Concealed Carriers
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What you say about accuracy under stress is true, but carrying concealed you're preparing more for close-quarter situations. Probably not going to be in a long range shooting match. You still need to be aware of your surroundings of course, but accuracy is most likely going to be less of an issue in the predicted scenarios.
Well, you know. Only in America.
I think people are forgetting that guns are useful for defending against muggings, robberies, car jackings, and all manner of assaults. Quoting the stats of the odds of being involved in gun violence hardly paints the whole picture.
Anywho, OP, I think you're going to need to have a variety of options depending on the day. This is part of why I am still dithering on what type of personal carry gun to get. I hate practicing with super-compact guns because my accuracy and wrists suffer with the increased recoil. Seriously, I've practiced with .45 magnums and once with a Taurus Judge, and did better.
Yet, I need to practice often if I'm going to carry. Plus, if my accuracy is reduced during practice, I can't imagine what kind of crap it would be in a high-stress situation. On the other hand, the guns I enjoy shooting, and am reliably accurate with are too big to conceal on my person unless I'm wearing loose-fitting clothes.
Yeah, I'm just going to have to suck it up and wear looser clothes. At least my dresses and skirts won't need adjustment.
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Hey thanks for this thread...I open carry sometimes because I don't have a choice due to my frame. Was thinking about a smaller gun perhaps a Kahr Arms PM9? I carry a glock 26.0
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I'm part of a group working to get open carry in Texas. I envy those who have that option! Hopefully this legislative session will bring about those changes. We already got our new governor to agree to sign an open carry bill if we can get it to his desk.0
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pincushion14 wrote: »I'm part of a group working to get open carry in Texas. I envy those who have that option! Hopefully this legislative session will bring about those changes. We already got our new governor to agree to sign an open carry bill if we can get it to his desk.
That's awesome!
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I'm just going to interject here that there are many reasons for carrying. I always carry when I'm in the mountains. You know, where bears and mountain lions are. We have rabid animals in our area from time to time, as well. I like to be prepared. It's not always just people that are a danger.
Anyway, OP, I've had the same issue and my best advice would be to consider your reason for carrying and then choose the smallest weapon possible while still being effective for its intended use. Then try several different holsters. Your other option would be to adjust your wardrobe accordingly.0 -
I can't believe Colorado is open carry but Texas isn't. OP, time to move. 0
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Some_Watery_Tart wrote: »I can't believe Colorado is open carry but Texas isn't. OP, time to move.
I know, right?! I'll fight for my Texas until they put me in the earth. There's nowhere else like it. :-)0 -
When I was heavier (about size 10, 161 lbs of fluffy), I could completely conceal at 3:00 (or slightly behind hip) my XD9 in a Remora. Now that I'm thinner, I haven't yet found the sweet spot (good thing it's winter, coat covers all and I carry in my open carry holster), but I'm thinking more toward the back, almost SOB works well for a lot of lean/average women. Also, don't forget to experiment with cant and height of carry to minimize printing.0
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williams969 wrote: »When I was heavier (about size 10, 161 lbs of fluffy), I could completely conceal at 3:00 (or slightly behind hip) my XD9 in a Remora. Now that I'm thinner, I haven't yet found the sweet spot (good thing it's winter, coat covers all and I carry in my open carry holster), but I'm thinking more toward the back, almost SOB works well for a lot of lean/average women. Also, don't forget to experiment with cant and height of carry to minimize printing.
Great advice! Cant and rise really can make a difference. I need to find a holster that will allow me to adjust both. This one is rise only. :-/0 -
pincushion14 wrote: »williams969 wrote: »When I was heavier (about size 10, 161 lbs of fluffy), I could completely conceal at 3:00 (or slightly behind hip) my XD9 in a Remora. Now that I'm thinner, I haven't yet found the sweet spot (good thing it's winter, coat covers all and I carry in my open carry holster), but I'm thinking more toward the back, almost SOB works well for a lot of lean/average women. Also, don't forget to experiment with cant and height of carry to minimize printing.
Great advice! Cant and rise really can make a difference. I need to find a holster that will allow me to adjust both. This one is rise only. :-/
If you don't have one already, the Remora is a really inexpensive way to figure that out. Then the great search for a leather one with those attributes. Or keep using the Remora.
I can also (shameless plug, but I've no monetary interest at all, just like it) recommend the Cleveland brand holster (hybrid leather/Kydex, IWB, fully adjustable height/cant/retention, made in my home, Wisconsin ) 0 -
The Remora is a sticky holster, right? I got one of those and couldn't leave the house in it, it felt so insecure.0
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pincushion14 wrote: »The Remora is a sticky holster, right? I got one of those and couldn't leave the house in it, it felt so insecure.
Yeah, it's sticky style. It takes some getting used to, and its stickiness varies for some people. IME, a belt is still necessary to secure it. My husband never uses his, for the reasons you give. Doesn't seem to "stick" to him as well as it does for me.
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pincushion14 wrote: »I briefly tried a flashbang, but it just doesn't feel right to me. I may dig it out and give it another shot though since everyone who has mentioned it so far loves it.
Lol I would love if this would work for me... sadly the gun sticks out farther than my chest... Guess you have to have a certain "build" for this one to work!
Here is one of my favorites - if tight enough, it conceals VERY well.
- http://www.amazon.com/Hugger-Classic-Can-Concealment-Holster/dp/B00EP0ZVCI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419298742&sr=8-1&keywords=can+can+concealment
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I've been looking at those too. I'm wondering if that one will stay where it goes though. I had one similar to it and it kept hiking itself up around my waist as the day went along.0
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Lots of options (several with videos showing them in use) at http://www.thewellarmedwoman.com0
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We have open carry here in Wisconsin, so I generally have an OWB appendix carry (Glock 17, which is a full-size) + a BUG (Glock 26, which is the subcompact) in my purse (which I carry coss-body, and it has slashproof straps, so I'm not worried about security).pincushion14 wrote:I carry daily, all day, on body.
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Has anyone else carrying concealed had issues after losing weight?
When I can't use those options (like when I'm at work) I use a belly band and leave my shirt untucked so it drapes from my widest point(s) and the pistol (G26) is hidden in the front.
Very few people are forward enough to do more than a passing glance in that area.
In fact, several times I've surprised a class (I teach firearm safety on the side) by teaching for a couple hours, then when we start discussing holsters I pull out a full-size orange pistol from the belly holster.
The only thing I'd like to change thanks to losing weight is to get a smaller, more sturdy belt.
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Illinois is one of the most repressive places.shellma00 wrote:I just feel like I would be taking it off and leaving it in my car more than actually carrying it because it is off limits to carry a gun into almost any building anymore. I don't know how it is in other states.
Please don't base your opinions of carrying on their asinine laws.
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Bobby Cleveland sold the company a year or two ago.williams969 wrote:I can also recommend the Cleveland brand holster (hybrid leather/Kydex, IWB, fully adjustable height/cant/retention, made in my home, Wisconsin
Is the new owner also in WI?
(Never mind... their website says they are.)0 -
Wow, I've never known anyone who carried a gun. I kind of forgot that people do (I mean besides illegally).0
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Here is one of my favorites - if tight enough, it conceals VERY well.
- http://www.amazon.com/Hugger-Classic-Can-Concealment-Holster/dp/B00EP0ZVCI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419298742&sr=8-1&keywords=can+can+concealment
Wow this might actually be perfect! As well as covering tummy bulge. lol
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pincushion14 wrote: »I've been looking at those too. I'm wondering if that one will stay where it goes though. I had one similar to it and it kept hiking itself up around my waist as the day went along.
Mine did too with the regular one (plus it was a little too big as I lost weight), but I got one of their "sport" holders with the velcro waist instead of the hooks, and when hiking I can put it up a little higher and tighter so it stays put. I also had it custom made so that one of the pockets fits my phone perfectly (i have the Note 2 whch is HUGE). I go out hiking with the gun, a knife, my fitbit, extra mag, and phone all on that wasitband and basically you cannot tell with a loose tshirt
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pincushion14 wrote: »I've been looking at those too. I'm wondering if that one will stay where it goes though. I had one similar to it and it kept hiking itself up around my waist as the day went along.
Mine did too with the regular one (plus it was a little too big as I lost weight), but I got one of their "sport" holders with the velcro waist instead of the hooks, and when hiking I can put it up a little higher and tighter so it stays put. I also had it custom made so that one of the pockets fits my phone perfectly (i have the Note 2 whch is HUGE). I go out hiking with the gun, a knife, my fitbit, extra mag, and phone all on that wasitband and basically you cannot tell with a loose tshirt
Hiking, guns and knives. We could totes be friends. LOL0 -
I've used the flash bang holster and it's not too bad for my 38.0
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pincushion14 wrote: »I briefly tried a flashbang, but it just doesn't feel right to me. I may dig it out and give it another shot though since everyone who has mentioned it so far loves it.
Lol I would love if this would work for me... sadly the gun sticks out farther than my chest... Guess you have to have a certain "build" for this one to work!
Here is one of my favorites - if tight enough, it conceals VERY well.
- http://www.amazon.com/Hugger-Classic-Can-Concealment-Holster/dp/B00EP0ZVCI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419298742&sr=8-1&keywords=can+can+concealment
Thanks for the idea.. I may have to get me one of these whenever I finally get my permit.0 -
If you're not attached to your gun, try trading it (at least for every day concealed carry purposes) for a single stack. The thinner 9mm are easier to hide. I've never been large enough to hide a normal subcompact. Even my glock 26 is too large. So I recommend the Springfield XDS single stack 9mm, or (if you want the smaller price tag) the Smith & Wesson M&P Shield.
There are some good tips on the blog Packing Pretty. I don't think the blog is still going;but old entries cover a lot.0 -
Organicgasm wrote: »If you're not attached to your gun, try trading it (at least for every day concealed carry purposes) for a single stack. The thinner 9mm are easier to hide. I've never been large enough to hide a normal subcompact. Even my glock 26 is too large. So I recommend the Springfield XDS single stack 9mm, or (if you want the smaller price tag) the Smith & Wesson M&P Shield.
There are some good tips on the blog Packing Pretty. I don't think the blog is still going;but old entries cover a lot.
Been looking at both of those also. I held the Shield and I wasn't a fan of the balance and grip. I wish we had a test range around here. None of our ranges rent firearms for testing.
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pincushion14 wrote: »Organicgasm wrote: »If you're not attached to your gun, try trading it (at least for every day concealed carry purposes) for a single stack. The thinner 9mm are easier to hide. I've never been large enough to hide a normal subcompact. Even my glock 26 is too large. So I recommend the Springfield XDS single stack 9mm, or (if you want the smaller price tag) the Smith & Wesson M&P Shield.
There are some good tips on the blog Packing Pretty. I don't think the blog is still going;but old entries cover a lot.
Been looking at both of those also. I held the Shield and I wasn't a fan of the balance and grip. I wish we had a test range around here. None of our ranges rent firearms for testing.
That is exactly how I decided what pistol I wanted. I went to a range that let us rent guns and shoot them so that I could decide what I wanted. So glad we did that. My husband had bought me a Taurus 380 and I hated it.. I didnt like the fit. We went to the range and shot quite a few different ones until I decided on my S&W M&P 9C ... I loved the fit and the way it shot. I recommend doing that if you can find somewhere that offers that.
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May have to make a drive to Dallas or Lockhart post-holidays. *sigh*0
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pincushion14 wrote: »Organicgasm wrote: »If you're not attached to your gun, try trading it (at least for every day concealed carry purposes) for a single stack. The thinner 9mm are easier to hide. I've never been large enough to hide a normal subcompact. Even my glock 26 is too large. So I recommend the Springfield XDS single stack 9mm, or (if you want the smaller price tag) the Smith & Wesson M&P Shield.
There are some good tips on the blog Packing Pretty. I don't think the blog is still going;but old entries cover a lot.
Been looking at both of those also. I held the Shield and I wasn't a fan of the balance and grip. I wish we had a test range around here. None of our ranges rent firearms for testing.
Yes. I prefer the XDS. I love the grip. And honestly, the little safety features. You should really hold one. Try getting on a forum and asking around if someone will meet you at the range to let you fire theirs?0
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