Any vegetarians or pseudo-vegetarians?
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MakePeasNotWar wrote: »
I think it depends where you buy it. I buy my tofu and edamame in Koreatown and it's probably less than 1/2 of the price at Whole Foods or anywhere that it's in the "health food" section.
Yes, it definitely does. That's a good point.0 -
I just find it amazing how some people get angry or even envious because of what OTHERS eat. Not looking for labels. I care what goes in MY body. I don't care what others think about that at all. Seems some people have poor comprehensions skills too. Those items I listed were personal items I do not eat. It wasn't saying that those who eat them are unhealthy. If you read the next paragraph about the aesthetics part, I was referring to those that eat pizza, ice cream and burgers, and take tons of sketchy supplements. And yes, there are many people on this forum who are vain and closed-minded. PERIOD.Therealobi1 wrote: »Op can i ask how you gained your weight?
You probably didnt mean it, but if you re read your OP it doesnt come out pleasant at all. It actually reads like you are above the rest of us. Also nothing wrong with looking nice. Haven't come across anyone who only care about looks. I mostly come across people who want to look good and good health comes as a bonus.
You guys can think what you want I really don't give a damn. It doesn't affect my life one bit.
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goddessofawesome wrote: »Hey everyone,
Before I got into calorie counting and serious weight loss I ate a diet that was high in veggies, fruits, seeds, some grains, legumes, seaweed, and occasionally some fish or poultry. However, I only ate fish/poultry about 2-3 times a week. What I discovered was I was not getting enough protein. So I switched to eating a lot more poultry and fish with the addition of goat milk yogurt. With this diet I am still struggling to get the high amount of protein I need. Unlike some people I care what goes into my body. I stay away from red meats, dairy, artificial sweeteners, added sugar, preservatives, peanuts, etc. And I try to eat whole foods or minimally processed foods.
I make it a point to eat one salad a day. I also have a morning smoothie where I add veggies. I have a higher value on internal health rather than aesthetics. Some people will do whatever it takes to look good but at the cost of having high cholesterol, high blood pressure, vitamin deficiencies, and other issues.
Anyway, now that this is out of the way I want to know how do some of you people get enough protein? Is it possible to have meatless days? Besides nuts, seeds, legumes, sprouts, and egg whites, what do you do? One thing that is driving me crazy is protein density. Apparently not all proteins are created equal. Non-meat sources usually are not as efficient. You need a higher amount of them. So it makes me question if I am getting the indicated protein on some labels or if some of them are not complete. I know quinoa is complete, egg whites as well. How about plant based protein powder? Who uses them? Is it a complete protein? Looking to learn from you.
Thanks
I find this whole post to be quite rude, with emphasis on the bolded parts.
I'd love to know who all these people are that "don't care" about what goes into their body and are "only about the aesthetics rather than health".
Consuming red meat and dairy doesn't make one unhealthy. You're views are the reason why so many vegetarians/vegans get a bad rap.
Some of you have poor comprehension skills. Those items I listed meant I DO NOT eat them. Had nothing to do with saying those that do are unhealthy. What I meant about the aesthetic part is that some people eat pizza and ice cream all the time, and while they look good on the outside, they may not be healthy really. It's amazing that I am finding out a good portion of this forum does indeed feel insecure and envious of people. The ones who get pissed are clearly the one who only give a damn about weight loss and "looking good". Don't even bother you're really ignorant.
LMAO! Insecure and envious of . . . . what exactly?
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And lie I said, in the future I will be reporting posts that are not helpful. If you have nothing to offer the thread and attack members you will be reported. Do something else with your time rather than looking like an ignorant and insecure baby. Worry about your foods and your diet, NOT OTHERS.-1
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And yet, you keep posting...0
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Anger dude has anger issues. As well as an inferiority complex masking itself as a superiority complex. Best to just leave him alone, or he'll hurt someone IRL.0
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All I can think of is that Bugs Bunny with the Gangster .. Shut up shuttin' up ...And yet, you keep posting...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYa0jpGFUeY 0 -
my gif sucked
so this will have to do
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I'm a pseudo-Vegan, but since almost nobody knows what Vegans really look like or that they can reach our solar system, I can pull it off pretty well I think. Of course I get some odd looks from people though...
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goddessofawesome wrote: »Hey everyone,
Before I got into calorie counting and serious weight loss I ate a diet that was high in veggies, fruits, seeds, some grains, legumes, seaweed, and occasionally some fish or poultry. However, I only ate fish/poultry about 2-3 times a week. What I discovered was I was not getting enough protein. So I switched to eating a lot more poultry and fish with the addition of goat milk yogurt. With this diet I am still struggling to get the high amount of protein I need. Unlike some people I care what goes into my body. I stay away from red meats, dairy, artificial sweeteners, added sugar, preservatives, peanuts, etc. And I try to eat whole foods or minimally processed foods.
I make it a point to eat one salad a day. I also have a morning smoothie where I add veggies. I have a higher value on internal health rather than aesthetics. Some people will do whatever it takes to look good but at the cost of having high cholesterol, high blood pressure, vitamin deficiencies, and other issues.
Anyway, now that this is out of the way I want to know how do some of you people get enough protein? Is it possible to have meatless days? Besides nuts, seeds, legumes, sprouts, and egg whites, what do you do? One thing that is driving me crazy is protein density. Apparently not all proteins are created equal. Non-meat sources usually are not as efficient. You need a higher amount of them. So it makes me question if I am getting the indicated protein on some labels or if some of them are not complete. I know quinoa is complete, egg whites as well. How about plant based protein powder? Who uses them? Is it a complete protein? Looking to learn from you.
Thanks
I find this whole post to be quite rude, with emphasis on the bolded parts.
I'd love to know who all these people are that "don't care" about what goes into their body and are "only about the aesthetics rather than health".
Consuming red meat and dairy doesn't make one unhealthy. You're views are the reason why so many vegetarians/vegans get a bad rap.
Yep...I was going to offer help, but after seeing the wording of the OP, nope.
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Your the one actually that sounds quite angry and brought up what others eat in your OP. You could have just said how can i get more protein. Are you possibly abit envious of others who choose to eat pizza, ice cream and burgers ?
I just find it amazing how some people get angry or even envious because of what OTHERS eat. Not looking for labels. I care what goes in MY body. I don't care what others think about that at all. Seems some people have poor comprehensions skills too. Those items I listed were personal items I do not eat. It wasn't saying that those who eat them are unhealthy. If you read the next paragraph about the aesthetics part, I was referring to those that eat pizza, ice cream and burgers, and take tons of sketchy supplements. And yes, there are many people on this forum who are vain and closed-minded. PERIOD.Therealobi1 wrote: »Op can i ask how you gained your weight?
You probably didnt mean it, but if you re read your OP it doesnt come out pleasant at all. It actually reads like you are above the rest of us. Also nothing wrong with looking nice. Haven't come across anyone who only care about looks. I mostly come across people who want to look good and good health comes as a bonus.
You guys can think what you want I really don't give a damn. It doesn't affect my life one bit.
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goddessofawesome wrote: »Hey everyone,
Before I got into calorie counting and serious weight loss I ate a diet that was high in veggies, fruits, seeds, some grains, legumes, seaweed, and occasionally some fish or poultry. However, I only ate fish/poultry about 2-3 times a week. What I discovered was I was not getting enough protein. So I switched to eating a lot more poultry and fish with the addition of goat milk yogurt. With this diet I am still struggling to get the high amount of protein I need. Unlike some people I care what goes into my body. I stay away from red meats, dairy, artificial sweeteners, added sugar, preservatives, peanuts, etc. And I try to eat whole foods or minimally processed foods.
I make it a point to eat one salad a day. I also have a morning smoothie where I add veggies. I have a higher value on internal health rather than aesthetics. Some people will do whatever it takes to look good but at the cost of having high cholesterol, high blood pressure, vitamin deficiencies, and other issues.
Anyway, now that this is out of the way I want to know how do some of you people get enough protein? Is it possible to have meatless days? Besides nuts, seeds, legumes, sprouts, and egg whites, what do you do? One thing that is driving me crazy is protein density. Apparently not all proteins are created equal. Non-meat sources usually are not as efficient. You need a higher amount of them. So it makes me question if I am getting the indicated protein on some labels or if some of them are not complete. I know quinoa is complete, egg whites as well. How about plant based protein powder? Who uses them? Is it a complete protein? Looking to learn from you.
Thanks
I find this whole post to be quite rude, with emphasis on the bolded parts.
I'd love to know who all these people are that "don't care" about what goes into their body and are "only about the aesthetics rather than health".
Consuming red meat and dairy doesn't make one unhealthy. You're views are the reason why so many vegetarians/vegans get a bad rap.
^^this.
Neither does anything on that list tbh (and where the heck did peanuts come from...that's a new one).
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Has nothing to do with superiority. Some of you people are really envious and insecure about others. If you have nothing to offer the thread then leave instead making yourself look immature.Therealobi1 wrote: »
agreed and the feeling of superiority of eating one way or another is not necessaryAlthough this detours somewhat from the OP, and given that there is some discussion about this, I'm wondering where I land in terms of categories and labels. I love meat and ate it freely all my life but over the past three years have only been eating fish and eggs in terms of meat etc. That said, it's not exactly vegetarian and not vegan....so I guess it just is what it is without label. Very liberating.
You learned a valuable lesson it seems.... you don't need a label.
You just eat food's you like and make you happy and are conducive to your lifestyle.
period.
end of story.
Pls re read your responses and your OP and you might include yourself in this . Also read some of the comments about people being ashamed of the different variants of vegans. and you will see the superiority coming out.0 -
And lie I said, in the future I will be reporting posts that are not helpful. If you have nothing to offer the thread and attack members you will be reported. Do something else with your time rather than looking like an ignorant and insecure baby. Worry about your foods and your diet, NOT OTHERS.
Please read the rules about what is a reportable post as I don't think you are aware of what is based on this statement.0 -
Although this detours somewhat from the OP, and given that there is some discussion about this, I'm wondering where I land in terms of categories and labels. I love meat and ate it freely all my life but over the past three years have only been eating fish and eggs in terms of meat etc. That said, it's not exactly vegetarian and not vegan....so I guess it just is what it is without label. Very liberating.
If you only eat fish, then you are a pescatarian.0 -
And another lesson learnt is that if you have a food / diet related questions dont stray into making judgment calls on peoples eating habits.
MennoniteMaid said it well and is bang on the money. I'm a vegetarian but I do not make judgments on people that eat meat - it's your choice. However I do get annoyed / insulted when some (not all) meat eaters try to label their meat eating as something else; "flexitarian", "pesciterain" its all the same and very straight forward: Q: do you eat meat in any form? A: Yes = you eat meat, so your not a vegetarian.
One last thing - sometimes labels are needed - restaurants and food makers need to know who's a vegetarian and vegan so when they make their food according to the "rules" of that group. Emmm thats about it really.
Now can I get back to dieting :-)0 -
well.mallory_2014 wrote: »You are not anything close to a vegetarian if you consume poultry or fish.
I am vegan and have no issues hitting, and exceeding my protein goals. I eat lentils, beans, dark green vegetables, soy milk, coconut or soy yogurt, tofu, tempeh, seitan, and some of the vegan meat replacements. It isn't hard to hit your protein goals without consuming meat, fish or any animal products for that matter.
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eeeeeehhhhhhh 150 grams of none meat product protein is a lot harder to eat and stay under a certain calorie content.
And honestly I've heard some sketchy stories about processed tof/meat 'replacements'. So yeah- you can hit your min goals- and get a reasonable amount- but if you're trying to hit high protein- you're going to have to do some serious supplementing without meats.
Not at all if you consume dairy. Unless on a pretty decent cut, I rarely need to supplement, have a pretty high protein target and am often having issues with not going over it too much and I am a....well, apparently I am not allowed to call myself what I usually do...so lets say I do not eat meats or fish.0 -
Unlike some people I care what goes into my body.
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I'm a chocolatarian.. I only eat things covered in chocolate0
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goddessofawesome wrote: »Laurend224 wrote: »Although this detours somewhat from the OP, and given that there is some discussion about this, I'm wondering where I land in terms of categories and labels. I love meat and ate it freely all my life but over the past three years have only been eating fish and eggs in terms of meat etc. That said, it's not exactly vegetarian and not vegan....so I guess it just is what it is without label. Very liberating.
Ovo-pescatarian?
That's what I would call it.
I kind of agree with the 'no need to label' sentiment, but sometimes labels are helpful for communication; ovo-pescatarian compresses a full sentence into one word.
Yeah, until you have to explain whatever the heck it means to someone who isn't down with the lingo...so silly.
Yeah... Or you could sound silly if they knew the term already and you just used a full sentence to describe it to them. Can't win really.
Yes you can. Don't use stupid labels to explain what you eat to people. A simple "I prefer the fish tonight" is sufficient. I mean, really, who cares?
I think it depends on the situation and who you are talking to; if someone is directly asking you about your dietary preferences then they care at least a little, and it might be useful to have a succinct way of putting it i.e. I'm an "X" (as long as you think the person would understand what you mean - which could be hard to judge). If you are just ordering food, then no; there is no need to announce it to everyone.
Ovo-pescatarian as a label is a bit more obscure and probably less useful/required than vegetarian or vegan, but I don't think it is entirely without merit - especially in the vegetarian/vegan communities.
Honestly? Even if you're talking to someone about their dietary preference why is it necessary to label it? Why, if for example, I don't eat red meat, pork, chicken, but I do eat fish, eggs and dairy can't I just say "Well, I don't eat XYZ because I don't like how it tastes but I LOVE my fish, eggs and dairy." Why is it even necessary to say I'm some sort of "atarian"?
It's not necessary, just useful sometimes. I don't understand why it's such a problem; why are you so anti-labelling?
My view is if you came to my house for dinner you could say "I'm a lacto-vegetarian" and I would instantly know what to cook or not cook for you without any further questions or explanation. I don't see anything stupid or wrong with that?
Nothing wrong if you prefer to explain it in detail either, I just don't see anything inherently bad about using labels.0 -
Laurend224 wrote: »Although this detours somewhat from the OP, and given that there is some discussion about this, I'm wondering where I land in terms of categories and labels. I love meat and ate it freely all my life but over the past three years have only been eating fish and eggs in terms of meat etc. That said, it's not exactly vegetarian and not vegan....so I guess it just is what it is without label. Very liberating.
Ovo-pescatarian?
That's what I would call it.
I kind of agree with the 'no need to label' sentiment, but sometimes labels are helpful for communication; ovo-pescatarian compresses a full sentence into one word.
Yeah, until you have to explain whatever the heck it means to someone who isn't down with the lingo...so silly.
Yeah... Or you could sound silly if they knew the term already and you just used a full sentence to describe it to them. Can't win really.
Yes you can. Don't use stupid labels to explain what you eat to people. A simple "I prefer the fish tonight" is sufficient. I mean, really, who cares?
I think it depends on the situation and who you are talking to; if someone is directly asking you about your dietary preferences then they care at least a little, and it might be useful to have a succinct way of putting it i.e. I'm an "X" (as long as you think the person would understand what you mean - which could be hard to judge). If you are just ordering food, then no; there is no need to announce it to everyone.
Ovo-pescatarian as a label is a bit more obscure and probably less useful/required than vegetarian or vegan, but I don't think it is entirely without merit - especially in the vegetarian/vegan communities.
"I eat whatever I want- but mostly chicken, red meat and veggies.
And ice cream.
pizza and beer.
I eat fish occasionally- but unless it's sushi I don't order it. "
easy.- I just explained what I ate and how I like to eat- without a label
why? because you don't need one.
No you don't, but that's not what I'm arguing. I'm not saying labels are necessary, just that they are not inherently bad, stupid or useless. It more depends how you use them.
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Laurend224 wrote: »Although this detours somewhat from the OP, and given that there is some discussion about this, I'm wondering where I land in terms of categories and labels. I love meat and ate it freely all my life but over the past three years have only been eating fish and eggs in terms of meat etc. That said, it's not exactly vegetarian and not vegan....so I guess it just is what it is without label. Very liberating.
Ovo-pescatarian?
That's what I would call it.
I kind of agree with the 'no need to label' sentiment, but sometimes labels are helpful for communication; ovo-pescatarian compresses a full sentence into one word.
Yeah, until you have to explain whatever the heck it means to someone who isn't down with the lingo...so silly.
Yeah... Or you could sound silly if they knew the term already and you just used a full sentence to describe it to them. Can't win really.
Yes you can. Don't use stupid labels to explain what you eat to people. A simple "I prefer the fish tonight" is sufficient. I mean, really, who cares?
I think it depends on the situation and who you are talking to; if someone is directly asking you about your dietary preferences then they care at least a little, and it might be useful to have a succinct way of putting it i.e. I'm an "X" (as long as you think the person would understand what you mean - which could be hard to judge). If you are just ordering food, then no; there is no need to announce it to everyone.
Ovo-pescatarian as a label is a bit more obscure and probably less useful/required than vegetarian or vegan, but I don't think it is entirely without merit - especially in the vegetarian/vegan communities.
"I eat whatever I want- but mostly chicken, red meat and veggies.
And ice cream.
pizza and beer.
I eat fish occasionally- but unless it's sushi I don't order it. "
easy.- I just explained what I ate and how I like to eat- without a label
why? because you don't need one.
No you don't, but that's not what I'm arguing. I'm not saying labels are necessary, just that they are not inherently bad, stupid or useless. It more depends how you use them.
Agreed.
I don't really care how someone wants to describe their dietary preferences - it's not only a label, but its also a descriptor. I do get irritated when 'labels' are used incorrectly however as it causes confusion.
However, I find it convenient to use these 'labels'. If someone thinks it's stupid or takes issue when I call myself a vegetarian on occasion when it is convenient (because well, I am a vegetarian), then well, that's kind of silly imo.0 -
I have been vegetarian for 5 years, but due to a peanut allergy I felt tired alot. A blood test result came back the way I expected, I was anemic! As I was vegetarian from 12-17 years I thought this could also be the result of the growing I did. But it wasn't and I slowly started to eat meat again.
I noticed that (for my body) it was best to eat meat a few days per week, but I try to eat organic meat most of the time. I also eat only 150 grams meat per "meatday", and keep my vegetarian days strictly vegetarian. I sometimes eat more meat and sometimes more vegetarian, depending on leftovers, but also because I love to experiment! Grab some herbs, spices or sauces and play with tofu.
Tip; Soy sauce (I use the low-natrium kind), grind cumin seeds, some chili and garlic -> slice the tofu and let it soak for a few hours, then bake them crunchy in a frying pan with olive oil or in the oven, delicious!-1 -
Oh and btw, I Eat what I like, and what feels good to me. I did a nutrition course and there are good and bad things to say for almost everything! The most important thing is that you don't over-do it, "the amount makes the poison" we call it. Even water can poison you when you drink too much (Okay, 8 liters in 1 hour, but still).
If you feel right about yourself, your body feels right, and your lifestyle feels right, then that's right for you. Every body is different, the first can't handle lactose, the second one hurts when eating bread, and the last one feels like eating meat is wrong. There are not only physical things that feel wrong, also mental things. Else there wouldn't be vegans, vegetarians, fruitivores etcetera.
YOU are the only one that should decide what to do with YOUR body, ofcourse you should/can listen to others, but unless YOU see the need to change, you shouldn't.-1
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