Concealed Carriers
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I have a similar problem... the .357 mag I carry is bulky, but it's reliable and accurate. I have a hard time concealing it, but really you probably are more sensitive to the bulge your firearm creates than anyone else. You know it's there so you assume everyone else will know what that bulge is. You are legal so ultimately, it doesn't matter if anyone knows or not.
Carry with confidence dearie.
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Ok! I do not carry.
Daughter does because of her job and she has to carry at all times (except on international flights).
She is 5'9" and weighs approximately 118 lbs (somewhere around a size 2). That being said, her solution (most will not be able to do this) is to have her clothes talyored to her. I have yet to notice her 9mm klock creating any bulges. She also carrys a 32 cal in an ankle holster as her back up.
Might want to consider a couple of jackets/outer garmnets taylored to carry.
Just one ole man's opinion......................0 -
The Ruger LC9 is a very nice choice. I was looking at one myself0
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It must be terrible to go through life in constant fear someone is out to get you.
Are you saying you do not pay attention to your surroundings in a dark parking lot? Walk around with your money hanging out for people to see? Leave your purse at the table when you go to the bathroom?
It is not about living in constant fear - it is preventative and reasonable caution. I wear a seatbelt even though I am a "good" driver. I do not do it because I live in constant fear of being in a car accident. It is just common sense and what makes me feel comfortable and safe. And just like my firearm - it is simply a habit I no longer think about or question. I just do it.
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- I live in much less "fear" by carrying. In fact, I think about my safety WAY less now than I did before I carried. It is a just as much a reasonable precaution as walking through central park carrying mace, just in case you need it.
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- Seriously?
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I got my ccw a few years back as a precaution...as a real estate agent during the Phoenix housing crash, there were too many foreclosed houses that had squatters/drug addicts in them and I was running into them at least weekly. At first I used the Flash bang holster and it was fine for a small j frame. When I moved to a Glock 17, Flash bang didn't offer an under bra holster that would work so I carried openly (I live in AZ). I recently started carrying a 1911 and bought a crossbreed IWB supertuck that I wear in the small of my back. I wear tank tops most of the time and have had no issues with printing. It's not as easy to draw from as a hip holster but more practice will improve that.0
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irishman213 wrote: »The Ruger LC9 is a very nice choice. I was looking at one myself
This is my personal carry. Highly recommend. Small and powerful. Highly recommend getting the factory installed laser sight for added accuracy and speed in self-defense situation, worth the extra $90 or so.It must be terrible to go through life in constant fear someone is out to get you.
It must be nice to be so naive and trusting, thinking police are actually going to save you in a life and death situation. Far too many of those going on where I live to not be prepared to defend yourself. Cops exist to roll out crime scene tape, issue traffic tickets, and chase drug money. Nothing more. Safety is an illusion.
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I work in a Courthouse. Deal with felons on a daily basis. I carry day and night. I carry on me (most of the time) or in my purse. It's a concealed carry purse with a very easily accessible, built in holster (which also has a lock on the zipper, if I choose to use it). When It's in my purse, my purse is on my shoulder ALWAYS! The Flash-Bang holster seems like a good idea but, It sucks! Good luck getting your hand down your shirt and out without getting tangled up in the collar, etc. Not a good idea. I'd wear an ankle holster first.
Maybe we're thinking of different ones. But the flash bang, attaches at the center of the bra. All the videos shows lifting your shirt and going from under not over.
I plan on becoming a CC soon.
Either way, unholstering is not smooth.
I'm still looking at my options. What would you recommend looking at?0 -
I'm very happy for all of the Aussies who live in such a safe environment. Wait a second, didn't they make the news about a week ago? Darn, I guess anything can happen just about anywhere can't it? The point is you never know. I'd rather be carrying and not ever need it, than need it and not have it. Would you drive your car without a spare tire and tools just in case?0
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I work in a Courthouse. Deal with felons on a daily basis. I carry day and night. I carry on me (most of the time) or in my purse. It's a concealed carry purse with a very easily accessible, built in holster (which also has a lock on the zipper, if I choose to use it). When It's in my purse, my purse is on my shoulder ALWAYS! The Flash-Bang holster seems like a good idea but, It sucks! Good luck getting your hand down your shirt and out without getting tangled up in the collar, etc. Not a good idea. I'd wear an ankle holster first.
Maybe we're thinking of different ones. But the flash bang, attaches at the center of the bra. All the videos shows lifting your shirt and going from under not over.
I plan on becoming a CC soon.
I would suppose reach comes from the different type of neckline. However it's called the Flash-Bang because you reach UNDER your shirt, causing a "flash" of skin. When my husband and I watched the video I immediately saw a benefit in "flashing." It would make a guy pause (sexist? yes... but whatever).
With ANY holster you would want to practice so that when the need arises you are prepared to draw smoothly.
There was another holster that I found that was a lace wrap and the woman in the video had 8 or 9 different weapons beneath a tank top and a pair of yoga pants.
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I'm very happy for all of the Aussies who live in such a safe environment. Wait a second, didn't they make the news about a week ago? Darn, I guess anything can happen just about anywhere can't it? The point is you never know. I'd rather be carrying and not ever need it, than need it and not have it. Would you drive your car without a spare tire and tools just in case?
Don't you think the outcome of that situation could have ended a lot sooner if someone in that café had been carrying?!?!
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irishman213 wrote: »I'm very happy for all of the Aussies who live in such a safe environment. Wait a second, didn't they make the news about a week ago? Darn, I guess anything can happen just about anywhere can't it? The point is you never know. I'd rather be carrying and not ever need it, than need it and not have it. Would you drive your car without a spare tire and tools just in case?
Don't you think the outcome of that situation could have ended a lot sooner if someone in that café had been carrying?!?!
Quite possibly, yes. It's a legit possibility at the least .
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irishman213 wrote: »Don't you think the outcome of that situation could have ended a lot sooner if someone in that café had been carrying?!?!
Absolutely. I also think that just the thought that someone else may be carrying is often enough to deter some. Violent crimes are often higher in the states/cities with the strictest gun control because the criminals know the average citizen is less protected.
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A friend of mine has one of these that she uses for her LC9. She likes it very much.
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I think the real answer as a thin woman carrying is to have options. I like a thigh holster if I'm in a skirt, belly band if I really need it to stay put and am wearing a loose fitting shirt, ankle holster with jeans... I use non-holsters, too, like coat pockets, as long as its secure and accessible. Carrying is very weather and outfit dependent.
I will say, be sure you get range time in to practice drawing from multiple carrying spots. I learned on one such trip that the gloves I usually wore out walking the dogs adsorbed too much of my recoil and made my G26 jam.0 -
I live right outside a city Newsweek just dubbed "Murder Town USA." Close enough to the city to be around it all, far enough from the city that the cops would take too long to save me in the event someone broke into my home. I am considering getting trained on how to use a gun so that I can have it in my home in case of an emergency.
I think it's a personal choice and I'm glad we have the right to make that decision in this country. Although, I admit, carrying would make me nervous. But that could be because I haven't been trained.0 -
What are the odds of being in a car accident based on the number of cars on the road at any given point in time? If there are 500k cars on the road each day and only 100 accidents per day... why in the world do you bother with a seat belt?
How many toddlers are in your city that have drowned in a pool? Say there are 50k kids between 2 and 5 years old, and maybe 2k swimming pools at ground level - and only 10 kids died that way last year. Why bother putting up a fence around the pools when the odds are so low? Do you think the odds are so low *because* we put up fences around them?
The odds of being struck by lightening while holding a metal umbrella in a thunderstorm are close to that of winning the lottery... SO you wouldnt have any issues using it?
The odds of your house being broken into at night while you are sleeping are astronomically low... so ... do you lock your door at night? Why? Do you think if no one bothered to lock their doors at night, criminals would figure this out and the stats would go up? You bet.
How many cars are left with the keys in them, unlocked and running and are eventually stolen? Not many... why? Because people are not that stupid to create a situation where their car is easily stolen. Do you lock your car doors? Take your keys with you? Why? The odds are very small...
Odds and statistics are what they are because people take precautions. Do you think robbery rates would be higher if everyone carried their money on the outside in plain view? You bet, if someone knew you were carrying a large amount of cash, you would be more likely to be robbed - so people dont. But that means the odds of being robbed while carrying a large amount of cash are actually very small. It has nothing to do with criminal people being nicer, it has to do with regular people being smarter and not displaying their money.
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- There is some cause and effect here, and statistics do not tell the whole story. Normal people take reasonable precautions against things that they prefer not to happen to them.
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- Go find someone who was robbed or whose family member was one of the 58 murdered, and ask them how much they care about the statistics? It happens. Taking precautions does not make you a person who walks around in fear all the time or who thinks they will be one of the unlucky ones.0 -
No, the media is pretty much only good for fear mongering. How do you think they keep you coming back? I read statistics. Much more comforting. Last year in my city there were 58 murders. There are about 780,000 people in my city. Beyond that, a fair chunk of murders are ones where the victim knew the killer. The news at least backs me up on this one. Ever notice how most headlines seem to note drugs or some sort of dispute as the cause. Domestic disputes are way up there too. How well do you know your b/f or husband?FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »
Looking at it from a national level where do you think murder falls as a cause of death? Hint: not even in the top 10 (usually around 15-20k homicides in our country of over 300 million). People are out to get me though? Not really. In theory you're actually more of a danger to yourself. The number of suicides is typically roughly DOUBLE the number of homicides. We won't even go into the really dangerous things you do like drive.
Living in a city with 780,000 people and 58 murders a year, you bet your butt I'd be carrying a gun on me at all times. Fortunately, I live in a suburban town of 23,000 with a crime index of 85 (100 being the safest). There was 1 murder in 2001, 1 murder in 2012, and 1 murder a month ago. That's a total of 3 murders over a 13 year span (two of which were murder-suicides involving couples). Good thing I follow statistics too
Moral of the story is, it's better to be safe than sorry. You can't rely on the cops to save you. You need to be able to protect yourself.
Oh and thanks for being concerned about a significant other but I've yet to meet a man who is worthy of my time and I have zero intentions of getting married.0 -
I took the CCW class over a year ago and have still not sent in for my permit, mainly because either I didnt have the $ (I live in broke IL, where everything involving permits/government stuff costs more) or I just keep forgetting about it now that I do have the $. My conceal and carry is a S&W M&P 9C .. I keep thinking about how I dont really feel in danger and may be another reason I am not running out to send in my application, but I would also have to look into different types of holsters that are appropriate. I just feel like I would be taking it off and leaving it in my car more than actually carrying it because it is off limits to carry a gun into almost any building anymore. I dont know how it is in other states.0
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I took the CCW class over a year ago and have still not sent in for my permit, mainly because either I didnt have the $ (I live in broke IL, where everything involving permits/government stuff costs more) or I just keep forgetting about it now that I do have the $. My conceal and carry is a S&W M&P 9C .. I keep thinking about how I dont really feel in danger and may be another reason I am not running out to send in my application, but I would also have to look into different types of holsters that are appropriate. I just feel like I would be taking it off and leaving it in my car more than actually carrying it because it is off limits to carry a gun into almost any building anymore. I dont know how it is in other states.
In WA no guns signs have no legal power for stores and such. But if you're told to leave you have to leave or face trespass charge, from what I have read. But can't no matter what in courts, schools, hospitals and such.0 -
IL has some pretty tough gun laws. The gunbuster signs aren't legal notification here in Texas either - has to be a 30.06 sign posted as specified by the law. If you're caught carrying past a gunbuster sign, they can ask you to leave and if you refuse you are legally trespassing.0
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@pincushion14 I'm not a size 4, But I carry my DiamondBack .380 Under my ta-tas. (Hope that is censored enough.) Check out "FlashBang" holsters. It is by far MY FAVORITE place to carry, never in the way, comfortable, and concealed. (I didn't read all the posts so if this was already addressed- I apologize.)
Since buying my FlashBang I haven't wore another holster- it's perfection!0 -
I briefly tried a flashbang, but it just doesn't feel right to me. I may dig it out and give it another shot though since everyone who has mentioned it so far loves it.0
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Well, you know. Only in America.
I think people are forgetting that guns are useful for defending against muggings, robberies, car jackings, and all manner of assaults. Quoting the stats of the odds of being involved in gun violence hardly paints the whole picture.
Anywho, OP, I think you're going to need to have a variety of options depending on the day. This is part of why I am still dithering on what type of personal carry gun to get. I hate practicing with super-compact guns because my accuracy and wrists suffer with the increased recoil. Seriously, I've practiced with .45 magnums and once with a Taurus Judge, and did better.
Yet, I need to practice often if I'm going to carry. Plus, if my accuracy is reduced during practice, I can't imagine what kind of crap it would be in a high-stress situation. On the other hand, the guns I enjoy shooting, and am reliably accurate with are too big to conceal on my person unless I'm wearing loose-fitting clothes.
Yeah, I'm just going to have to suck it up and wear looser clothes. At least my dresses and skirts won't need adjustment.0 -
Well, you know. Only in America.
I think people are forgetting that guns are useful for defending against muggings, robberies, car jackings, and all manner of assaults. Quoting the stats of the odds of being involved in gun violence hardly paints the whole picture.
Anywho, OP, I think you're going to need to have a variety of options depending on the day. This is part of why I am still dithering on what type of personal carry gun to get. I hate practicing with super-compact guns because my accuracy and wrists suffer with the increased recoil. Yet, I need to practice often if I'm going to carry. Plus, if my accuracy is reduced during practice, I can't imagine what kind of crap it would be in a high-stress situation. On the other hand, the guns I enjoy shooting, and am reliably accurate with are too big to conceal on my person unless I'm wearing loose-fitting clothes.
Yeah, I'm just going to have to suck it up and wear looser clothes. At least my dresses and skirts won't need adjustment.
I have a Palmetto State Armory AR-15 pistol too. TECHNICALLY it's a pistol, and TECHNICALLY if I could conceal it, it would fall under my license. :-D She's a beauty and a total joy to take to the range.0
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