SODA - Biggest addiction
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I've never had much of a soda addiction, just sweets in general. I've found that doing things like cutting out sugar for a couple months makes me more sensitive to the sweetness in foods like vegetables.
I've got two ways that I break away from sweets (whenever I get hooked again).
One method is to increase the time away. If the last time I was successfully sweet-free for 8 weeks, I'll try to push it to 10 weeks the next time.
The other method has more to do with how quickly I quit again. If I was hooked for 10 days last time, I'll try to give it up again in under 8 the next time.
It's a process, and you'll probably keep fighting it forever. But if you strive for more success with each attempt, that's what you'll get.0 -
That can be very tough! Maybe each day replace a soda with a carbonated flavored water. There are plenty of yummy flavors like fuji apple and mandarin orange. Next begin to replace each carbonated water with water.0
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IIFYM = If It Fits Your Macros. It's basically a dietary philosophy that believes that you shouldn't label individual foods as healthy or unhealthy. Instead your daily intake can be healthy or unhealthy as a whole. Basically you set up proper macronutrient goals (gram goals for protein, dietary fat, and carbohydrates) which follow your overarching calorie goal. You then eat basically whatever you want to hit those macronutrient goals and not exceed your calorie goal. It's also a good idea to consume adequate fiber, and make sure you hit certain micronutrient goals as well (vitamins and minerals).0
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IIFYM = If It Fits Your Macros. It's basically a dietary philosophy that believes that you shouldn't label individual foods as healthy or unhealthy. Instead your daily intake can be healthy or unhealthy as a whole. Basically you set up proper macronutrient goals (gram goals for protein, dietary fat, and carbohydrates) which follow your overarching calorie goal. You then eat basically whatever you want to hit those macronutrient goals and not exceed your calorie goal. It's also a good idea to consume adequate fiber, and make sure you hit certain micronutrient goals as well (vitamins and minerals).
Well that explains why you are the first person in my life to say there is nothing wrong with diet soda. I like that idea, and sounds like it is definately an easier way to get into weightloss. I didn't think you were arguing with me, but I did think you were pulling my leg lol..0 -
T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »
Based on what evidence?T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »They say it's just as bad for you as regular soda; as in retaining water etc.
First off, no it's not, secondly, why do you care about retaining water, fat loss is what is important, not weight loss.
Diet soda is not healthy
It's not...T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »They say it's just as bad for you as regular soda; as in retaining water etc.
First off, no it's not, secondly, why do you care about retaining water, fat loss is what is important, not weight loss.
also aspartame is said to be very unhealthy.
I am starting to really wonder if you are just messing with me ..
I'm not messing with you, I honestly want to know what evidence you have to show that diet soda is unhealthy or that aspertame is bad for you
I guess I am just going by what I have read and heard from several different sources (magazines, internet, tv blah blah) which is water weight, leads to cancer (what doesn't these days) and unhealthier than regular soda
This is part of the problem, you shouldn't take anything you read at face value, especially if it does not cite a scientific source such as an actual peer reviewed research study. Unfortunately, most of what you are going to find in articles in magazines, the internet and on television is complete BS.T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »
Based on what evidence?T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »They say it's just as bad for you as regular soda; as in retaining water etc.
First off, no it's not, secondly, why do you care about retaining water, fat loss is what is important, not weight loss.
Diet soda is not healthy
It's not...T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »They say it's just as bad for you as regular soda; as in retaining water etc.
First off, no it's not, secondly, why do you care about retaining water, fat loss is what is important, not weight loss.
also aspartame is said to be very unhealthy.
I am starting to really wonder if you are just messing with me ..
I'm not messing with you, I honestly want to know what evidence you have to show that diet soda is unhealthy or that aspertame is bad for you
maybe it is just that i need to become more educated on these types of subjects?
Yes, that's exactly what you need to do. Don't listen to what other people tell you they heard or they read some article. Start doing some research for yourself. It's the only way to know what's factual and what's just misinformation.
Not everyone on this forum is interested in starting a scientific debate. If you want to goad someone into it, don't choose someone who is just looking for support on how to stop an unhealthy habit.
OP, it's the same way I approached quitting smoking. It's bad for you, you know it's bad for you. Sometimes you drink it because you're thirsty, other times you don't even know why, just habit. There's only one thing to do and that's stop it. Stop drinking the pop and any other overly sugary drinks. Replace it with water or tea (anything unsweetened really). It will be hard at first but after a few weeks it won't be so bad.
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apparations wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »
Based on what evidence?T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »They say it's just as bad for you as regular soda; as in retaining water etc.
First off, no it's not, secondly, why do you care about retaining water, fat loss is what is important, not weight loss.
Diet soda is not healthy
It's not...T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »They say it's just as bad for you as regular soda; as in retaining water etc.
First off, no it's not, secondly, why do you care about retaining water, fat loss is what is important, not weight loss.
also aspartame is said to be very unhealthy.
I am starting to really wonder if you are just messing with me ..
I'm not messing with you, I honestly want to know what evidence you have to show that diet soda is unhealthy or that aspertame is bad for you
I guess I am just going by what I have read and heard from several different sources (magazines, internet, tv blah blah) which is water weight, leads to cancer (what doesn't these days) and unhealthier than regular soda
This is part of the problem, you shouldn't take anything you read at face value, especially if it does not cite a scientific source such as an actual peer reviewed research study. Unfortunately, most of what you are going to find in articles in magazines, the internet and on television is complete BS.T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »
Based on what evidence?T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »They say it's just as bad for you as regular soda; as in retaining water etc.
First off, no it's not, secondly, why do you care about retaining water, fat loss is what is important, not weight loss.
Diet soda is not healthy
It's not...T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »They say it's just as bad for you as regular soda; as in retaining water etc.
First off, no it's not, secondly, why do you care about retaining water, fat loss is what is important, not weight loss.
also aspartame is said to be very unhealthy.
I am starting to really wonder if you are just messing with me ..
I'm not messing with you, I honestly want to know what evidence you have to show that diet soda is unhealthy or that aspertame is bad for you
maybe it is just that i need to become more educated on these types of subjects?
Yes, that's exactly what you need to do. Don't listen to what other people tell you they heard or they read some article. Start doing some research for yourself. It's the only way to know what's factual and what's just misinformation.
Not everyone on this forum is interested in starting a scientific debate. If you want to goad someone into it, don't choose someone who is just looking for support on how to stop an unhealthy habit.
OP, it's the same way I approached quitting smoking. It's bad for you, you know it's bad for you. Sometimes you drink it because you're thirsty, other times you don't even know why, just habit. There's only one thing to do and that's stop it. Stop drinking the pop and any other overly sugary drinks. Replace it with water or tea (anything unsweetened really). It will be hard at first but after a few weeks it won't be so bad.
Why does everybody think I'm trying to debate her? I'm just trying to give her useful information. I have not once been hostile to her. Even she thinks I'm not trying to debate her, why can't everybody else see that?
Also, what a ridiculous comparison. There is conclusive, definitive evidence that smoking is extremely bad for you. There isn't anywhere near conclusive or definitive evidence that diet soda or artificial sweeteners are bad for you. To the contrary artificial sweeteners have been tested over and over again and have not been found to be harmful in humans.0 -
T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »IIFYM = If It Fits Your Macros. It's basically a dietary philosophy that believes that you shouldn't label individual foods as healthy or unhealthy. Instead your daily intake can be healthy or unhealthy as a whole. Basically you set up proper macronutrient goals (gram goals for protein, dietary fat, and carbohydrates) which follow your overarching calorie goal. You then eat basically whatever you want to hit those macronutrient goals and not exceed your calorie goal. It's also a good idea to consume adequate fiber, and make sure you hit certain micronutrient goals as well (vitamins and minerals).
Well that explains why you are the first person in my life to say there is nothing wrong with diet soda. I like that idea, and sounds like it is definately an easier way to get into weightloss. I didn't think you were arguing with me, but I did think you were pulling my leg lol..
Yea, I've tried many different "diets", and ended up failing every single one of them, before I did my research and found out about IIFYM. I have never been healthier than I am now, and never been more satisfied with my dietary choices and my relationship with food as I am now.0 -
From MayoClinic's site: "Although switching from regular soda to diet soda may save you calories in the short term, it's not yet clear if it's effective for preventing obesity and related health problems. Healthier low-calorie choices abound, including water, skim milk, and unsweetened tea or coffee."
Basically this quote is saying "we have no idea".0 -
From MayoClinic's site: "Although switching from regular soda to diet soda may save you calories in the short term, it's not yet clear if it's effective for preventing obesity and related health problems. Healthier low-calorie choices abound, including water, skim milk, and unsweetened tea or coffee."
Basically this quote is saying "we have no idea".
No kidding... I didn't catch that when I was reading it. You said to she should have more information... that is more information, just different from yours.
How is inconclusiveness relevant information that will help inform her?0 -
Well....how about we say you're both right, because you probably won't change each other's opinion?
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missiontofitness wrote: »Well....how about we say you're both right, because you probably won't change each other's opinion?
Yea, but arguing is fun0 -
apparations wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »
Based on what evidence?T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »They say it's just as bad for you as regular soda; as in retaining water etc.
First off, no it's not, secondly, why do you care about retaining water, fat loss is what is important, not weight loss.
Diet soda is not healthy
It's not...T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »They say it's just as bad for you as regular soda; as in retaining water etc.
First off, no it's not, secondly, why do you care about retaining water, fat loss is what is important, not weight loss.
also aspartame is said to be very unhealthy.
I am starting to really wonder if you are just messing with me ..
I'm not messing with you, I honestly want to know what evidence you have to show that diet soda is unhealthy or that aspertame is bad for you
I guess I am just going by what I have read and heard from several different sources (magazines, internet, tv blah blah) which is water weight, leads to cancer (what doesn't these days) and unhealthier than regular soda
This is part of the problem, you shouldn't take anything you read at face value, especially if it does not cite a scientific source such as an actual peer reviewed research study. Unfortunately, most of what you are going to find in articles in magazines, the internet and on television is complete BS.T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »
Based on what evidence?T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »They say it's just as bad for you as regular soda; as in retaining water etc.
First off, no it's not, secondly, why do you care about retaining water, fat loss is what is important, not weight loss.
Diet soda is not healthy
It's not...T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »They say it's just as bad for you as regular soda; as in retaining water etc.
First off, no it's not, secondly, why do you care about retaining water, fat loss is what is important, not weight loss.
also aspartame is said to be very unhealthy.
I am starting to really wonder if you are just messing with me ..
I'm not messing with you, I honestly want to know what evidence you have to show that diet soda is unhealthy or that aspertame is bad for you
maybe it is just that i need to become more educated on these types of subjects?
Yes, that's exactly what you need to do. Don't listen to what other people tell you they heard or they read some article. Start doing some research for yourself. It's the only way to know what's factual and what's just misinformation.
Not everyone on this forum is interested in starting a scientific debate. If you want to goad someone into it, don't choose someone who is just looking for support on how to stop an unhealthy habit.
OP, it's the same way I approached quitting smoking. It's bad for you, you know it's bad for you. Sometimes you drink it because you're thirsty, other times you don't even know why, just habit. There's only one thing to do and that's stop it. Stop drinking the pop and any other overly sugary drinks. Replace it with water or tea (anything unsweetened really). It will be hard at first but after a few weeks it won't be so bad.
I don't care if the OP decides to drink diet soda or not, but PLEASE do not compare drinking diet soda (or even regular soda) to smoking cigarettes. There is no comparison. If you think they are equally bad for you, you're severely misinformed.
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T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »IIFYM = If It Fits Your Macros. It's basically a dietary philosophy that believes that you shouldn't label individual foods as healthy or unhealthy. Instead your daily intake can be healthy or unhealthy as a whole. Basically you set up proper macronutrient goals (gram goals for protein, dietary fat, and carbohydrates) which follow your overarching calorie goal. You then eat basically whatever you want to hit those macronutrient goals and not exceed your calorie goal. It's also a good idea to consume adequate fiber, and make sure you hit certain micronutrient goals as well (vitamins and minerals).
Well that explains why you are the first person in my life to say there is nothing wrong with diet soda. I like that idea, and sounds like it is definately an easier way to get into weightloss. I didn't think you were arguing with me, but I did think you were pulling my leg lol..
Good on you!
It's super to see someone willing to rethink their ideas about healthy eating and weight-loss.
Coke zero is my go-to when I'm feeling deflated and sick of all the salads and rice cakes etc... XP I'd have given up without it, definitely.
I wish you lots of luck, pal! (*)
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I just did it, gave up a 3 can a day addiction to Pepsi. And that was 18 months ago. Was it easy? Nope. I still to this day get an incredible craving for a tall, cold glass but I don't give in to it. Why? Because I'd rather have the calories for food
I don't think there's anything wrong with diet sodas, if that's what it takes to help you get over an addiction to soda, then I'm all for it. I haven't ever liked the taste of diet drinks so it wasn't an option for me.
Good luck - you can do it!0 -
apparations wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »
Based on what evidence?T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »They say it's just as bad for you as regular soda; as in retaining water etc.
First off, no it's not, secondly, why do you care about retaining water, fat loss is what is important, not weight loss.
Diet soda is not healthy
It's not...T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »They say it's just as bad for you as regular soda; as in retaining water etc.
First off, no it's not, secondly, why do you care about retaining water, fat loss is what is important, not weight loss.
also aspartame is said to be very unhealthy.
I am starting to really wonder if you are just messing with me ..
I'm not messing with you, I honestly want to know what evidence you have to show that diet soda is unhealthy or that aspertame is bad for you
I guess I am just going by what I have read and heard from several different sources (magazines, internet, tv blah blah) which is water weight, leads to cancer (what doesn't these days) and unhealthier than regular soda
This is part of the problem, you shouldn't take anything you read at face value, especially if it does not cite a scientific source such as an actual peer reviewed research study. Unfortunately, most of what you are going to find in articles in magazines, the internet and on television is complete BS.T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »
Based on what evidence?T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »They say it's just as bad for you as regular soda; as in retaining water etc.
First off, no it's not, secondly, why do you care about retaining water, fat loss is what is important, not weight loss.
Diet soda is not healthy
It's not...T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »T00GlaM0r0US wrote: »They say it's just as bad for you as regular soda; as in retaining water etc.
First off, no it's not, secondly, why do you care about retaining water, fat loss is what is important, not weight loss.
also aspartame is said to be very unhealthy.
I am starting to really wonder if you are just messing with me ..
I'm not messing with you, I honestly want to know what evidence you have to show that diet soda is unhealthy or that aspertame is bad for you
maybe it is just that i need to become more educated on these types of subjects?
Yes, that's exactly what you need to do. Don't listen to what other people tell you they heard or they read some article. Start doing some research for yourself. It's the only way to know what's factual and what's just misinformation.
Not everyone on this forum is interested in starting a scientific debate. If you want to goad someone into it, don't choose someone who is just looking for support on how to stop an unhealthy habit.
OP, it's the same way I approached quitting smoking. It's bad for you, you know it's bad for you. Sometimes you drink it because you're thirsty, other times you don't even know why, just habit. There's only one thing to do and that's stop it. Stop drinking the pop and any other overly sugary drinks. Replace it with water or tea (anything unsweetened really). It will be hard at first but after a few weeks it won't be so bad.
I don't care if the OP decides to drink diet soda or not, but PLEASE do not compare drinking diet soda (or even regular soda) to smoking cigarettes. There is no comparison. If you think they are equally bad for you, you're severely misinformed.
What I meant was that I applied the same method and mentality to quitting smoking as i did to drinking soda. Quitting an addictive behaviour.0 -
Actually, I am having a big fountain diet cherry coke right now at work. One of my co-workers was kind enough to make a run to Wawa.
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