Mediterranean / Paleo Life Style Change

PaleoPath4Lyfe

I do this myself. Most people that are "lactose intolerant" are able to consume raw milk products, so this leads me to the hypothesis that something in the homogenization and pasteurization process causes the milk sugar (lactose) to change which causes the intolerance.

lol no. Where dd you get that crap?

http://grist.org/article/2010-11-01-raw-milk-mystery-new-stanford-study-indicates-it-doesnt-reduce/

From a LOT of people that have been diagnosed with Lactose intolerance and are able to consume raw dairy products.

Raw milk contains Bifidobacteria, which is a probiotic and creates its own lactase in those that are lacking the enzyme. Therefore the reason as to why they are able to consume raw dairy, but not commercial dairy.

Much like consuming fermented foods for gut health.

DatMurse

I do this myself. Most people that are "lactose intolerant" are able to consume raw milk products, so this leads me to the hypothesis that something in the homogenization and pasteurization process causes the milk sugar (lactose) to change which causes the intolerance.

lol no. Where dd you get that crap?

http://grist.org/article/2010-11-01-raw-milk-mystery-new-stanford-study-indicates-it-doesnt-reduce/

From a LOT of people that have been diagnosed with Lactose intolerance and are able to consume raw dairy products.

Because lactose somehow disappears when its raw?
or it could be something else.

EverytimeI take a someone drinks lactose free milk they are fine. know what the difference is? Lactase.

please stop

bumblebums

OP... look, you do not need to justify to anyone why you avoid certain foods. Just a simple "I don't like it" will do. You'll have a much easier time on the forums if you do not perpetuate misinformation that you got from the craziest corners of the internet. People will call you on it here.

jenn26point2

Hey Everyone, I haven't gotten around to introducing myself yet but my name's Ed, and I'm 25 years old. I work two jobs and go to school full time - needless to say I don't have much time to do anything lol.

Anyways - I was looking into a new lifestyle change (because the words diet plan only mean a temporary solution, and I'm looking to not only get into shape, but to stay in shape and to better myself as a whole). I went around and felt that a lot of diets and nutrition plans are rather unrealistic for anyone who is super busy, because it's a pain to have to count your calories and carb intake 24/7 when you have a million other things to do.

**Trying to keep this short**

I wanted to see what others may have to say about my new venture into a theory I believe will work for weight loss, muscle building, and bettering my health. I want to use food guidelines alongside with the Mediterranean and Paleo Diet(s) as a foundation for my food pyramid, and portion control myself to start with the use of Weight Watchers; after I feel comfortable, I will just portion control myself as I see fit.

I feel that the Mediterranean Diet is ideal for living a long and healthy life, but the Paleo diet focuses on what is bad for you and eliminating it. I simply don't agree that carbs and grains should be completely eliminated (hence the hybrid)

What do you all think? I will post a meal plan next week per day as a way of keeping track and getting criticism, so it can motivate me.

Paleo does not eliminate carbs. It eliminates grains and refined/processed sugars. All other carbs are 100% accepted.

jenn26point2

I do this myself. Most people that are "lactose intolerant" are able to consume raw milk products, so this leads me to the hypothesis that something in the homogenization and pasteurization process causes the milk sugar (lactose) to change which causes the intolerance.

lol no. Where dd you get that crap?

http://grist.org/article/2010-11-01-raw-milk-mystery-new-stanford-study-indicates-it-doesnt-reduce/

From a LOT of people that have been diagnosed with Lactose intolerance and are able to consume raw dairy products.

Because lactose somehow disappears when its raw?
or it could be something else.

EverytimeI take a someone drinks lactose free milk they are fine. know what the difference is? Lactase.

please stop

Lactose does not disappear when it's raw, but LACTASE, the enzyme that breaks down lactose is still present in raw milk. It is not present in milk you find in stores. The presence of lactase in raw milk makes it possible for those who are lactose intolerant to be able to consume milk.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

"What type of insight on your incorrect statement were you looking for? Should I have my cat write a thesis on his love for milk?"

Try elaborating or adding to the conversation rather than posting a minute contradicting statement. This topic is about my plans of the diet, not someone poking about a single little misstatement. I wasn't here for someone to correct me on my biology knowledge with a simple statement. I'll take things into consideration and take back my statements if someone explains it a bit, but a blunt comment like that is rather rude.

Maybe if you simply gave me some info on why dairy IS good for you (aside form calcium and vitamins) it would have been better received. If your cat wrote me a thesis statement on his love for milk, hopefully it won't be as rude as your comments.

Thanks anyway, I will remit my former statement because I simply forgot that cats drink milk, because I was basing my presumption on the knowledge I do know that a large portion of adult cats are, in fact, lactose intolerant.

I never said dairy is good for you. I think that is a debatable topic. But it has nothing to do with humans being the only animals that drink milk after being weaned, which we are not. And even if we were I don't see how that would be a factor in determining whether it was good for us. There are a number of diet related things that only humans do, some are healthy and some are not.

Aside from the calcium and vitamins I doubt dairy does have much to offer from a health perspective other than calories. Nutrients and calories are why we need food.

What exactly is the deleterious mechanism in milk that makes it unhealthy?

Casein

what genius reason did you come up with that?

Do your own reading on why casein protein is not as good as we were once led to believe.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

I do this myself. Most people that are "lactose intolerant" are able to consume raw milk products, so this leads me to the hypothesis that something in the homogenization and pasteurization process causes the milk sugar (lactose) to change which causes the intolerance.

lol no. Where dd you get that crap?

http://grist.org/article/2010-11-01-raw-milk-mystery-new-stanford-study-indicates-it-doesnt-reduce/

From a LOT of people that have been diagnosed with Lactose intolerance and are able to consume raw dairy products.

Because lactose somehow disappears when its raw?
or it could be something else.

EverytimeI take a someone drinks lactose free milk they are fine. know what the difference is? Lactase.

please stop

Well you deleted the rest of my post to make your arbitrary point.

Please stop yourself.

amonkey794

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6H2edyPLU8

Here you go.

DatMurse

I do this myself. Most people that are "lactose intolerant" are able to consume raw milk products, so this leads me to the hypothesis that something in the homogenization and pasteurization process causes the milk sugar (lactose) to change which causes the intolerance.

lol no. Where dd you get that crap?

http://grist.org/article/2010-11-01-raw-milk-mystery-new-stanford-study-indicates-it-doesnt-reduce/

From a LOT of people that have been diagnosed with Lactose intolerance and are able to consume raw dairy products.

Because lactose somehow disappears when its raw?
or it could be something else.

EverytimeI take a someone drinks lactose free milk they are fine. know what the difference is? Lactase.

please stop

Lactose does not disappear when it's raw, but LACTASE, the enzyme that breaks down lactose is still present in raw milk. It is not present in milk you find in stores. The presence of lactase in raw milk makes it possible for those who are lactose intolerant to be able to consume milk.

so if people have adapted to raw milk over hundreds of years to keep producing lactase. Why would raw milk now have lactase in it?

rofl @ these ppl

DatMurse

I do this myself. Most people that are "lactose intolerant" are able to consume raw milk products, so this leads me to the hypothesis that something in the homogenization and pasteurization process causes the milk sugar (lactose) to change which causes the intolerance.

lol no. Where dd you get that crap?

http://grist.org/article/2010-11-01-raw-milk-mystery-new-stanford-study-indicates-it-doesnt-reduce/

From a LOT of people that have been diagnosed with Lactose intolerance and are able to consume raw dairy products.

Raw milk contains Bifidobacteria, which is a probiotic and creates its own lactase in those that are lacking the enzyme. Therefore the reason as to why they are able to consume raw dairy, but not commercial dairy.

Much like consuming fermented foods for gut health.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/027153179502004F
no, it is less efficient the older you get

CookNLift

OP... look, you do not need to justify to anyone why you avoid certain foods. Just a simple "I don't like it" will do. You'll have a much easier time on the forums if you do not perpetuate misinformation that you got from the craziest corners of the internet. People will call you on it here.

That is what I'm hoping for actually. There are so many theories out there, and I want people to see what I'm trying to do, and call me out on the stuff they know for a fact is false, so I can learn more. This is all new to me, and I want to make sure what I'm doing is good for me, and have the creases ironed out.

....though, this whole milk, lactose, lactase thing has escalated rather quickly and gotten away from what I've been trying to do. I am simply minimizing milk bc of my personal beliefs on it, at this point, there really is no right or wrong answer so I'm going to go with my instinct on it.

shannashannabobana

Do they sell organic grass fed milk - cheese

Selling raw milk is illegal in my state unless you do a cow share or other sneaky things. I think you can buy raw goats milk though.

Raw milk cheese is easier to get, but it has to be aged cheese I think. A lot of this depends on the law in your state. I think it's easier to get that stuff in Europe.

Grass fed is a bit easier, you can buy grass fed butter a lot of places and whole foods carrys grass fed beef.

I would love to make my own cheese, but I make due with the regular stuff. I don't think it's that big a deal. Sometimes you have to make comprimises and anythings better than a twinkie.