Can You Be Overweight and Healthy?
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Well, I know I couldn't, because 2 years at 198 lbs, and 10 years bouncing between 150 and 180, already did a number on my joints. I'd rather stay as light as I safely can.
For sure. I was only a little overweight at 165 lbs (just a touch over 25 BMI) and it definitely had an impact on my joints and how much they ached from the extra weight. Now my knees feel fine.0 -
snackmophant wrote: »Well, I know I couldn't, because 2 years at 198 lbs, and 10 years bouncing between 150 and 180, already did a number on my joints. I'd rather stay as light as I safely can.
For sure. I was only a little overweight at 165 lbs (just a touch over 25 BMI) and it definitely had an impact on my joints and how much they ached from the extra weight. Now my knees feel fine.
I'm over 50 and have weighed more than 165 lbs for many years, but I've never had any joint problems. Did you have any other conditions other than weight? Do you know what your BF% was when you were overweight?0 -
Glad your knees feel better!
Re the original article - an extended lifespan is one thing, but the quality of those 'extra' years might not be amazing if you're dealing with the long-term effects of "lifestyle". I've seen older people who have severely limited mobility because of arthritis (can't leave the house), whose bodies are worn out by the effects of high blood pressure, diabetes etc (and the side effects of the various meds they have to take to keep going) - they're tired all the time, they just don't feel good.0 -
Glad your knees feel better!
Re the original article - an extended lifespan is one thing, but the quality of those 'extra' years might not be amazing if you're dealing with the long-term effects of "lifestyle". I've seen older people who have severely limited mobility because of arthritis (can't leave the house), whose bodies are worn out by the effects of high blood pressure, diabetes etc (and the side effects of the various meds they have to take to keep going) - they're tired all the time, they just don't feel good.
You are not describing healthy people though. The article certainly doesn't suggest that being overweight will make you healthy, and isn't just about lifespan.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »snackmophant wrote: »Well, I know I couldn't, because 2 years at 198 lbs, and 10 years bouncing between 150 and 180, already did a number on my joints. I'd rather stay as light as I safely can.
For sure. I was only a little overweight at 165 lbs (just a touch over 25 BMI) and it definitely had an impact on my joints and how much they ached from the extra weight. Now my knees feel fine.
I'm over 50 and have weighed more than 165 lbs for many years, but I've never had any joint problems. Did you have any other conditions other than weight? Do you know what your BF% was when you were overweight?
Nope! No idea the BF%. I would just get more fatigued in my joints from the extra weight. I couldn't walk for a whole two hours straight like I can now.
I decided to lose weight a few years ago seeing my dad's side of the family (overweight and diabetic) and realizing I was going in the same direction as them. I stopped blaming my fat on "genetics" and did something about it. I don't want diabetes.0 -
Here's a study on the BMI index charted against mortality.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25126085
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Here's a study on the BMI index charted against mortality.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25126085
Is that a study? It didn't really say what it was they were studying or how or what their conclusion was.0 -
snackmophant wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »snackmophant wrote: »Well, I know I couldn't, because 2 years at 198 lbs, and 10 years bouncing between 150 and 180, already did a number on my joints. I'd rather stay as light as I safely can.
For sure. I was only a little overweight at 165 lbs (just a touch over 25 BMI) and it definitely had an impact on my joints and how much they ached from the extra weight. Now my knees feel fine.
I'm over 50 and have weighed more than 165 lbs for many years, but I've never had any joint problems. Did you have any other conditions other than weight? Do you know what your BF% was when you were overweight?
Nope! No idea the BF%. I would just get more fatigued in my joints from the extra weight. I couldn't walk for a whole two hours straight like I can now.
Do you think if you had walked every day that you would not eventually be able to walk 2 hours without pain, even without weight loss? I guess there is no real way to know unless you lost weight without exercise and then tried the walk.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Here's a study on the BMI index charted against mortality.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25126085
Is that a study? It didn't really say what it was they were studying or how or what their conclusion was.
It's a review article, a big clue is a single author. Further down in the abstract it says "this review".0 -
I think you can be healthy for awhile. It will catch up to you though. It puts you at such a higher risk for so many things.0
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BMI is bunk data though. Reference vs. a real parameter, bf%.
Hi guys, I was looking at BMI...
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My mistake. Thank you Auddli for clarifying.
I'm obviously not a researcher. I figure that if I can stay near the bottom of that U shaped curve my chances of meeting an early death may be diminished.
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Well there's a suggestion that being overweight is associated with living longer:Relative to normal weight, both obesity (all grades) and grades 2 and 3 obesity were associated with significantly higher all-cause mortality. Grade 1 obesity overall was not associated with higher mortality, and overweight was associated with significantly lower all-cause mortality. The use of predefined standard BMI groupings can facilitate between-study comparisons.
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1555137#Abstract
Edit: and it looks like this is being discussed already...0 -
My mistake. Thank you Auddli for clarifying.
I'm obviously not a researcher. I figure that if I can stay near the bottom of that U shaped curve my chances of meeting an early death may be diminished.
I'd agree that staying near the bottom of the curve will increase your chances of being healthy, and while we may be healthy at higher weights, we should probably all strive to try and improve ourselves.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »Can you smoke and not develop lung cancer? Definately! But the risk is much higher, so why risk it? Being overweight increases the risk of heart disease and diabetes, so why risk it?
Does it really? The article seems to suggest that it's not always so.
The article is not from a peer-reviewed database so take the information provided with a grain of salt.0 -
My mistake. Thank you Auddli for clarifying.
I'm obviously not a researcher. I figure that if I can stay near the bottom of that U shaped curve my chances of meeting an early death may be diminished.
I'd agree that staying near the bottom of the curve will increase your chances of being healthy, and while we may be healthy at higher weights, we should probably all strive to try and improve ourselves.
I think this is a reasonable position.
I'd rather get the odds as much in my favour as I realistically can.
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »Can you smoke and not develop lung cancer? Definately! But the risk is much higher, so why risk it? Being overweight increases the risk of heart disease and diabetes, so why risk it?
Does it really? The article seems to suggest that it's not always so.
The article is not from a peer-reviewed database so take the information provided with a grain of salt.
It references peer reviewed studies so I don't see why the article would be suspect. I would imagine this doctor is more qualified to interpret the research than most of us.0 -
My mistake. Thank you Auddli for clarifying.
I'm obviously not a researcher. I figure that if I can stay near the bottom of that U shaped curve my chances of meeting an early death may be diminished.
I'd agree that staying near the bottom of the curve will increase your chances of being healthy, and while we may be healthy at higher weights, we should probably all strive to try and improve ourselves.
I think this is a reasonable position.
I'd rather get the odds as much in my favour as I realistically can.
But if statistics say the odds aren't greater by being at the lower end, what makes you think they are?0 -
My P.E teacher at school was fit he played professional rugby died in his 30s of heart attack yet my dad who ate junk drank and smoked lived til he was 63 my teacher died suddenly my dad spent a year dying slowly and painfully. There will always be exceptions but I do think you can be overweight as in high BMI and healthy ( weight lifters) but in general I think health is more important exercise drink water and eat balanced0
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »Can you smoke and not develop lung cancer? Definately! But the risk is much higher, so why risk it? Being overweight increases the risk of heart disease and diabetes, so why risk it?
Does it really? The article seems to suggest that it's not always so.
The article is not from a peer-reviewed database so take the information provided with a grain of salt.
It references peer reviewed studies so I don't see why the article would be suspect. I would imagine this doctor is more qualified to interpret the research than most of us.
Reviews are simply that, opinion articles, unless subjected to peer scrutiny and review.
We get the same thing in the editorial section of the newspaper.0
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