rate my diet plan!
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As someone who is studying nutritional sciences I would never recommend a diet like this to anyone.
Variety = healthy diet IMO
Given there is so much we don't know about components in our foods and nutrient interactions in foods, I would recommend trying to eat as many *different* items as you can (esp fruits/veggies)...
PRO/CHO/FATS and kcals are not everything and even if you are ok with 'boring' -- your body might be missing out on something that you aren't even aware of.
Variety seeking FTW!
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coruscatti wrote: »My latest revision to my diet plan goes as follows ...
Anyway, let me know what you think!
I looked at th diary and yes, it's pretty much what have been eating. You have been hitting the macros. And people around the world eat the same thing day after day. I am in favor of any practice that is not harmful and perhaps kick-starts them along the path to their goals.
But ... you generally take in 1500 cal and exercise off 1000 calories. That is a 500 cal allowance for living.
--- edit --- Estimate a 23 yo female 5' 4" 126 lb (that is a good BMI) The flat-on-your-back Basil Metabolic Rate ( BMR) is 1300. The Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) is a better measure. For the same person with a sedentary job, the TDEE is 1667.
The math does not add up for maintenance. How do you figure it?
Wait what are you talking about? Since when do I exercise off 1000 calories? I rarely ever exercise at all and when I do it's never more than 300 cals and I eat it back. I don't know wtf you're reading.
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »So, for breakfast, you're including two cups of leafy greens? With nothing on them? Just...greens?
Yes I don't mind eating dark leafy green vegetables (ie. kale, arugula, spinach) without dressing...I never really have ever used dressing on them. Honestly I find dressing to be a little gross, even the homemade vinegar/olive oil stuff. The only leafy green vegetable that HAS to have dressing on it is lettuce because it is so bitter. But I solve that problem by just not buying lettuce since I don't like it anyway and the greens I mentioned are healthier.And for lunch, two pieces of bread? Just...plain? Not a sandwich, or toast with some spread like almond butter rather than the (raw??) almonds. (Do you mean blanched? Raw almonds are poisonous, aren't they?)
It says "raw almonds" on the container. I'm sure they're not entirely raw. Well I also have cheese to go with the toast, not ON the bread, but alongside it. I also sometimes add my own seasonings to the almonds such as cayenne pepper and I am going to be adding salt because my sodium intake is too low. I also decided that sometimes I will have peanut butter instead of almonds...I think that will be ok as long as it's not the "natural" kind of peanut butter that leaks oil EVERYWHERE.
However I really don't see how toast with almond butter is "superior" to toast with almonds on the side. They're like basically the same thing.And tea for dessert? TEA? With nothing in it? How would this be dessert?
Well it's not "dessert" exactly, it's more "what I consume while studying after having dinner." I already had my "sweet" food at lunch so it would be too much to have another "sweet" food after dinner. Also tea is awesome, especially herbal teas, and very flavorful even without any sugar in it or anything. I also find unsweetened coconut milk to be flavorful (honestly I prefer it over the vanilla/original versions).
I am a supertaster so maybe my taste buds are different from most peoples'.Sorry for all the questions, but I find this plan very confusing, and if I'm reading it correctly, extremely unappetizing.
Now I know why the average American is obese!
Anyway I would say about 10% of responses have been about actual health and stuff that's actually relevant. The rest have just been people trying to take me down a peg. You are all such lovely people.
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As someone who is studying nutritional sciences I would never recommend a diet like this to anyone.
Variety = healthy diet IMO
Given there is so much we don't know about components in our foods and nutrient interactions in foods, I would recommend trying to eat as many *different* items as you can (esp fruits/veggies)...
PRO/CHO/FATS and kcals are not everything and even if you are ok with 'boring' -- your body might be missing out on something that you aren't even aware of.
See now this is a good and relevant response!-1 -
coruscatti wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »So, for breakfast, you're including two cups of leafy greens? With nothing on them? Just...greens?
Yes I don't mind eating dark leafy green vegetables (ie. kale, arugula, spinach) without dressing...I never really have ever used dressing on them. Honestly I find dressing to be a little gross, even the homemade vinegar/olive oil stuff. The only leafy green vegetable that HAS to have dressing on it is lettuce because it is so bitter. But I solve that problem by just not buying lettuce since I don't like it anyway and the greens I mentioned are healthier.And for lunch, two pieces of bread? Just...plain? Not a sandwich, or toast with some spread like almond butter rather than the (raw??) almonds. (Do you mean blanched? Raw almonds are poisonous, aren't they?)
It says "raw almonds" on the container. I'm sure they're not entirely raw. Well I also have cheese to go with the toast, not ON the bread, but alongside it. I also sometimes add my own seasonings to the almonds such as cayenne pepper and I am going to be adding salt because my sodium intake is too low. I also decided that sometimes I will have peanut butter instead of almonds...I think that will be ok as long as it's not the "natural" kind of peanut butter that leaks oil EVERYWHERE.
However I really don't see how toast with almond butter is "superior" to toast with almonds on the side. They're like basically the same thing.And tea for dessert? TEA? With nothing in it? How would this be dessert?
Well it's not "dessert" exactly, it's more "what I consume while studying after having dinner." I already had my "sweet" food at lunch so it would be too much to have another "sweet" food after dinner. Also tea is awesome, especially herbal teas, and very flavorful even without any sugar in it or anything. I also find unsweetened coconut milk to be flavorful (honestly I prefer it over the vanilla/original versions).
I am a supertaster so maybe my taste buds are different from most peoples'.Sorry for all the questions, but I find this plan very confusing, and if I'm reading it correctly, extremely unappetizing.
Now I know why the average American is obese!
Anyway I would say about 10% of responses have been about actual health and stuff that's actually relevant. The rest have just been people trying to take me down a peg. You are all such lovely people.
I think I better understand why you need water with your cheerios... dry greens, plain toast, cheerios and nuts... I would need water to help get all that down too!
And whats the reason you think Americans are obese? Because people here are advising you to eat more variety and saying food should be enjoyable?
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Now I know why the average American is obese!
And you are lovely too
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I think I better understand why you need water with your cheerios... dry greens, plain toast, cheerios and nuts... I would need water to help get all that down too!
Ummm no it's because you're supposed to drink 8 cups of water per day. Since I work in a lab I'm not allowed to eat or drink anything as I work and so I have to remember to actually go get water when I'm taking a break, or else I will get headaches.And whats the reason you think Americans are obese? Because people here are advising you to eat more variety and saying food should be enjoyable?
No because this person seemed soooo shocked that it's possible to eat salad without dressing and have tea with nothing in it. Food is enjoyable to me. I don't know why everyone is assuming it's not just because they don't personally like the foods I eat.
Anyway, as for the protein thing, this morning I had to use up some food in my refrigerator before going away for Thanksgiving, so I had three scrambled eggs and a Greek yogurt for breakfast and unsweetened coconut milk. That's supposedly the "high protein/high fat/includes copious amounts of animal products" breakfast everyone is telling me to have...so we'll see if I'm hungry by 10:30 or not.-1 -
At this point, I think it's best to just let this thread go. Many people cannot eat what you eat every day, but overall, it seems to meet your macro goals, keeps you satiated, and you enjoy your food. If it works for you, that's all that matters (and it doesn't matter if it would work for me or anyone else).coruscatti wrote: »
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At this point, I think it's best to just let this thread go. Many people cannot eat what you eat every day, but overall, it seems to meet your macro goals, keeps you satiated, and you enjoy your food. If it works for you, that's all that matters (and it doesn't matter if it would work for me or anyone else).
Well some people brought up the possibility of long-term nutritional deficiencies developing and I was hoping to get comments more along the lines of that. Like what are some nutrient-rich foods I could add to make sure I get all the esoteric micro-nutrients like selenium and stuff that aren't even listed on MFP. Stuff like that.
Also stuff about balance of actual food groups. Like am I having too many nuts/legumes and what are the consequences of that. Or am I having too much dairy or not enough.
I guess I just expected to get more intelligent comments than "OMG YOUR DIET IS GROSS!!!!111"
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it is better than dry cheerios...coruscatti wrote: »
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coruscatti wrote: »At this point, I think it's best to just let this thread go. Many people cannot eat what you eat every day, but overall, it seems to meet your macro goals, keeps you satiated, and you enjoy your food. If it works for you, that's all that matters (and it doesn't matter if it would work for me or anyone else).
Well some people brought up the possibility of long-term nutritional deficiencies developing and I was hoping to get comments more along the lines of that. Like what are some nutrient-rich foods I could add to make sure I get all the esoteric micro-nutrients like selenium and stuff that aren't even listed on MFP. Stuff like that.
Also stuff about balance of actual food groups. Like am I having too many nuts/legumes and what are the consequences of that. Or am I having too much dairy or not enough.
I guess I just expected to get more intelligent comments than "OMG YOUR DIET IS GROSS!!!!111"
you asked for a rating, and received them.0 -
coruscatti wrote: »
Ummm no it's because you're supposed to drink 8 cups of water per day. Since I work in a lab I'm not allowed to eat or drink anything as I work and so I have to remember to actually go get water when I'm taking a break, or else I will get headaches.
the bit in bold is rubbish. there is NO scientific evidence that states this. you need a good amount of fluids in your diet. This can come from foods you eat or indeed ANY form of drink including tea and coffee.
as to your diet, it's not to my taste, but it's healthy enough.
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girlinahat wrote: »the bit in bold is rubbish. there is NO scientific evidence that states this. you need a good amount of fluids in your diet. This can come from foods you eat or indeed ANY form of drink including tea and coffee.
as to your diet, it's not to my taste, but it's healthy enough.
Ok well I didn't know that but MFP says to drink 8 cups of water per day (I'm assuming they mean cups as in "1-cup measurements," not as "glasses") so that's what I've been going by. I've never heard that this wasn't backed up by scientific evidence...but in any case it seems to be a good metric for me to go by.
Also I count any fluid as "water" when listing water intake.0 -
Just one more comment before I get back to work: just think about it for a second. How would you feel if you were a person who was trying to get their diet together and stay healthy, and people made a bunch of nasty and unhelpful comments to you about how your diet is "gross" and "unappetizing" and "random and monotonous" and "a negative 10 out of 10" (I really doubt that, to me negative 10 out of 10 would be eating nothing but ice cream). Wouldn't you feel hurt too? And like maybe people on this forum were just out to tear you down and make you feel bad about your diet choices?
Some people on this forum really need to learn how to give CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. Or else just keep their opinions to themselves if they don't have anything helpful or intelligent to say.-3 -
coruscatti wrote: »Just one more comment before I get back to work: just think about it for a second. How would you feel if you were a person who was trying to get their diet together and stay healthy, and people made a bunch of nasty and unhelpful comments to you about how your diet is "gross" and "unappetizing" and "random and monotonous" and "a negative 10 out of 10" (I really doubt that, to me negative 10 out of 10 would be eating nothing but ice cream). Wouldn't you feel hurt too? And like maybe people on this forum were just out to tear you down and make you feel bad about your diet choices?
Some people on this forum really need to learn how to give CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. Or else just keep their opinions to themselves if they don't have anything helpful or intelligent to say.
dont post on PUBLIC forums if you dont want peoples OPINIONS.... :noway:-2 -
coruscatti wrote: »
No. She answered the question exactly how the question was worded. You asked a question. People are giving you their opinions (ratings, if you will) and then you don't want to take them seriously when it doesn't line up with what you want to hear. That tells me that the problem isn't them, it's your defensiveness.0 -
OP, if you'd wanted people to "rate" your diet based on whether it'll provide you with enough nutrients for example, you should have initially provided us with basic things like your stats, the amounts of each food you'd be eating (portion sizes/weights would have been useful so we could calculate the macros ourselves), any food allergies, your goals, et cetera. What we were given were specific food items in a seemingly rigid diet plan, and we rated them as they were, for what they were. And you said yourself, a negative 10 would be nothing but ice cream, but for someone who loves ice cream and could make ice cream fit their macros? That would be a 10/10 for him/her, as opposed to your negative rating. So please don't get agitated at the literal ratings.0
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TavistockToad wrote: »coruscatti wrote: »Just one more comment before I get back to work: just think about it for a second. How would you feel if you were a person who was trying to get their diet together and stay healthy, and people made a bunch of nasty and unhelpful comments to you about how your diet is "gross" and "unappetizing" and "random and monotonous" and "a negative 10 out of 10" (I really doubt that, to me negative 10 out of 10 would be eating nothing but ice cream). Wouldn't you feel hurt too? And like maybe people on this forum were just out to tear you down and make you feel bad about your diet choices?
Some people on this forum really need to learn how to give CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. Or else just keep their opinions to themselves if they don't have anything helpful or intelligent to say.
dont post on PUBLIC forums if you dont want peoples OPINIONS.... :noway:
I'd like to add: No one here was being nasty either. It's just people have thin skin these days.
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ithrowconfetti wrote: »OP, if you'd wanted people to "rate" your diet based on whether it'll provide you with enough nutrients for example, you should have initially provided us with basic things like your stats, the amounts of each food you'd be eating (portion sizes/weights would have been useful so we could calculate the macros ourselves), any food allergies, your goals, et cetera. What we were given were specific food items in a seemingly rigid diet plan, and we rated them as they were, for what they were.
QFT!!!!!
I'm just waiting for a mean people thread from the OP now....0 -
jasonmh630 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »coruscatti wrote: »Just one more comment before I get back to work: just think about it for a second. How would you feel if you were a person who was trying to get their diet together and stay healthy, and people made a bunch of nasty and unhelpful comments to you about how your diet is "gross" and "unappetizing" and "random and monotonous" and "a negative 10 out of 10" (I really doubt that, to me negative 10 out of 10 would be eating nothing but ice cream). Wouldn't you feel hurt too? And like maybe people on this forum were just out to tear you down and make you feel bad about your diet choices?
Some people on this forum really need to learn how to give CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. Or else just keep their opinions to themselves if they don't have anything helpful or intelligent to say.
dont post on PUBLIC forums if you dont want peoples OPINIONS.... :noway:
I'd like to add: No one here was being nasty either. It's just people have thin skin these days.
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coruscatti wrote: »For breakfast I will have one serving of lentils with half a tablespoon of extra virgin olive oil, a plain nonfat Chobani Greek yogurt with a bit of cinnamon and an unripe banana cut up on top (I only like unripe bananas), two cups of leafy greens, and water to drink.
Morning snack will be one cup of Cheerios, with water as needed.
Lunch will be two slices of toasted whole-grain bread, half a serving of raw almonds, one mozzarella cheese stick, some "junk food" item worth ~80-120 calories, and water to drink flavored with True Lemon or True Lime. I may also bring some vegetables to snack on with mustard as "dip," especially when my office moves to a new building that actually has a break room with refrigerator.
Afternoon snack will be half a serving of wasabi peas, with water as needed.
Dinner will vary but will generally consist of a protein (lean chicken/turkey, eggs, tofu, beans, or steak), a starch (usually pasta, but sometimes brown rice or pearl barley), and a leafy greens/tomato salad or other vegetable.
Dessert will be tea, herbal tea, unsweetened coconut milk, or unsweetened hot cocoa made with baking cocoa.
Anyway, let me know what you think!
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Love the idea of lentils for breakfast. I would personnally make a herby yogurt sauce with the greek yogurt (and I would take one that have fat) to pour over de lentils and I would drizzle the olive oil over, so the breakfast would be on the savory side, but this is my personal taste. I usually eat omelet or morning wraps made with leftover protein or egg whites and cheese, with hot sauce.
Cheerios is a good snacking snack, but it's not a fueling snack. I would switch to something that won't be processed as soon as you've ate it, a good combination of protein and carbs. I often eat soup in the morning (last week soup was an hearty chicken noodle soup that was around 150 cals a cup and provided 22g of protein because of the chicken and the homemade broth), but an apple with peanut butter and honey, some string cheese with Goldfish or a half a can of flavored tuna with crackers are good choices for me.
Your lunch looks boring and I would feel seriously deprived without proteins, I don't know how you can fight the 3 o'clock office fatigue without eating something that will be digested all the afternoon. I usually ate leftovers from the night before. Today, it's half a pound of shrimps in spicy sauce with a little crusty bread and a handful of arugula.
See previous comments about your snack. Wasabi peas are a nice snack to munch on, but it will never get me through dinner. You should try to find the wasabi soy beans that have a better nutritional value, at least. I, for myself, eat my greek yogurt in the afternoon. 2% or 4% fat, depending on what was on special at the grocery store.
Dinner looks ok and pretty balanced.
In general, I think that this diet is a little carb heavy (based on my own nutrient ratios) and there isn't as much protein as I like to eat to feel energized. Snacks needs a serious revision. You would benefit from more variety.
I rate your diet a 6 out of 10.
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Luckily I am close to my goal weight, but what if you made comments about someone's diet being "disgusting" when they were just starting out? You could really discourage someone.
Food speaks to who we are in many ways. The food you eat indicates your socioeconomic status, overall health levels, weight, and even culture. Therefore when you say the food someone eats is "disgusting," in a way, you are saying that THEY are disgusting.
And anyone with half a brain in their heads should have realized that I wasn't looking for personal opinions, but for informed opinions from a nutrition standpoint. Can someone tell me why they think I or anyone else would care about whether random people think the foods they eat TASTE good?-3 -
coruscatti wrote: »Some people on this forum really need to learn how to give CONSTRUCTIVE criticism.
I just rated your diet with constructive comments, suggestions and examples, and you didn't bother answering something.
You're not interested in constructive criticism, you're interested in fighting people over the internet.
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coruscatti wrote: »And anyone with half a brain in their heads should have realized that I wasn't looking for personal opinions, but for informed opinions from a nutrition standpoint. Can someone tell me why they think I or anyone else would care about whether random people think the foods they eat TASTE good?
That is ABSOLUTELY what I get from a thread called 'rate my diet plan!' :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:0 -
walk awaycoruscatti wrote: »Luckily I am close to my goal weight, but what if you made comments about someone's diet being "disgusting" when they were just starting out? You could really discourage someone.
Food speaks to who we are in many ways. The food you eat indicates your socioeconomic status, overall health levels, weight, and even culture. Therefore when you say the food someone eats is "disgusting," in a way, you are saying that THEY are disgusting.
And anyone with half a brain in their heads should have realized that I wasn't looking for personal opinions, but for informed opinions from a nutrition standpoint. Can someone tell me why they think I or anyone else would care about whether random people think the foods they eat TASTE good?
seriously
time to abandon thread
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DaivaSimone wrote: »
I just rated your diet with constructive comments, suggestions and examples, and you didn't bother answering something.
You're not interested in constructive criticism, you're interested in fighting people over the internet.
I did see your post but I didn't have enough time to read and respond to it thoroughly the last time I posted, since I was just on the way to lunch.
I do think you gave good suggestions. I really like the breakfast suggestion to make the yogurt into a sauce. It might even work on chicken...have to experiment. And it would probably be good with cayenne pepper in it.
The main reason why my lunch and snacks have to be so "boring" is because we don't have a refrigerator at work (hopefully that will change when we move to a new building in January) and so everything has to be nonperishable. I've tried icepacks but they all melt way before lunchtime and I don't entirely trust them to keep the food cold anyway. And I go out for lunch sometimes (today for example) but can't afford to every day.
I've tried to find foods that I can keep out of the fridge but it's hard...mainly just ends up being cheese and nuts. I brought a can of tuna to work a couple of times but I don't want to eat tuna regularly because of mercury. Plus it tends to get everywhere when you open it, and as I said no break room = no sink to drain it in.
I guess I could have the yogurt later in the day though, since it is supposed to keep for several hours at room temp. I did that a couple of times.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »That is ABSOLUTELY what I get from a thread called 'rate my diet plan!' :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Ok then you need to go back to middle school and learn the difference between denotation and connotation
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You're not logging consistently. You're logging three days in a row, then you stop, then you start again. Constancy in logging, even when you're over, even on cheat days, is the only way to have an accurate portrait of your food intake. I will start with that.
When you're over your calorie goals, you're often over in the carbs department, and under everywhere else. Carbs, especially refined carbs, spike insulin and glucose in your blood, which can cause cravings. Try to up your protein intake a little bit to see if it makes a difference.0 -
If you're concerned about mercury in tuna, you probably want to avoid brown rice due to high arsenic levels.
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2012/11/arsenic-in-your-food/index.htm#chart
Otherwise, check your macros and calorie levels. Eating the same food every day will probably leave you lacking something. Take a vitamin pill daily.0
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