Can some food spike your metabolism?
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protein rich foods.
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Well, that's pretty simple, it's the same as go slower to go faster in auto racing.MomTo3Lovez wrote: »....what is with the whole Eat More to Lose More??
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I'm not a fan of the whole eat more to lose more thought process because it just makes people think things work the way the don't. At the end of the day to lose you need a deficit. Hormones do play a role in overall health and like I said before Cotisol is a big one. I feel the whole eat more lose more idea gets tossed around without consideration to what other factors could have been responsible.MomTo3Lovez wrote: »MomTo3Lovez wrote: »MomTo3Lovez wrote: »OP I know you said you added calories. Is it possible you miscalculated? I find fatty foods like nuts sometimes fill me up longer and I actually eat less calories. I am not doubting you, just that I haven't heard of losing by eating more.
He may have been in too much of a deficit and adding more calories might have helped with some of the weight loss.
Biology doesn't work that way. "Too much of a deficit" results in rapid weight loss - always.
So then when I was stalled in my weight loss why was I told to play around with the calories with adding more calories??
I may have worded it wrong but I have heard that adding more calories can help.
Because you were give information by someone based on false ideas. You might see a reduction in weight after an increase or a cheat meal/day due to relieving some stress and having a reduction in cortisol but increasing isn't making you burn more fat.MomTo3Lovez wrote: »MomTo3Lovez wrote: »MomTo3Lovez wrote: »OP I know you said you added calories. Is it possible you miscalculated? I find fatty foods like nuts sometimes fill me up longer and I actually eat less calories. I am not doubting you, just that I haven't heard of losing by eating more.
He may have been in too much of a deficit and adding more calories might have helped with some of the weight loss.
Biology doesn't work that way. "Too much of a deficit" results in rapid weight loss - always.
So then when I was stalled in my weight loss why was I told to play around with the calories with adding more calories??
Because the world is full of people giving bad advice on topics they know little about.
Oh then I guess when I added more calories by a little and started losing again I guess it was just a fluke...ok thanks
The problem is you accepted information just because and then when you try to pass it off to others you might be asked to explain it but you won't be able to
Thank you for the first part of your reply....the second part well it is what it is, it happened with me when I added more calories and that's what I said didn't try to come up with anything else just my experience that's all, didn't look to start anything...sorry.
Ok well since you apparently know more then me with the amount of posts you have clearly you have been here a while....what is with the whole Eat More to Lose More?? I mean it contradicts weight loss no? Unless I am not understanding it fully which is entirely possible hence why I am asking.
I prefer "Net caloric deficit to lose fat"
Yeah that makes more sense because people like myself that are still learning interpret it differently....I am glad that I asked about it because it probably would have backfired on me since I don't have a lot to lose so I am glad I opened my big "uneducated about how weight loss works" mouth
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yopeeps025 wrote: »
protein rich foods.
It's worth noting that while protein takes more energy to process comparatively, the difference in TEF (and TEF itself for that matter) tend to be over exaggerated in terms of their impact to one's total energy expenditure.
For that matter, unless you're an athlete or have a job with insane physical demands, one's physical activity accounts for a relatively small chunk of TDEE. Most people burn most of their calories by just living. That's probably why we have these talks about increasing metabolism, but it's the wrong road to go down. Controlling intake will always be more efficient than boosting the output.
That's not to say one shouldn't exercise. It's healthy.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »
protein rich foods.
It's worth noting that while protein takes more energy to process comparatively, the difference in TEF (and TEF itself for that matter) tend to be over exaggerated in terms of their impact to one's total energy expenditure.
For that matter, unless you're an athlete or have a job with insane physical demands, one's physical activity accounts for a relatively small chunk of TDEE. Most people burn most of their calories by just living. That's probably why we have these talks about increasing metabolism, but it's the wrong road to go down. Controlling intake will always be more efficient than boosting the output.
That's not to say one shouldn't exercise. It's healthy.
Something is better than nothing like exercise right? I weight train also to increase my output. I train in general to increase my output.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
protein rich foods.
It's worth noting that while protein takes more energy to process comparatively, the difference in TEF (and TEF itself for that matter) tend to be over exaggerated in terms of their impact to one's total energy expenditure.
For that matter, unless you're an athlete or have a job with insane physical demands, one's physical activity accounts for a relatively small chunk of TDEE. Most people burn most of their calories by just living. That's probably why we have these talks about increasing metabolism, but it's the wrong road to go down. Controlling intake will always be more efficient than boosting the output.
That's not to say one shouldn't exercise. It's healthy.
Something is better than nothing like exercise right? I weight train also to increase my output. I train in general to increase my output.
I don't know how to multi quote but thanks everyone that answered. 0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
protein rich foods.
It's worth noting that while protein takes more energy to process comparatively, the difference in TEF (and TEF itself for that matter) tend to be over exaggerated in terms of their impact to one's total energy expenditure.
For that matter, unless you're an athlete or have a job with insane physical demands, one's physical activity accounts for a relatively small chunk of TDEE. Most people burn most of their calories by just living. That's probably why we have these talks about increasing metabolism, but it's the wrong road to go down. Controlling intake will always be more efficient than boosting the output.
That's not to say one shouldn't exercise. It's healthy.
Something is better than nothing like exercise right? I weight train also to increase my output. I train in general to increase my output.
As I said. I'm not suggesting that one shouldn't exercise. I will say that I don't burn much in the way calories while weight training. And I despise most cardio that isn't a walk. I still do both because I think the activity is important for a number of reasons; part of that is the bit of extra burn.
One shouldn't completely ignore the effects of activity on TDEE, but imho intake is more critical in creating a deficit.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
protein rich foods.
It's worth noting that while protein takes more energy to process comparatively, the difference in TEF (and TEF itself for that matter) tend to be over exaggerated in terms of their impact to one's total energy expenditure.
For that matter, unless you're an athlete or have a job with insane physical demands, one's physical activity accounts for a relatively small chunk of TDEE. Most people burn most of their calories by just living. That's probably why we have these talks about increasing metabolism, but it's the wrong road to go down. Controlling intake will always be more efficient than boosting the output.
That's not to say one shouldn't exercise. It's healthy.
Something is better than nothing like exercise right? I weight train also to increase my output. I train in general to increase my output.
As I said. I'm not suggesting that one shouldn't exercise. I will say that I don't burn much in the way calories while weight training. And I despise most cardio that isn't a walk. I still do both because I think the activity is important for a number of reasons; part of that is the bit of extra burn.
One shouldn't completely ignore the effects of activity on TDEE, but imho intake is more critical in creating a deficit.
intake is easier to control by a long shot. Also you hate cardio and just do it because of the benefits. That sucks. I love my workouts.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »
protein rich foods.
It's worth noting that while protein takes more energy to process comparatively, the difference in TEF (and TEF itself for that matter) tend to be over exaggerated in terms of their impact to one's total energy expenditure.
For that matter, unless you're an athlete or have a job with insane physical demands, one's physical activity accounts for a relatively small chunk of TDEE. Most people burn most of their calories by just living. That's probably why we have these talks about increasing metabolism, but it's the wrong road to go down. Controlling intake will always be more efficient than boosting the output.
That's not to say one shouldn't exercise. It's healthy.
Thank you for this--an interesting thought. 0 -
EatsNotTreats wrote: »
How can you state this and not give examples?EatsNotTreats wrote: »YES! certain combos of diet and certain types of exercise can absolutely spike your metabolism.
Oh, easy. By just typing the sentence on to the keyboard and hitting Post Reply
I'm going against the grain here... but I LOVE this response.
Yeah, it even made me chuckle ("got me there!") but the whole thing from beginning to end was just a troll looking for an argument.0 -
It was deleted? Norfolk and Way.
It was funny!0 -
EatsNotTreats wrote: »
I've noticed that outbursts are fairly commonplace in response to ridiculous unsubstantiated claims.0 -
EatsNotTreats wrote: »
How can you state this and not give examples?EatsNotTreats wrote: »YES! certain combos of diet and certain types of exercise can absolutely spike your metabolism.
Oh, easy. By just typing the sentence on to the keyboard and hitting Post Reply
I'm going against the grain here... but I LOVE this response.
Yeah, it even made me chuckle ("got me there!") but the whole thing from beginning to end was just a troll looking for an argument.
I don't think troll is the right word. Maybe just mis-informed
I wish there was some miracle food combo0 -
I was serious about my post above, and it was ignored.0
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Fats have thermic effect approximately 3%. Dietary fat is very easy to process.
Carbohydrates induced thermogenic response is about 7%.
Proteins are hard to process. Protein is the most thermogenic nutrient, with the thermic effect close to 30%. Some body temp increasers are chilli pepper, horseradish, mustard, cinnamon, fennel seed, garlic, ginger, ginseng, guarana, and turmeric.
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Thank you
Fats have thermic effect approximately 3%. Dietary fat is very easy to process.
Carbohydrates induced thermogenic response is about 7%.
Proteins are hard to process. Protein is the most thermogenic nutrient, with the thermic effect close to 30%. Some body temp increasers are chilli pepper, horseradish, mustard, cinnamon, fennel seed, garlic, ginger, ginseng, guarana, and turmeric.
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Fats have thermic effect approximately 3%. Dietary fat is very easy to process.
Carbohydrates induced thermogenic response is about 7%.
Proteins are hard to process. Protein is the most thermogenic nutrient, with the thermic effect close to 30%. Some body temp increasers are chilli pepper, horseradish, mustard, cinnamon, fennel seed, garlic, ginger, ginseng, guarana, and turmeric.
Percent of .. what?
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Fats have thermic effect approximately 3%. Dietary fat is very easy to process.
Carbohydrates induced thermogenic response is about 7%.
Proteins are hard to process. Protein is the most thermogenic nutrient, with the thermic effect close to 30%. Some body temp increasers are chilli pepper, horseradish, mustard, cinnamon, fennel seed, garlic, ginger, ginseng, guarana, and turmeric.
Percent of .. what?
The calories i guess like thermongenics is 10% of the calories you eat. Reason why meal timing and meal spacing have no effect on weight loss or gain.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »
Fats have thermic effect approximately 3%. Dietary fat is very easy to process.
Carbohydrates induced thermogenic response is about 7%.
Proteins are hard to process. Protein is the most thermogenic nutrient, with the thermic effect close to 30%. Some body temp increasers are chilli pepper, horseradish, mustard, cinnamon, fennel seed, garlic, ginger, ginseng, guarana, and turmeric.
Percent of .. what?
The calories i guess like thermongenics is 10% of the calories you eat. Reason why meal timing and meal spacing have no effect on weight loss or gain.
Or 3% or 7% or 30%
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Fats have thermic effect approximately 3%. Dietary fat is very easy to process.
Carbohydrates induced thermogenic response is about 7%.
Proteins are hard to process. Protein is the most thermogenic nutrient, with the thermic effect close to 30%. Some body temp increasers are chilli pepper, horseradish, mustard, cinnamon, fennel seed, garlic, ginger, ginseng, guarana, and turmeric.
Percent of .. what?
Percentage of thermogenic response from what I understand.0 -
Drinking lots of water also increases thermogenesis.0
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EatsNotTreats wrote: »
How can you state this and not give examples?EatsNotTreats wrote: »YES! certain combos of diet and certain types of exercise can absolutely spike your metabolism.
Oh, easy. By just typing the sentence on to the keyboard and hitting Post Reply
I'm going against the grain here... but I LOVE this response.
Yeah, it even made me chuckle ("got me there!") but the whole thing from beginning to end was just a troll looking for an argument.
I don't think troll is the right word. Maybe just mis-informed
I wish there was some miracle food combo
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__drmerc__ wrote: »I think you need to eat negative calorie foods
I thought that this has yet to be scientifically proven....
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Does it increase metabolism?
Not that I'm going to go nose first into a bowl of the stuff, just curious and it came to mind as a potential qualifier.
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Whoa, what happened here?
Thanks for the responses (most of them anyways). Food for thought.
The only one that has me worried is the batteries one - the scale probably does need new batteries, I knew it was too good to be true! 0
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