What is the 1200 calorie based on?
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RunRutheeRun wrote: »sunnyside1213 wrote: »Guys, us shorties need less food. I am 5"1". My TDEE - 20% - 1036 calories. If I eat over this, I gain weight. If I want to lose, I have to stick to about 900 to 950 a day and it it really slow. No way I can eat 1200 calories a day.
And I only have 1" on you for height, my TDEE is 2200. Everyone is different. I move A LOT ☺
I can lose eating 1600-1800 cals a day.
geez I wish! I'm 5"8 and my tdee is 1540ish calories. I don't exercise though.
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I think the basic 1200 is if you just exist on the couch 24/7. I haven't seen any publications on it. I'm sure if you are into some research you might try google scholar as a google means. I tried 1200 cals and I can't lose at that weight. If I up it to 14-1500 I can. And I feel better. I get zapped at 1200. And I really want to build endurance to must up the calories. Take care of yourself.0
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WalkingAlong wrote: »
I think her goal puts her at the very bottom of 'healthy BMI', which isn't my thing but she appears to be an adult, so I'm not going to judge. Same with 900, since either she's an outlier in calorie burns or underestimating intake, or both. And we all do that latter.WalkingAlong wrote: »Gia- There is a strong belief here that losing slower retains muscle and that is everyone's number one priority (or should be). I know it's not everyone's and I believe that you can't really make a huge difference in what type of tissue you lose when comparing two shallow deficits, but that's just based on my own reading. It's not like losing 1/4 lb. a week is a guarantee it's all fat and losing a 1/2 lb. is all muscle, which is what many attitudes here seem to imply. The medical community considers either a safe rate of loss.
The problem is that she's trying to lose enough weight to get her down to an unhealthy BMI of <18.5, and she wants to do it so quickly that she's limiting herself to 900 calories per day.
I just am tired of the advice that "an extremely shallow deficit is the ONLY RIGHT deficit, for anyone with X or less pounds to lose." She said x lbs/month doesn't suit her goals. Who knows what her goals are.
First, I was not giving advice.
Second, I just stated I was confused by the 1200 calorie question
Third, I do not have a large deficit
Fourth You do not know my goals or anything else except I want to lose 10 lbs.
Fifth BMI between 19 and 20 is not unhealthy if you are 21.8 BMI now.
I got attacked pretty hard here!
Do you plead da fif?
Fif?
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WalkingAlong wrote: »
I think her goal puts her at the very bottom of 'healthy BMI', which isn't my thing but she appears to be an adult, so I'm not going to judge. Same with 900, since either she's an outlier in calorie burns or underestimating intake, or both. And we all do that latter.WalkingAlong wrote: »Gia- There is a strong belief here that losing slower retains muscle and that is everyone's number one priority (or should be). I know it's not everyone's and I believe that you can't really make a huge difference in what type of tissue you lose when comparing two shallow deficits, but that's just based on my own reading. It's not like losing 1/4 lb. a week is a guarantee it's all fat and losing a 1/2 lb. is all muscle, which is what many attitudes here seem to imply. The medical community considers either a safe rate of loss.
The problem is that she's trying to lose enough weight to get her down to an unhealthy BMI of <18.5, and she wants to do it so quickly that she's limiting herself to 900 calories per day.
I just am tired of the advice that "an extremely shallow deficit is the ONLY RIGHT deficit, for anyone with X or less pounds to lose." She said x lbs/month doesn't suit her goals. Who knows what her goals are.
First, I was not giving advice.
Second, I just stated I was confused by the 1200 calorie question
Third, I do not have a large deficit
Fourth You do not know my goals or anything else except I want to lose 10 lbs.
Fifth BMI between 19 and 20 is not unhealthy if you are 21.8 BMI now.
I got attacked pretty hard here!
Do you plead da fif?
Fif?
F-I-F Fif!
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Who knows? I guess if it works for you and you don't suffer any negative side effects. I'm a 6ft 280 lb male and I start gaining in 1200-1500 range. I am on a break from trying to lose for a while. I have been eating 2000 calories per day and set to regain months of weight loss in less than two weeks.0
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You might want to re-read. I was defending you, not attacking you. That whole post you just replied to point by point was my comment to the person who ridiculed your goals, not to you.WalkingAlong wrote: »
I think her goal puts her at the very bottom of 'healthy BMI', which isn't my thing but she appears to be an adult, so I'm not going to judge. Same with 900, since either she's an outlier in calorie burns or underestimating intake, or both. And we all do that latter.WalkingAlong wrote: »Gia- There is a strong belief here that losing slower retains muscle and that is everyone's number one priority (or should be). I know it's not everyone's and I believe that you can't really make a huge difference in what type of tissue you lose when comparing two shallow deficits, but that's just based on my own reading. It's not like losing 1/4 lb. a week is a guarantee it's all fat and losing a 1/2 lb. is all muscle, which is what many attitudes here seem to imply. The medical community considers either a safe rate of loss.
The problem is that she's trying to lose enough weight to get her down to an unhealthy BMI of <18.5, and she wants to do it so quickly that she's limiting herself to 900 calories per day.
I just am tired of the advice that "an extremely shallow deficit is the ONLY RIGHT deficit, for anyone with X or less pounds to lose." She said x lbs/month doesn't suit her goals. Who knows what her goals are.
First, I was not giving advice.
Second, I just stated I was confused by the 1200 calorie question
Third, I do not have a large deficit
Fourth You do not know my goals or anything else except I want to lose 10 lbs.
Fifth BMI between 19 and 20 is not unhealthy if you are 21.8 BMI now.
I got attacked pretty hard here!
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christinev297 wrote: »RunRutheeRun wrote: »sunnyside1213 wrote: »Guys, us shorties need less food. I am 5"1". My TDEE - 20% - 1036 calories. If I eat over this, I gain weight. If I want to lose, I have to stick to about 900 to 950 a day and it it really slow. No way I can eat 1200 calories a day.
And I only have 1" on you for height, my TDEE is 2200. Everyone is different. I move A LOT ☺
I can lose eating 1600-1800 cals a day.
geez I wish! I'm 5"8 and my tdee is 1540ish calories. I don't exercise though.
that's your answer then
I love to eat and I enjoy all the calories I get so I am very happy to exercise - and my body is lean and strong which is a great side effect from all the workouts 
give it a go? you'll be glad you did 0 -
Who knows? I guess if it works for you and you don't suffer any negative side effects. I'm a 6ft 280 lb male and I start gaining in 1200-1500 range. I am on a break from trying to lose for a while. I have been eating 2000 calories per day and set to regain months of weight loss in less than two weeks.
I had an unusually similar experience last year, with the exception that I would not gain at 2k. I'm about 5'7" and was around 185 lbs. I was losing at a slow pace, which is good for me, but I got frustrated and thought I would cut calories further in order to increase weight loss speed. So I cut back my calorie intake from 1.9k to 1.5k in hopes of losing faster. What actually happened is that I started gaining weight... fast. After 3 weeks of consistent gains, I returned to the original 1.9k and started losing again. Some have and will continue to call me a liar, but that is what really happened to me.0 -
Who knows? I guess if it works for you and you don't suffer any negative side effects. I'm a 6ft 280 lb male and I start gaining in 1200-1500 range. I am on a break from trying to lose for a while. I have been eating 2000 calories per day and set to regain months of weight loss in less than two weeks.
It is extremely unlikely that a 29 year old male would gain weight eating 1500 calories. Under 2000 calories for that matter. You are likely eating more than you think.
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Who knows? I guess if it works for you and you don't suffer any negative side effects. I'm a 6ft 280 lb male and I start gaining in 1200-1500 range. I am on a break from trying to lose for a while. I have been eating 2000 calories per day and set to regain months of weight loss in less than two weeks.
You may want to talk to a doctor about that. At 6ft, 280 and 29yrs old, you should be losing at anything under 2800-3K0 -
acorsaut89 wrote: »
Nice, I've been missing some silly derp comments. lol.
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA omg -wipes tear- that was rewarding to see.0
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Have you checked out freelee on Youtube? She does a raw vegan diet and claims to have helped people with eating disorders. Not saying it's the right way for everyone, but maybe the lesser of two evils (obsessing about only eating vegan, has got to be better than obsessing about eating nothing).0
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hamlet1222 wrote: »Have you checked out freelee on Youtube? She does a raw vegan diet and claims to have helped people with eating disorders. Not saying it's the right way for everyone, but maybe the lesser of two evils (obsessing about only eating vegan, has got to be better than obsessing about eating nothing).
Obsessing is bad no matter what the obsession is about. Freelee's concepts are devoid of major nutritional needs and fail to provide entire macronutrient categories.
Bumping a necro thread to promote Freelee is really bad form.0 -
hamlet1222 wrote: »Have you checked out freelee on Youtube? She does a raw vegan diet and claims to have helped people with eating disorders. Not saying it's the right way for everyone, but maybe the lesser of two evils (obsessing about only eating vegan, has got to be better than obsessing about eating nothing).
FYI, Freelee has just transitioned to a different presentation of her eating disorder. She still champions deeply disordered thinking (for example, women are healthier if they're experiencing amenorrhea). Her plan is a terrible idea for people who are dealing with ED. Someone with an ED should seek professional help, not implement more food restrictions, demonize macronutrients, and dive into a community that is actively hostile to people carrying excess weight and promoting false beliefs about how the human body operates.0 -
I DO NOT HAVE DISTORED thinking. OMG... I am a small frame and I look leaner at 110.
What the hell??????
I will not die or nor am I unhealthy 1200. My energy is great and I feel great. There are examples of people that are not anorexic or attention seeking.
You don't know me and you have no idea of anything about me. Judements every where here for those that know more than most!
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This is strange. I am 5'4" and my stats are this:
Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) 1252
Daily calories to maintain weight (TDEE) 1503
Daily calories to loose 2.4 a months is 1202. 2.4 in a month is not nearly enough for me. I have to eat around 900 a day...
1200 for is maintaining really with a little exercise 3 times a week. MFP overestimates my goals.
??? sorry TDEE of 1503 is what you need to maintain, not 1200, why is 2.4 lbs/month not enough for someone in a healthy weight range already? any faster you will lose a lot of muscle, unless that is your goal, then go for it, but watch for the hair falling our and bad skin, nails, etc.
And I would venture to guess that your TDEE of 1503 is excluding exercise, so on 3 days per week your maintenance would be higher.
Eating 900 is not good given your stats, there is no way to get your needed macros (fat and protein) as well as micros (vitamins and minerals) on only 900 cals. Lose slower, be healthier and maintain more muscle while losing, win, win, win.0
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