Going over sugar when eating fruit
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »johnnylakis wrote: »Sugar from fruit is always better than processed sugar. In fact, and you can ask any doctor, if you cut out all processed sugar you can eat unlimited fruit. Been there, done that, lost weight!
So, you're saying that if I eat 20 large bananas per day (about 136g each, 121 calsd) then I won't gain weight? Even though that's 2,420 cals, and my TDEE is only about 2000? Those extra 420 cals aren't going to do anything? Really?
You would gain weight from not being able to poop for a month.
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The grapes was the last thing I gave up until I get my calories down enough to lose weight. They are so good.0
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christinev297 wrote: »I thought the fibre in fruit stops the sugar spikes because it's digested slower? ?
#notallfruit - sorry, couldn't resist.
Sugar is sugar, regardless of source in terms of weight loss. If you are concerned about diabetes though, then yes - different sources of sugar/simple carbohydrates have different effects on your blood sugar levels. It's more important to look at the glycemic index (GI) and the glycemic load (GL) of a food to understand these effects.
For example:
1 serving of grapes (1 cup = 40 grapes) has a GI of 66, which is moderately high, and a GL of 47, also moderately high. So it would be a good idea to combine this food with a source of fat or protein (say a piece of cheese) to further decrease its GI/GL. Bonus points: it may help you feel more full and satisfied
decreasing the need for further snacking.
For further reading: here's a good article that explains the importance of GI/GL and counting carbs for people who are concerned about diabetes.
http://www.diabetesselfmanagement.com/articles/nutrition-and-meal-planning/carbohydrate-counting-glycemic-index-and-glycemic-load-putting-them-all-together/all/
"The glycemic index of a food is a ranking (from 0 to 100) of how much it raises blood glucose level after it is eaten. A number of things affect a food’s glycemic index, including the type of starch it contains, the type of fiber it contains, and how finely milled or broken down the grain kernels, beans, or seeds are. Luckily for consumers, lists of commonly consumed foods and their glycemic index values are readily available.
The glycemic load of a serving of food puts together its carbohydrate content and its glycemic index to give a more accurate estimate of how much it will affect blood glucose level. Once you know a food’s glycemic index and the carbohydrate content of the amount you plan to eat, it’s fairly easy to calculate your portion’s glycemic load."
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Unless you have a medical issue with sugar, diagnosed from a medical professional, don't worry about it.0
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »johnnylakis wrote: »Sugar from fruit is always better than processed sugar. In fact, and you can ask any doctor, if you cut out all processed sugar you can eat unlimited fruit. Been there, done that, lost weight!
So, you're saying that if I eat 20 large bananas per day (about 136g each, 121 calsd) then I won't gain weight? Even though that's 2,420 cals, and my TDEE is only about 2000? Those extra 420 cals aren't going to do anything? Really?
You would gain weight from not being able to poop for a month.
I've been on the 30 bananas a day diet. You poop. Oh boy do you poop!0 -
4 calories a gramralph124c41 wrote: »Sugar is sugar as far as calories are concerned. 6 calories/gram.
The health effects of sugar are far more complex (and less well known) than is usually admitted.
blogs.scientificamerican.com/brainwaves/2013/07/15/is-sugar-really-toxic-sifting-through-the-evidence/
IMO, binging on any food is not good. We need to eat a balanced diet, including carbohydrates, proteins and, yes, even fats, and limit the number of calories to no more than we burn.
Hunh…I had 6 cal/gram stuck in my head from somewhere. Gotta clean out the cobwebs occasionally.
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »I wonder if 6 calorie sugar would be any sweeter than 4 calorie sugar.
No, it has more fat in it.0 -
christinev297 wrote: »I thought the fibre in fruit stops the sugar spikes because it's digested slower? ?
nope, science says that doesn't happen. The blood glucose curve for the first 30 - 60 mins is the same for fruit, juice or puree.
Unless you're eating sugar out of a bowl then all the other foods containing sugar also have fibre, fat and protein that may influence digestion rates.0 -
I don't pay attention to sugar because the majority of mine comes from natural foods. Processed sugary foods are usually full of chemicals and junk. It is easy to sit down and eat a bowl of small candy bars because I just keep wanting more and more. But a whole bowl of grapes? Not going to happen! That is usually why people caution against sugar...0
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johnnylakis wrote: »Sugar from fruit is always better than processed sugar. In fact, and you can ask any doctor, if you cut out all processed sugar you can eat unlimited fruit. Been there, done that, lost weight!
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^^^^^^^^^ for a while my life consisted of eating only bananas and medjool dates. Gained 8 lbs. Thanks but no thanks Freelee!0
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I don't pay attention to sugar because the majority of mine comes from natural foods. Processed sugary foods are usually full of chemicals and junk. It is easy to sit down and eat a bowl of small candy bars because I just keep wanting more and more. But a whole bowl of grapes? Not going to happen! That is usually why people caution against sugar...
After about three of those things my stomach begins to turn. You must have an iron stomach to be able to eat a bowl of small candy bars and still want more.0 -
Heh!SnuggleSmacks wrote: »johnnylakis wrote: »Sugar from fruit is always better than processed sugar. In fact, and you can ask any doctor, if you cut out all processed sugar you can eat unlimited fruit. Been there, done that, lost weight!
So, you're saying that if I eat 20 large bananas per day (about 136g each, 121 calsd) then I won't gain weight? Even though that's 2,420 cals, and my TDEE is only about 2000? Those extra 420 cals aren't going to do anything? Really?
You would gain weight from not being able to poop for a month.
Nothing wrong with eating just bananas and dates, you obvs just ate too much.Laurend224 wrote: »^^^^^^^^^ for a while my life consisted of eating only bananas and medjool dates. Gained 8 lbs. Thanks but no thanks Freelee!0 -
christinev297 wrote: »I thought the fibre in fruit stops the sugar spikes because it's digested slower? ?
nope, science says that doesn't happen. The blood glucose curve for the first 30 - 60 mins is the same for fruit, juice or puree.
Unless you're eating sugar out of a bowl then all the other foods containing sugar also have fibre, fat and protein that may influence digestion rates.
dammit lol Thanks for your reply!
I'm sticking to eating plenty of fruit. It's summer here, and fresh yummy fruit is everywhere
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I go over my sugar budget everyday because I eat lots of fruit. If its sugar from processed foods then I would worry but if it is sugar mainly from fruits then you are fine. As long as you are still within you caloric range you should be fine.0
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