Study: Subway Sandwiches Are Worse Than We Think
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I go to Subway and order a Veggie Delight Sandwich or Veggie Delight Salad.
Just figure up your calories and you will be fine, there is nothing wrong about Subway.
Aside from the fact that it tastes like absolute *kitten*, no, nothing excessively wrong. Lol.
Tastes better than chia seeds and sugar-free pudding.
False. Chia seeds actually are flavorless and don't taste like anything at all, and sugar free pudding is ****ing delicious. I really can't tell the difference between SF and regular.
It's cute how you try to to stalk my diary, though.
I didn't "try to stalk" your diary. I looked at some of the things you ate so I could make fun of how they taste, the way you made fun of how some of the food I eat tastes.
If you can criticize my food, I can criticize yours
I didn't personally criticize anything you eat. You, however did, by taking time to delve into what I eat. I have no idea if you eat Subway, nor would I give enough sh!ts to go out of my way to find out by spying into your diary. Creeper. Aaaaand all my food is delicious. So you fail. :flowerforyou:0 -
I seriously have my doubts that people who eat at fast food restarurants once a week are counting calories. I guess they are trying to be healthy after all when they order a Big Mac, large fries and then get a diet coke they are trying to save a few calories (Sarcasm intended).
I eat at Mr. Sub (Canadian Subway essentially) approximately 5 days a week. I get a free meal when I work and I take advantage of that. The only difference being that I know exactly what to make to make the most of my calories. Aside from the veggie at Mr. Sub, the next best thing you can order is the roast beef!0 -
I go to Subway and order a Veggie Delight Sandwich or Veggie Delight Salad.
Just figure up your calories and you will be fine, there is nothing wrong about Subway.
Aside from the fact that it tastes like absolute *kitten*, no, nothing excessively wrong. Lol.
Tastes better than chia seeds and sugar-free pudding.
False. Chia seeds actually are flavorless and don't taste like anything at all, and sugar free pudding is ****ing delicious. I really can't tell the difference between SF and regular.
It's cute how you try to to stalk my diary, though.
I didn't "try to stalk" your diary. I looked at some of the things you ate so I could make fun of how they taste, the way you made fun of how some of the food I eat tastes.
If you can criticize my food, I can criticize yours
I didn't personally criticize anything you eat. You, however did, by taking time to delve into what I eat. I have no idea if you eat Subway, nor would I give enough sh!ts to go out of my way to find out by spying into your diary. Creeper. Aaaaand all my food is delicious. So you fail. :flowerforyou:
You said Subway tastes like *kitten*. Well, I like Subway. I think sugar-free pudding tastes like *kitten*. You like sugar-free pudding.
See? We're even
Also: How is it "creeper" for someone to look at your public food diary?0 -
The one thing I've learnt is that if I go to Subway I need to order a footlong as a 6" will more than likely mean my dinner needs to be 1,500 calories (or 2,500 calories if I want to maintain for the day).0
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Subway has some of the worst tasting food on the planet. By far the worst bread of any place ive ever been.
Yeah, I cannot stand the smell enough to even go in there, so gross. I read that smell is something with the bread proofing, I dunno.
Anyway, I don't think it's any surprise people underestimate how many calories they're eating, especially when we eat things that have so many different ingredients in them. Added sugars, starches, all that stuff adds up. Plus in general people seem to be crap for knowing what a regular portion size is.
It's the yeast in the bread. Bread is panned from frozen dough, it's then proofed overnight (or all day) in a bread rack, then goes into a big automatic proofer (this is upfront, usually under the ovens) until it is puffy and big but not touching other breads yet, then bakes up top in the oven for approx 20 minutes.
Good to know. I'm glad for that god awful smell, though, because before it started getting to me I would roll into there and get 2 footlongs happily. Brr, thankfully that was a long time ago.
I know what you mean, I used to live next to a 24 hour Subway and being a poor student would eat there when I wasn't working (I get free food at work since I work at a sub shop LOL) and Subway was cheaper than getting groceries because I could make a 12" stretch lunch and dinner. I still eat there sometimes, but only because they carry spinach and my work doesn't and also because it's the healthiest option when travelling for me. They use A LOT of yeast in their bread because it's about turn-around. They need bread fast, and lots of it. Hence the sickly sweet smell.0 -
This makes me want Subway for dinner. And yeah I'm better at estimating calories now than six months ago- but how good at it were most of us before logging diligently? Sometimes to have a social life or a day that doesn't revolve entirely around food prepping you have to go out and eat. Subway at least offers some fresher options. If you get a 12" classic Italian w double meat and cheese- not a going to fit into most daily deficits- but if it does more power to you. I often go and get a 12" b/c that's lunch today and tomorrow!
So yeah most people suck at estimating calories, but I'd bet a chunk of us (see what I did there?) sucked at it too before MFP.0 -
I have just recently started letting myself have Subway (the only thing that I will eat that isn't made by me) again. I get a 6" Veggie Delite sub with wheat bread, no cheese, cucumbers, green peppers, lettuce, onions, spinach, jalapenos, and vinegar. The sub totals 220 calories when made like that. It is absolutely delicious. Just in case there are any veggie lovers looking for a way to enjoy a sub that doesn't total 1000 calories, ha.
Any food place can be bad. Understandably, if you order a meatball sub with cheese and get chips and a drink with it, it will be high in calories. But if you choose wisely, get apple slices as a side, and pair it with water, you can have food made quickly that is still healthy for you and low in calories.
Hope this helps someone!0 -
4000 calories? How do you do that?
2 foot long meatball subs with cheese, a bag of Doritos & a large Coke?
This isn't really all that shocking to me. People assume these things are healthy. I know some of it is from marketing, but it's like the people who think they're "dieting" because they eat a salad with their meal every night. You know, in addition to a big steak & potato, then drowned in ranch. Or people who are SHOCKED that a salad form a restaurant that has meat, eggs, bacon, cheese, avocado and dressing has 800 calories. Personally, if it's not on the "Under X amount of calories" menu, I look it up if it's something I want.
Yeah, I had a friend who would get salads like this because she was "dieting".
I couldn't convince her at all that there were less calories in a cheeseburger than the salad she was buying.0 -
This is how I like my subway sub.
http://www.nutritionix.com/m/VlZBaD
Great tool there actually...check it out.
Also, the problem isn't with subway, it's with the customers. Subway publishes their nutrition information. Buyer beware.0 -
I eat at Subway quite frequently. I typically go with the Veggie Delite chopped salad. I load up on all the veggies (minus black olive...bleck). Instead of dressings I usually tell them to douse it with a little red wine vinegar (virtually 0 cals, low sodium). If I do decide to indulge in a sub I get the Veggie Delite on wheat. I make sure to have them "scoop" out the center of the bread (not sure how many calories this saves). Load up the veggies and again...skip the sauce.0
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Not ALL food at Subway is bad for you. Yes, if you get a footlong with all sorts of junk on it, it's going to be high in cals, as with most places. This is why they have healthier options, like salads, light mayo and dressing, etc. I still love Subway, especially my oven roasted chicken! BTW, I wonder what race has to do with eating at these places?!0
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I fail to see where this study says that subway sandwiches are worse than we thought. All this tells me is that people have no idea how many calories are in what and can't even remotely estimate with any accuracy...not surprising...until I started actually counting them, I couldn't either. Now I can pretty much look at a plate of anything and give a relatively good estimate.
By the by...calorie dense =/= bad necessarily. My lunch is routinely in the 600-700 calorie range and I have a calorie goal to lose 0.5 Lbs per week.0 -
I agree, the occasional Subway is okay. I have a turkey, lettuce, tomato, bell pepper, black olive with onion sandwich with no sauces on occasion, 280 Calories. I view it as fast food and accept it for what it is. If you are looking for an inexpensive, quick, healthy meal - prepare it yourself.0
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Not ALL food at Subway is bad for you. Yes, if you get a footlong with all sorts of junk on it, it's going to be high in cals, as with most places. This is why they have healthier options, like salads, light mayo and dressing, etc. I still love Subway, especially my oven roasted chicken! BTW, I wonder what race has to do with eating at these places?!
High cals =/= "bad"0 -
I admit I underestimated Subway's calories as well. If a McDonald's grilled club sandwich that comes with cheese, bacon, lettuce, tomato, and plain bun is worth 350 calories, surely a 6" sub with grilled chicken, lettuce, tomato, onion, cheese and wheat bread would have less calories.
Wrong. The 6" sub is worth about 500 calories.0 -
I eat at Subway quite frequently. I typically go with the Veggie Delite chopped salad. I load up on all the veggies (minus black olive...bleck). Instead of dressings I usually tell them to douse it with a little red wine vinegar (virtually 0 cals, low sodium). If I do decide to indulge in a sub I get the Veggie Delite on wheat. I make sure to have them "scoop" out the center of the bread (not sure how many calories this saves). Load up the veggies and again...skip the sauce.
A veggie delite chopped salad with no olives and vinegar?
What is that, like 50 calories? Do you ever eat actual food?0 -
This is true. Jimmy Johns is MUCH better.0
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I admit I underestimated Subway's calories as well. If a McDonald's grilled club sandwich that comes with cheese, bacon, lettuce, tomato, and plain bun is worth 350 calories, surely a 6" sub with grilled chicken, lettuce, tomato, onion, cheese and wheat bread would have less calories.
Wrong. The 6" sub is worth about 500 calories.
The grilled club sandwich from McD's with cheese, bacon, lettuce, and tomato is 460 calories.
An oven roasted chicken sandwich with lettuce, tomato, onion, and cheese from Subway is 360 calories.
Before you put anything at all on them (bread+meat only), the oven roasted chicken breast on wheat at Subway is 320, while the grilled chicken at McD's is 300.0 -
Not ALL food at Subway is bad for you. Yes, if you get a footlong with all sorts of junk on it, it's going to be high in cals, as with most places. This is why they have healthier options, like salads, light mayo and dressing, etc. I still love Subway, especially my oven roasted chicken! BTW, I wonder what race has to do with eating at these places?!
High cals =/= "bad"
The way to go is 6 inches! Why would anyone want to stuff 12 inches of BREAD into their bodies!?!?!?!
This is how I roll................:bigsmile:
6 inches
Oven roasted chicken
cheese
spinach
onion
tomato
pickels green pepper
cuccumber
Chipotle Mayo.
The end!:bigsmile:0 -
So it's not that Subway, McDonald's or other fast food restaurants are worse than we think, it's that people suck at estimating calories? Oh, that's why I usually look up nutrition information prior to going places like that. :ohwell:
This. Subs are no more inherently bad than anything else. They post all of their information online and you can look it up anytime.0 -
I've been doing a 6" double meat oven roasted chicken breast with spinach, tomato, and brown mustard. Around 430 calories with 40 grams of protein. Yum.
You have to do double meat. They charge more, but so worth it.0 -
Fiarly easy to estimate the calories with a little education. All of the chains in our area are now also required to list calorie counts along side the menu items on the boards. What they don't list is all the crap - i.e., condiments - that can go on it. Add full fat ranch dressing or mayo and the calorie counts soar. I've actually had them make me a new sandwich when they doused mine in sweet onion sauce when I asked for a dash of it. It's about making educated choices. The fact that most Americans as illustrated by this study are not educated is not really a surprising result.
This post also reminds me of the overly nourished person in line in front of me who ordered the 6" veggie delight at subway with all the right stuff on it - none of the dressing, etc. while holding a large milkshake from Chick Fil A in her other hand. Just had to shake my head and made my informed order behind her.0 -
I seriously have my doubts that people who eat at fast food restarurants once a week are counting calories. I guess they are trying to be healthy after all when they order a Big Mac, large fries and then get a diet coke they are trying to save a few calories (Sarcasm intended).
I eat fast food at least once a week. I always log, and I've lost 55 pounds. I now make better choices; not great choices, but better.0 -
I've been doing a 6" double meat oven roasted chicken breast with spinach, tomato, and brown mustard. Around 430 calories with 40 grams of protein. Yum.
You have to do double meat. They charge more, but so worth it.
My standard order. Great minds think alike
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Fiarly easy to estimate the calories with a little education. All of the chains in our area are now also required to list calorie counts along side the menu items on the boards. What they don't list is all the crap - i.e., condiments - that can go on it. Add full fat ranch dressing or mayo and the calorie counts soar. I've actually had them make me a new sandwich when they doused mine in sweet onion sauce when I asked for a dash of it. It's about making educated choices. The fact that most Americans as illustrated by this study are not educated is not really a surprising result.
This post also reminds me of the overly nourished person in line in front of me who ordered the 6" veggie delight at subway with all the right stuff on it - none of the dressing, etc. while holding a large milkshake from Chick Fil A in her other hand. Just had to shake my head and made my informed order behind her.
And you have no idea if that milkshake fit into her day. I realize a large shake has a ton of calories, so it probably didn't. But I have not become one of those who judge.0 -
People do suck at estimating calories, but the truth of the matter is that cooks in restaurants (not Subway, so much), in real life, prepare things in an assembly line fashion. They are not being careful to make the portions perfect in according to the calorie counts that customers read, they make them to look consistent. I'm not knocking cooks, I was one for quite some time, but it's just put together as quickly as possible. They measure in pinches and handfuls much of the time, and it's not like they are leveling off little measuring cups of cheese or what have you as it's prepared. Meat is often portioned out by weight, but everything else is "eyeballed".0
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Fiarly easy to estimate the calories with a little education. All of the chains in our area are now also required to list calorie counts along side the menu items on the boards. What they don't list is all the crap - i.e., condiments - that can go on it. Add full fat ranch dressing or mayo and the calorie counts soar. I've actually had them make me a new sandwich when they doused mine in sweet onion sauce when I asked for a dash of it. It's about making educated choices. The fact that most Americans as illustrated by this study are not educated is not really a surprising result.
This post also reminds me of the overly nourished person in line in front of me who ordered the 6" veggie delight at subway with all the right stuff on it - none of the dressing, etc. while holding a large milkshake from Chick Fil A in her other hand. Just had to shake my head and made my informed order behind her.
This only bugs me because, while I understand how it looks to people, why should someone just go all the way either direction with their diet? If I break a plate while washing the dishes, I don't go, "Welp, looks like I might as well break all of them now."0 -
A 4,000 calorie meal seems impossible.
Foot long chicken bacon ranch melt: 1140 calories... Make that double meat ....add 840 calories add extra mayo 300 calories extra cheese 120 calories, olive oil on your veggies 100 calories... so for your sandwich it's 2500 calories.
Why yes, I'll have a bag of chips with that. Fritos.... that's 280 calories.
To drink.. you have a 12 ounce chocolate milk.. but you're a BIG boy (or girl) and you have a BIG sandwich, so you'd better get two of them.. that's 600 calories in the two flavored milks
Now for dessert. I don't know if they still are, but the cookies used to be 3/$1.00 so if you get three cookies that's 660 calories.
That's 4040 calories... Now if you wanted to start your meal off with an 8 ounce chili, you'd be up to 4670 calories!!!
Granted, most of us couldn't eat like this.. but it's still one sandwich, 24 ounces of drink, one bag of chips and dessert... there definitely ARE people out there who CAN eat like this!0 -
The one thing I will criticize Subway for is the way they slather on the mayo. The website assumes 1 tablespoon of mayo. They put on at least 3 or 4, in my experience. That's the difference between 60 cals and 240 cals. Even if you're carefully checking the website, if you don't pay attention there you could be consuming almost 200 more calories than you think.
I always ask for a single 'line' of mayo, which is about a TBSP on a six inch sub.
Hey that's a great tip, thanks. People interpret my 'teeny bit of mayo' in different ways.0 -
I stand corrected, the McD club is indeed 460 cals.I admit I underestimated Subway's calories as well. If a McDonald's grilled club sandwich that comes with cheese, bacon, lettuce, tomato, and plain bun is worth 350 calories, surely a 6" sub with grilled chicken, lettuce, tomato, onion, cheese and wheat bread would have less calories.
Wrong. The 6" sub is worth about 500 calories.
The grilled club sandwich from McD's with cheese, bacon, lettuce, and tomato is 460 calories.
An oven roasted chicken sandwich with lettuce, tomato, onion, and cheese from Subway is 360 calories.
Before you put anything at all on them (bread+meat only), the oven roasted chicken breast on wheat at Subway is 320, while the grilled chicken at McD's is 300.
Bottom line is I now approach Subway just like any other fast food place: carefully.0
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