 so I have some more wiggle room.
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You don't have to quit drinking to lose weight. Hell I quit drinking for 8 months and didn't lose a lb! I have lost over 30 lbs on here will still enjoying my wine and sometimes beer or liquor. Really it comes down to the choices you make while drinking. Are you the type who has a couple drinks then all will power goes out the window and you eat everything in site? Then you might want to think about not drinking too much. Alcohol really doesn't have a ton of calories if you make the choice to not go too sweet and stick to diet mixers. If it's something you like fit it in. You have the right idea with not letting this consume you like a diet. That's what will make it stick!0
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We don't go out and party. Ever. My Love is in 2 bands and we usually find ourselves at a bar twice a month for their gigs. I'll admit, I love my rum and diet coke. But the calories in alcohol are so pointless. So I plan my day out the day before so I can fit two rum and cokes into my night.
I love my wine, though. 110 calories I give myself a night.0 -
If you are overweight then i suggest that 1280 calories per day is far too low anyway.0
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By the way diet soda is poison, and sodas in general should be avoided, they leech calcium and other minerals from your body. The only liquids I drink now are water, green tea, black coffee, red wine, and if I have hard liquor I drink it neat or on ice.
This is madness. Science - study some of it.
Diet soda is not poison, nothing wrong with sodas in general. if you have the calories for them, and they fit your lifestyle0 -
@dbmata YOU GOT ME. Guilty.
It just got to me. Bad filter.
I guess I should have expected lots of negative replies, although I've only gotten a few.
Everyone has actually been super helpful and given useful practical advice that I can implement on Turkey weekend, which should be my next debauchery.
I make beer. I made cider. I make mead. I will eventually distill.
I've cut down what I drink for two reasons. 1. I feel like hell after drinking when I work out. 2. When I make 5 gallons of beer, I have to drink 5 gallons of beer. That's a lot of calories for the types of beers I make.
I need to prioritize proteins over ethanol. Just comes down to what you want and what you want to do. I'd rather explore the beauty that is strength, than the beauty that is a finely crafted whisky flip.0 -
Good lord all the hate. I have only been here a few weeks and have yet to see this much anger come out of people.0
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peachyfuzzle wrote: »If you don't want to make the commitment to better your health, then don't. But, don't dabble your toe in the water just enough to think you have reason to whine about nothing changing while still touting that you're not really changing at all.
I have been an alcoholic for much of my adult life, especially the last decade, so I know a thing or two about it, and have zero sympathy for people who not only refuse to change, but make a mockery of changing at the same time.
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peachyfuzzle wrote: »If you don't want to make the commitment to better your health, then don't. But, don't dabble your toe in the water just enough to think you have reason to whine about nothing changing while still touting that you're not really changing at all.
I have been an alcoholic for much of my adult life, especially the last decade, so I know a thing or two about it, and have zero sympathy for people who not only refuse to change, but make a mockery of changing at the same time.
Dude, you are projecting. DID I NOT SAY I AM NEW TO THIS AND I AM LEARNING BY TRIAL AND ERROR? and ABSTAIN FROM JUDGEMENT". My diary is public, go see me make an effort. You have an alcohol problem I DONT. You are projecting. I am simply trying to lose weight while maintaining my life style because I refuse to let the diet BECOME my life.
I'm obviously open to change, hence asking for advise and opinions.
Rant over.
He gave you an honest and true answer, no need to be so sensitive.
From the OP, it sounds like you are looking for validation for excessive drinking as you stated you refuse to give it up. You need to make a decision on what is more important to you, booze or your fitness goals?
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rseneca724 wrote: »Good lord all the hate. I have only been here a few weeks and have yet to see this much anger come out of people.
Anger? I see no anger.
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PS: I also know people who just by cutting diet sodas lost 15 lbs. Probably has something to do with fooling the brain into triggering insulin release.0
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east2west14 wrote: »
Is wrong0 -
There was a website I found a few weeks ago called "get drunk not fat" that was kind of interesting. It listed out all kinds of different drinks and the caloric value. I myself have one night a week with friends that usually involves more wine than we need. But I'm cutting back more as I get further into my journey to health.
Anyways, just try to moderate and be more aware of what your ingesting. You don't have to get blitzed to have a good time
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I like white wine. The most bang for your buck I say.0
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depending on dose ol' sport, they're all poison. So your claim isn't relevant.
Your lack of basic scientific education is showing. Education is more important than FUD. FYI.0 -
Pretty much your best option is diet mixers with lower calorie liqueur . jack and coke. vodka soda. you could make fresh fruit smoothies with alcohol at home but no bar will serve plain fruit without sugar additives.0
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....well with all the above being said...I say just stick to spirits with diet soda or wine.0
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Jesyka_Gee wrote: »Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this but when I'm out with friends and we are grabbing drinks, either stick to light beer or if you want the hard stuff go for a Vodka Tonic or Gin & Tonic. Tonic is a form of water, which will help with hydration throughout the night and a minimal hang over.
You can cut that down even more by using club soda (0 cal for 8 oz.) rather than tonic (130 cal for 8 oz.). A lime wedge adds negligible calories. It doesn't have exactly the same taste as tonic, of course, but you get used to it.
Diet tonic is an option also... but I'm not a big fan of the artificial sweeteners either, especially when there is another option.
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Hey OP...
I cut back on drinking beer and whiskey, but I didn't cut them entirely.
Unless you're an alcoholic or are in recovery (good luck and keep up the good work to those that are), you don't need to eliminate alcohol since you enjoy it.
I'm a fan of whiskey and soda, or a single on the rocks.
I limit myself to one these days, and I have it on special occasions or when I have an abundance of calories left for that day's plan.
The suggestions about switching to diet soda and simpler drinks are excellent.
If I'm out socially, I'll have a club soda with lime/lemon in it. Those I can have a number of without the worry. If I have a few calories but not a ton, I'll have a cranberry juice and club.
This site has calorie information for various alcoholic beverages: http://getdrunknotfat.com/
Good luck. Enjoying what you like while losing weight IS possible.0 -
Dude, you are projecting. DID I NOT SAY I AM NEW TO THIS AND I AM LEARNING BY TRIAL AND ERROR? and ABSTAIN FROM JUDGEMENT". My diary is public, go see me make an effort. You have an alcohol problem I DONT. You are projecting. I am simply trying to lose weight while maintaining my life style because I refuse to let the diet BECOME my life.
I'm obviously open to change, hence asking for advise and opinions.
Rant over.
Bolded negates the sentence prior to it and then this...I am not going to stop drinking because it's part of my social life and I like it.
You're not that open to change. It would seem that you do not have a handle on your drinking if you go out and in one evening drink your whole day worth of calories. Perhaps getting your diet in order and ensuring you can stay within your limits there is a good starting point, and then work alcohol in around it. Looking at your diary, it's not totally the alcohol to blame (that's a cop out).
Most of us here are making lifestyle changes. It's not a "diet" .. it's not temporary. I'm eating in a manner that I can sustain for my life, not a manner that I can be wishy-washy on when I see fit.0 -
peachyfuzzle wrote: »If you don't want to make the commitment to better your health, then don't. But, don't dabble your toe in the water just enough to think you have reason to whine about nothing changing while still touting that you're not really changing at all.
I have been an alcoholic for much of my adult life, especially the last decade, so I know a thing or two about it, and have zero sympathy for people who not only refuse to change, but make a mockery of changing at the same time.
Dude, you are projecting. DID I NOT SAY I AM NEW TO THIS AND I AM LEARNING BY TRIAL AND ERROR? and ABSTAIN FROM JUDGEMENT". My diary is public, go see me make an effort. You have an alcohol problem I DONT. You are projecting. I am simply trying to lose weight while maintaining my life style because I refuse to let the diet BECOME my life.
I'm obviously open to change, hence asking for advise and opinions.
Rant over.
So you called him out for having a drinking problem and then loudly proclaimed that YOU DON'T.
Yet, you admit to binge drinking and saying you refuse to change?
Sounds like someone's in denial about their own drinking problem, just sayin'0
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