Does alcohol really count the same as other calories?

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  • RhineDHP
    RhineDHP Posts: 1,025 Member
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    baconslave wrote: »
    glevinso wrote: »
    jenifer7teen wrote: »
    What about drinking until you throw up? Will that help you lose weight?

    Uhh... no...

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  • glevinso
    glevinso Posts: 1,895 Member
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    GuitarJerry wrote: »

    I don't know. I read it constantly. There was just a MFP blog post that said the same, that the liver metabolizes the alcohol before fat. Not sure what process that is, but it is written about quite a bit. I'd like to understand the process. What I read is that alcohol is toxic. Therefore, the body somehow recognizes alcohol as poison and therefore priorities metabolizing the poison, and prioritizes that process over processing normal food. Once the body is safe from the "poison", it resumes normal processing.

    Again, I'm not saying this is correct, im just saying I have read it a lot. I believe even the Mayo clinic suggests this is the case. So, I tend to believe it. I would need a bit more evidence that it's not true. I tend to be skeptical on all sides of all issues. So, it's pretty difficult to convince me unless there is a solid study either way that discusses this process in depth. I'd even settle for a text book.

    You read it constantly because it "sounds good". Like "no carbs at night" or "diet soda makes you fat". People like to say things that makes them sound smart, whether or not there is any truth to it. People will also say just about anything to reinforce their particular belief system.

    It is really easy to say something "happens" like this without providing actual details as to the mechanism, and make it sound "smart".

  • baconslave
    baconslave Posts: 6,966 Member
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    RhineDHP wrote: »
    baconslave wrote: »
    glevinso wrote: »
    jenifer7teen wrote: »
    What about drinking until you throw up? Will that help you lose weight?

    Uhh... no...

    (I hope you just missed a sarcasm emoticon or something)

    The interwebz desperately needs one of those.

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    Perfect.
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
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    glevinso wrote: »
    GuitarJerry wrote: »

    I don't know. I read it constantly. There was just a MFP blog post that said the same, that the liver metabolizes the alcohol before fat. Not sure what process that is, but it is written about quite a bit. I'd like to understand the process. What I read is that alcohol is toxic. Therefore, the body somehow recognizes alcohol as poison and therefore priorities metabolizing the poison, and prioritizes that process over processing normal food. Once the body is safe from the "poison", it resumes normal processing.

    Again, I'm not saying this is correct, im just saying I have read it a lot. I believe even the Mayo clinic suggests this is the case. So, I tend to believe it. I would need a bit more evidence that it's not true. I tend to be skeptical on all sides of all issues. So, it's pretty difficult to convince me unless there is a solid study either way that discusses this process in depth. I'd even settle for a text book.

    You read it constantly because it "sounds good". Like "no carbs at night" or "diet soda makes you fat". People like to say things that makes them sound smart, whether or not there is any truth to it. People will also say just about anything to reinforce their particular belief system.

    It is really easy to say something "happens" like this without providing actual details as to the mechanism, and make it sound "smart".
    I don't know. The MFP blog post linked above was written by an RD candidate working on her masters.
    "Because alcohol is seen as a toxin, the liver prioritizes metabolizing alcohol first...."

    Another-
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/03/health/wine-waistline/
    "Alcohol temporarily keeps your body from burning fat, explains integrative medicine specialist Dr. Pamela M. Peeke, author of the book "The Hunger Fix."
    The reason is that your body can't store calories from alcohol for later, the way it does with food calories. So when you drink, your metabolic system must stop what it's doing (like, say, burning off calories from your last meal) to get rid of the booze.
    "Drinking presses 'pause' on your metabolism, shoves away the other calories, and says, 'Break me down first!'" Peeke explains. The result is that whatever you recently ate gets stored as fat."
  • jenifer7teen
    jenifer7teen Posts: 205 Member
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    baconslave wrote: »
    RhineDHP wrote: »
    baconslave wrote: »
    glevinso wrote: »
    jenifer7teen wrote: »
    What about drinking until you throw up? Will that help you lose weight?

    Uhh... no...

    (I hope you just missed a sarcasm emoticon or something)

    The interwebz desperately needs one of those.

    tumblr_mnsf7z8UpI1qm9fxho1_500.gif

    Perfect.

    love it!
  • baconslave
    baconslave Posts: 6,966 Member
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    Geez...lots of happy thoughts in this one...

    http://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/04/health/why-the-body-may-waste-the-calories-from-alcohol.html
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
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    baconslave wrote: »
    Geez...lots of happy thoughts in this one...

    http://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/04/health/why-the-body-may-waste-the-calories-from-alcohol.html

    Wow, that's really interesting!

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