Dr. Phil 20/20 Diet- is he becoming the next Dr. Oz?
missiontofitness
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So I'm watching the Dr. Phil show; I only watched it sporadically today, since I was busy doing other things. It covered the weight concerns of the guests, and where they came from to where they are now. Apparently he's come up with his own "phase" diet. If you go to his site, there's also convienently a link to purchase the Ninja blender for the LOW LOW price of $199.99.
I was hoping for some trash TV on Dr. Phil today. I have absolutely no intention of doing this (because the tagline of his book is "20 Key Foods to Help You Succeed Where Other Diets Fail"). But let's all talk about this new ~*~miracle diet~*~ being plugged by yet another person with no nutrition credentials!
I was hoping for some trash TV on Dr. Phil today. I have absolutely no intention of doing this (because the tagline of his book is "20 Key Foods to Help You Succeed Where Other Diets Fail"). But let's all talk about this new ~*~miracle diet~*~ being plugged by yet another person with no nutrition credentials!
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I don't even think he's a real doctor!!
ugh ...another windbag snakeoil salesman!0 -
Money Talks !!!0
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I wouldn't call him thin or fit. Hmmph.0
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He technically "is" since he has a doctorate (I say that loosely of course)...but other than that, he isn't a licensced psychologist, and retired in 2006. No medical credentials to my knowledge!tracyannk28 wrote: »I don't even think he's a real doctor!!
ugh ...another windbag snakeoil salesman!
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hollydubs85 wrote: »I wouldn't call him thin or fit. Hmmph.
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I think his ratings have been doing down alot, particularily this year. It's another way for him to make loads more cash and boost ratings.0
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To be fair, I do love my Ninja blender, but I have the cheap one, the one that's like 50 bucks and comes with a food processor. I also got it on sale at Target and used my red card. But $200 for a blender, is redonkulous!
And wasn't Dr. Phil's license revoked? I thought I read that somewhere.0 -
As long as he doesn't pretend it's medical advice, I wish him well selling his $200 blender.0
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To be fair, I do love my Ninja blender, but I have the cheap one, the one that's like 50 bucks and comes with a food processor. I also got it on sale at Target and used my red card. But $200 for a blender, is redonkulous!
And wasn't Dr. Phil's license revoked? I thought I read that somewhere.
To my knowledge, he retired his license to officially practice in 2006. He just bases his show on his experience as a professional, and it's not actual medical/psychological advice.0 -
I have a Dr. Phil diet book that I got at a yard sale a few years ago. It had a calorie counter, talked about high yield, low density foods, etc., nothing that you wouldn't read anywhere else. I doubt if he's going to say anything new or different.0
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I love Dr. Phil! I don't think he's becoming the "next Dr. Oz" because Dr. Phil doesn't really offer medical advice in the same respect that Dr. Oz does. Dr. Phil wrote another diet book about 10 years ago, it's just one more book among the 1,000's of other weigh loss books out there. And you know what, if that book is what people need to give them a jump start adn helps them lose weight, than good for them!0
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missiontofitness wrote: »To be fair, I do love my Ninja blender, but I have the cheap one, the one that's like 50 bucks and comes with a food processor. I also got it on sale at Target and used my red card. But $200 for a blender, is redonkulous!
And wasn't Dr. Phil's license revoked? I thought I read that somewhere.
To my knowledge, he retired his license to officially practice in 2006. He just bases his show on his experience as a professional, and it's not actual medical/psychological advice.
^^^That^^^ If you notice he never offers his personal help. He offers "resources" avaliable to him in order to help people with whatever their problem/issue is.0 -
Find his analysis comparable to a fortune cookie. “So how’s that workin’ for ya?” LOL
I hadn’t watched Dr. Phil in years! Until today!
I was walking on a treadmill at PF and listening to my music. Dr. Phil appeared on the TV screen before me & I could tell it was about obese people and diets. In the end, I ended up watching 15 minutes.
Same huckster…. Think I’ll pass on his latest endeavor 20/20.
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sherbear702 wrote: »missiontofitness wrote: »To be fair, I do love my Ninja blender, but I have the cheap one, the one that's like 50 bucks and comes with a food processor. I also got it on sale at Target and used my red card. But $200 for a blender, is redonkulous!
And wasn't Dr. Phil's license revoked? I thought I read that somewhere.
To my knowledge, he retired his license to officially practice in 2006. He just bases his show on his experience as a professional, and it's not actual medical/psychological advice.
^^^That^^^ If you notice he never offers his personal help. He offers "resources" avaliable to him in order to help people with whatever their problem/issue is.
True.
But don't you think developing your own diet plan based on phases and foods you should eat during each phase as a bit inappropriate? He has no background in nutrition, yet he is branding a diet in his name.0 -
I have a Dr. Phil diet book that I got at a yard sale a few years ago. It had a calorie counter, talked about high yield, low density foods, etc., nothing that you wouldn't read anywhere else. I doubt if he's going to say anything new or different.
Wish I could see the full details of this diet book without buying it so I could compare it to what you said; can't find any additional information on it online, other than what was talked about on the show today.
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He has a juris doctorate if I remember correctly, which means he's a lawyer and a pogue.
He's always been an Oz style shill/quack.
Thanks Oprah.0 -
One of the resolutions for 2015, should be to start not believing everything you see on TV and start doing your own research starting here on this site.0
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I blame Oprah. She's foisted all these ridiculous woo merchants upon the gullible public.
I miss Johnny Carson. Skeptic and critical thinker. Funny and smart as well.0 -
JeffseekingV wrote: »One of the resolutions for 2015, should be to start not believing everything you see on TV and start doing your own research starting here on this site.
Amen.
Scary how many people blindly follow Dr. Oz and buy what he promotes.0 -
hollydubs85 wrote: »I wouldn't call him thin or fit. Hmmph.
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To be fair, he's not trying to get everyone to be perfectly thin, but at a weight that is healthy and sustainable for them. Hard to tell in those suits, but his weight seems to be reasonable and stable.
The diet seems a bit gimmicky. He covers good things but in the end it's pretty much the same things rehashed. I'd like to see how he describes food combos.0 -
I love Dr Phil, I did buy the book and have started the 20/20 diet. The diet is based on simple foods that are cheap and no crazy supplements or weird food that you would not normally see in the grocery store. I have been on the diet for 3 days and have dropped 4.8 lbs. I feel great and not hungry between meals. I have been tracking everything and it works out to about 1300-1400 calories per day, and I am finding the recipes tasty and easy to prepare. I think this diet will work well for me and help me to change the way I eat permanently. I have tried many other diets which also worked but they were not sustainable. I need a new way of eating to be sucessful long term and this diet looks like it will be the one that will help me long term.
As for the Ninja blender/food processor, I have one which I bought at Costco (in Canada) for $160 in November. This blender/processor costs $250 at other stores and you can find it on sale for $200, so him offering it for $199 is fair for Canadians. I am sure people can find it for less in the USA. I absolutely love this Ninja so much that I bought my 2 kids each one and we all love it. I use it everyday.
As for Dr Phil's credentials, I am not sure what degrees he holds but I love his show and that he does use experts to help people.
Doctor Oz is a quack as far as I am concerned and will not watch him and hope that his show gets cancelled!0 -
I love Dr Phil, I did buy the book and have started the 20/20 diet. The diet is based on simple foods that are cheap and no crazy supplements or weird food that you would not normally see in the grocery store. I have been on the diet for 3 days and have dropped 4.8 lbs. I feel great and not hungry between meals. I have been tracking everything and it works out to about 1300-1400 calories per day, and I am finding the recipes tasty and easy to prepare. I think this diet will work well for me and help me to change the way I eat permanently. I have tried many other diets which also worked but they were not sustainable. I need a new way of eating to be sucessful long term and this diet looks like it will be the one that will help me long term.
As for the Ninja blender/food processor, I have one which I bought at Costco (in Canada) for $160 in November. This blender/processor costs $250 at other stores and you can find it on sale for $200, so him offering it for $199 is fair for Canadians. I am sure people can find it for less in the USA. I absolutely love this Ninja so much that I bought my 2 kids each one and we all love it. I use it everyday.
As for Dr Phil's credentials, I am not sure what degrees he holds but I love his show and that he does use experts to help people.
Doctor Oz is a quack as far as I am concerned and will not watch him and hope that his show gets cancelled!
Thanks for your perspective! I haven't been able to find previews of the book online, or find much information other than what I saw on the show that day. Glad to hear from someone who actually has the book in hand and has read it!0 -
missiontofitness wrote: »I love Dr Phil, I did buy the book and have started the 20/20 diet. The diet is based on simple foods that are cheap and no crazy supplements or weird food that you would not normally see in the grocery store. I have been on the diet for 3 days and have dropped 4.8 lbs. I feel great and not hungry between meals. I have been tracking everything and it works out to about 1300-1400 calories per day, and I am finding the recipes tasty and easy to prepare. I think this diet will work well for me and help me to change the way I eat permanently. I have tried many other diets which also worked but they were not sustainable. I need a new way of eating to be sucessful long term and this diet looks like it will be the one that will help me long term.
As for the Ninja blender/food processor, I have one which I bought at Costco (in Canada) for $160 in November. This blender/processor costs $250 at other stores and you can find it on sale for $200, so him offering it for $199 is fair for Canadians. I am sure people can find it for less in the USA. I absolutely love this Ninja so much that I bought my 2 kids each one and we all love it. I use it everyday.
As for Dr Phil's credentials, I am not sure what degrees he holds but I love his show and that he does use experts to help people.
Doctor Oz is a quack as far as I am concerned and will not watch him and hope that his show gets cancelled!
Thanks for your perspective! I haven't been able to find previews of the book online, or find much information other than what I saw on the show that day. Glad to hear from someone who actually has the book in hand and has read it!
No Problem missintofitness:) I am on the 4 th day of the diet and still not hungry between meals. so far I like the food combinations and am looking forward to Phase 2 of the diet which starts after tomorrow. Phase 2 adds 5 more each of the breakfast combinations with more types of foods and 10 more of the lunch/dinner combinations. By the way I am down another 1.4 lbs today:)
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yes, he is a doctor. he has a Ph.D in psychology. just like my friend has a PhD in english, he is Doctor Sinclair, PhD. both doctors, neither particularly qualified to write books on nutrition.
but dr.phil is really entertaining. so is dr.oz. he's on my quack list right now.0 -
Dr. Phil... Dr. Oz. Cut from the same mold. They do everything for ratings, not for helping people. I wish they would both disappear.0
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Dr. "Full Of It" in my opinion regardless of their credentials. They are showman /salesman.0
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While i think he is a total crock monster the diet itself isn't necessarily HARMFUL therefore if someone wishes to waste their hard earned cash on it i am not oppposed.
It's a meal plan based around eating fresh fruits, veggies, and lean meats. It addresses the psychological effects of weight loss and encourages people to make changes which they can stick to long term. It doesn't advocate any "diet" products, shakes, pills, etc.
I believe it also has around 1500 calories daily. so, MEH.0 -
I recall he was really into fitness, owned (or managed?) gyms and was a PT or something. Also really into tennis.
He's a big (very tall) man, but I don't think he's fat, he has always looked pretty fit to me.
I used to be a regular watcher of the Dr. Phil show. Unlike Oprah and most talk show hosts, Dr Phil was ironically not a big "feelz" kind of guy. He didn't have much patience for the bs that people with evident problems like to dish out, and that was kind of refreshing.
I recall one episode where his guest tried to justify himself through Christian theology and language, and Dr. Phil did a good job putting that manipulating bs-er in his place.
He did many episodes either about weight specifically, or the subject of weight would come up with his guests, and he often called people out on their excuses or silly beliefs in respect to weight management. Dr. Phil wasn't a promoter of or a fan of woo, in my estimation.
I stopped watching during some media fiasco with Britney Spears and he chased her down or was in contact with her family or something, back when she was being a nut, and I dunno, the whole thing was just kind of pathetic and clearly about trying to get ratings. He never got that "interview of a lifetime" to my knowledge. I lost a lot of respect for him over that.
Regardless, I was a fan at one time, and my bet is that his book will likely be reasonable and boring (in that, there won't be anything new or much woo to speak of)
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