Depression and Weight Loss
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safe hugs @ObsidianMist I sincerely hope the tide changes in your favor SOON.0
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thanks guys. I eventually treated myself to a blizzard from dairy queen for dinner, and I had my support group that I facilitate that night which kind of helped. I still feel like things are up in the air and could take a turn for the worse at any moment. it's not a fun way to live. I'm so unmotivated to do any of the things I have to do. ugh0
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@ObsidianMist you are not alone, my comrade. although, i can eat. oh, lordy, how i can eat
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I hope you all are well.
I'm just having one of those days today. I feel confused about a lot of things and don't know where to turn. I know I'm only 21 but sometimes it feels too late to figure things out. I work so hard and I'm not sure what I'm working for or towards.0 -
Hang in there gem. I understand that it may "feel" too late..... but it's never too late.yourhiddengem wrote: »I hope you all are well.
I'm just having one of those days today. I feel confused about a lot of things and don't know where to turn. I know I'm only 21 but sometimes it feels too late to figure things out. I work so hard and I'm not sure what I'm working for or towards.
it better not be, cause i'm 47! HA!
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I am doing well, but i think the medicine wiped me out. so I'm trying spreading it out per doctors suggestion. it seems to be better. it was hard to get up but I'm not falling asleep at my desk0
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Hey Group,
It is interesting that we become quite philisophical when we face so many challenges and the road ahead seems so incredibly bumpy and long. We produce feelings of futility, frustration and even anger and resentment and create thought processes which question meaning and purpose. Our lives deserve to be understood and so our brains fill in the gap when the answers are not available or the answers are too simplistic. For example, if I don't think I should be down and/or stressed and I shouldn't have to struggle with weight as much as I have in life, somehow I feel angry and sad. Then I move quickly to the the train of thought that life is as hard as I know it is and that just doesn't seem fair or right. Believe me....I follow this process all of the time.
What I think is unhelpful with this strategy is that, my life is not a "given". I cannot expect happiness, fame and fortune, great outcomes and life without barriers and challenges. If these things are to occur I know deep down, I will have to really consider the choices I am making and consider, seriously, the context, in which I am making these choices. Learning to notice feelings but not let them consume me and blow me off track is the hardest part. It is also the most necessary part as feelings drive our decision making in most instances. For example, I was at the gym this morning and didn't feel like doing anything. I was so tempted to just get out of that torture chamber and go for a snack. I literally forced my mind to think about the consequences of not working out and eating crap vs the pain of staying and pushing this old body around a bit at the gym. I just thanked that annoying voice in my head that tries to make me comfortable and safe (and full) but now was not the time to listen to that seductive part of me. So....my body got what it needed... not what it wanted.
My lovely friends, think for a moment about how you are not at the mercy of a mood, a thought, a feeling. Let yourself move to a new rhythm and pace because you can do it. Your life DOES have meaning and purpose. It is no greater or less than the meaning you give it. You are what you think you are and you will do what you ask of yourself. Let's be all that we can be.
Shel
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Just stopping by to wish you a beautiful start to the week.
You are all beautiful and unique people and you're worth it!!!
Much love.
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Hey Everyone,
I wonder how everyone is doing? The thread seems quiet these days. When nothing is happening, I imagine a lot is going on. Life never stands still.
Hope all is well
Shel
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shelleygold wrote: »Hey Everyone,
I wonder how everyone is doing? The thread seems quiet these days. When nothing is happening, I imagine a lot is going on. Life never stands still.
Hope all is well
Shel
Hi!
I'm doing well today and yesterday. I didn't sleep at all last week and it was a very bad week but then I started doing acupuncture and it really helped so far. Of course it's only two sessions in but I hope I will keep having benefits from it. I'm feeling hopeful.
I hope everyone else is having a great week.
Misty
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shelleygold wrote: »Hey Everyone,
I wonder how everyone is doing? The thread seems quiet these days. When nothing is happening, I imagine a lot is going on. Life never stands still.
Hope all is well
Shel
I was away from MFP for a while because I wasn't doing so well. I came back when I was still very down, not sleeping, constantly anxious, crying a lot, not completing my assignments. and eating a lot. Especially junk food. I forced myself to log "no matter what" so I could see exactly what I was doing to myself.
I don't know if that helped or it was just time but I managed to start eating less and more healthily again a couple days ago. I'm still worried about how the missed & incomplete assignments will impact my grade & overal gpa, but I'm trying to just focus on what I can do. I'm trying to pull myself out of it, and be more active. I'm trying to tell the part of me that thinks I'm worthless trash that it's wrong, and I deserve kindness and not to self sabotage everything because of my failures. It's been a very loud part of me lately, so I'm trying to at least argue back.
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i've just been busy but doing pretty well. medicine side effects are going away and it helps a lot0
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shelleygold wrote: »Why I am eating marshmallows this week. I seem to move from one type of bad food to another. I wonder if you have ever thought that we tend to sabotage our success and/or we just cannot maintain consistency. Is this depressed thinking or just lack of discipline. The results of weight gain can be depressing; not necessarily in a mental health sense but more in the idea that overweight people make really bad choices. Deliberately?
What do you think?
That's exactly the reason why I'm trolling the threads. To find answers to this question. Mine's not depression, more like anxiety. Are we subconsciously and deliberately sabotaging ourselves? I think our minds go into a defensive mode when we start ignoring how it copes by not eating impulsively or cutting out comfort/trigger food. I'm trying to treat my body like a machine and totally detaching myself from any emotional aspect of eating. No more"not in the mood" for ANYTHING that involves eating until I get a grip, I don't get that luxury. My brain invents scenarios that have never happened, I over react, I get angry easily. All so my body can eat a hash brown sandwich? No more of this bull!1 -
I moved into my boyfriend's place yesterday, so been busy. doing alright. things have been good between us. my eating's been all over the place though, and as a result my weight's been all over the place. super annoying. need to get back on schedule and make myself stick to eating lower calorie stuff even if my boyfriend wants to eat different food.0
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I'm hanging in there. some days better than others. true, life never stands still. I'm trying to accept it as it comes, and face reality rather than deny it. some days are better than othersshelleygold wrote: »Hey Everyone,
I wonder how everyone is doing? The thread seems quiet these days. When nothing is happening, I imagine a lot is going on. Life never stands still.
Hope all is well
Shel
@moyer566 I'm glad the side effects are going away
@ObsidianMist I'm glad things are good with your boyfriend. i understand the difficulty of eating what is good for your body when those around you are not
@kae612 welcome back! I hope the recent trend of turning things around continues for you.
@yourhiddengem I'm so happy to hear that acupuncture is helping you. it's one of the few things i have not yet tried. i hope that continues for you too.0 -
I just started antidepressants about 6 weeks ago, and though I have known for a long time that I needed to lose weight, it took a stomach bug to kick start my weight loss and the antidepressants to kick in for me to actually care enough again to keep it going. Depression definitely makes things hard.0
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I struggle with depression and I have digestive issues such as being lactose intolerant. My doctor put me on an elimination diet and that really helped. My overall mood is better, my acne has cleared and my stomach doesn't hurt as much. If you do it for about 2-3 weeks without exercising you can lose around a total of 11 pounds. Basically, you don't eat beef, shellfish, peanuts, sugars, soda, dairy, grains and soy. Here's a link if you're interested: http://www.precisionnutrition.com/elimination-diet0
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Candida diet can be beneficial for all sorts of health issues as well as mental well being. Ive also just read a very interesting article on direct links between lithium levels in the body and its relation to mental health. I am medicated for depression (prozac) but feel strongly that everything in nature has an antidote and am exploring other ways to support my mental health. Every day is a new day and a fresh start... good luck with your journey, the support on here is fantastic.0
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We are all on the Titanic. With no lifeboats. Every single one of us is going to die. But how do you want to live? How much happiness can you have eating yourself into immobility? Huffing and puffing up stairs? Never jumping in the pool or going for a long hike or going out dancing? Disliking the person you see in the mirror?
Weigh that against the joy of stuffing your face and make your decision. Pun most definitely intended.
Some people will dislike who they see in the mirror regardless of weight, this is actually an incredibly hurtful statement for someone who is living with depression or body dysmorphia. To suggest that losing weight would cure depression and suddenly make a life you find worthwhile is harmful thinking. More often than not, the "joy" in "stuffing [ones] face" is not at all a joy.0 -
It is true that those alone will not outright cure depression, but I have noticed improved symptoms on a series of supplements (won't go into detail, what works for me may not work for others). I have actually managed to drop a couple pounds for the first time in over a year without a crash diet, and I'm finding more energy which was always the worst symptom of my depression: constant fatigue. Now with more energy I can actually manage a 20-30 minute walk every couple of days. I'm seeing some improvements, especially in my level of positivity toward the future. Just saying, they may be worth a try if you don't eat a super balanced diet, I know I don't!
The science isn't garbage, just lacking. Not a ton of studies, not a lot done with large enough sample groups. One if the supplements I'm trying only showed clinical promise in ONE study but there simply wasn't a repeat done. It was found to be equally as helpful as an SSRI I recently decided wasn't helping me enough. There is indeed a lot of bad info and bad supplements out there, just wanted to give my two cents.0 -
@68myra I've been told that acupuncture would maybe help by different people on occasion but it wasn't until I tried like everything else (regular counselors - many different ones, yoga, exercise, medication, supplements, hospitalizations/hospital programs, different outpatient/partial programs, trauma yoga, EMDR, ect) that I was desperate to try it. I only tried it because the other week I got two out of seven nights of sleep. In five days I only got 5 hours of sleep total cause my body was so stressed. So I was desperate. I was completely shocked that it seems to be helping but very thankful also. I mean I don't really understand how it could be helping so when I have more energy I should really read up on it but it's been nice to find something that didn't requite me to "do" anything besides show up in order to reap some benefits.0
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It is true that those alone will not outright cure depression, but I have noticed improved symptoms on a series of supplements (won't go into detail, what works for me may not work for others). I have actually managed to drop a couple pounds for the first time in over a year without a crash diet, and I'm finding more energy which was always the worst symptom of my depression: constant fatigue. Now with more energy I can actually manage a 20-30 minute walk every couple of days. I'm seeing some improvements, especially in my level of positivity toward the future. Just saying, they may be worth a try if you don't eat a super balanced diet, I know I don't!
The science isn't garbage, just lacking. Not a ton of studies, not a lot done with large enough sample groups. One if the supplements I'm trying only showed clinical promise in ONE study but there simply wasn't a repeat done. It was found to be equally as helpful as an SSRI I recently decided wasn't helping me enough. There is indeed a lot of bad info and bad supplements out there, just wanted to give my two cents.
On some days, taking my B complex definitely makes me feel less homocidal
life is hard, depression sucks, but I have to admit, there are days when I can definitely feel the difference after having my B in the morning. Which gets me thinking; I haven't taken it in weeks and my mood has been incredibly low. Gotta remember it tomorrow. 0 -
Soooo.... Just here to vent. Met with shrink this morning and decided to try, again, something I've used in the past with success..... Get to the pharmacy expecting to pay $70. & they say I owe $192. Since I'm building up the dosage....this will last about 3 weeks. Yikes. I left it there. I truly wonder if this med roulette is worth it.
Ok, vent over. Thanx :-)0 -
Soooo.... Just here to vent. Met with shrink this morning and decided to try, again, something I've used in the past with success..... Get to the pharmacy expecting to pay $70. & they say I owe $192. Since I'm building up the dosage....this will last about 3 weeks. Yikes. I left it there. I truly wonder if this med roulette is worth it.
Ok, vent over. Thanx :-)
Aw
That sucks about the price thing. I REALLY hope this route you're taking ends up helping though *hugs* 0 -
Soooo.... Just here to vent. Met with shrink this morning and decided to try, again, something I've used in the past with success..... Get to the pharmacy expecting to pay $70. & they say I owe $192. Since I'm building up the dosage....this will last about 3 weeks. Yikes. I left it there. I truly wonder if this med roulette is worth it.
Ok, vent over. Thanx :-)
Lord no, I think. I wouldn't have paid it either! I'm pretty much going to ignore any doctors that suggest I take medication for depression ever again. I've learnt my lessons.0 -
thanks for the support, guys.
I called my insurance and it appears they are charging me a "penalty" for not ordering the generic. I told the rep that I've tried generic (when it first came out) and it didn't work for me. She is going to apply for a "penalty waiver" after hearing from my dr. and get back to me. I am glad I'm finding this ridiculously amusing, and i'm not in a puddle of tears. (thanks, brintellix?)
@brb_2013 I truly wish i could forgo medication. I've tried several times and it has always been very ugly. I do wonder if i've been taking meds for so very long (on/off for 30 years, mostly on for last 20), my brain will never be able to cope without some chemical. I have friends having success with medicinal pot, but i'm in NC
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@68myra me too, I'll probably always be on something. the chemicals in my brain are off.
pot makes me anxious and nauseous.
exercise is an additional treatment that helps me feel better.
myra saw this already but if anyone needs a giggle
funny running memes
a few more
new runner/new workout funny
feeling down, listen to kevin hart, or better yet run with kevin
hope i brightened a few days. researching this made me happy0 -
Hi Everyone,
Depression and Anxiety over time, can overtake our entire thought processes and decision making and medication can and does alter the extreme versions of both. The most impressive studies which are often cited singing the praises of a wide of range of pharmaceutical psychotropic medication indicate significant improvements for the truly clinically depressed and anxious. It is interesting to note however, that the more moderate cases of individuals who experience depression and anxiety (and this accounts for the vast majority of us) are not significantly impacted by most medications and in fact compare in a rather intriguing way to the benefits of placebo. The wild claims that were made my companies which produced drugs such as Effexor and Zoloft have led to enormous class action suits which have cost the pharmaceutical millions of dollars in terms of compensation. Sadly, the studies conducted by these companies were not released and shared as freely when the results were not favourable and this has meant that professional world-wide have been mislead. I am NOT opposed to medication. I am just weary that there is not a panacea with reference to the medical world. I think those of us who are depressed and anxious have come by these moods in VERY real ways in our upbringing, our traumas, our environmental challenges and our nutrition. Of course biology and genetics contribute but I think we need to put the spotlight on the social dimensions and causes of depression and anxiety and this allows us to feel hopeful that there is a lot we can do to change our brains. We have to understand the mechanisms of Depression and Anxiety and understand how we may have developed ways to generate these moods (unintentionally) in our minds. I am studying this as we speak so I will share more as I become more knowledgable and more confident.0 -
shelleygold wrote: »Hi Everyone,
Depression and Anxiety over time, can overtake our entire thought processes and decision making and medication can and does alter the extreme versions of both. The most impressive studies which are often cited singing the praises of a wide of range of pharmaceutical psychotropic medication indicate significant improvements for the truly clinically depressed and anxious. It is interesting to note however, that the more moderate cases of individuals who experience depression and anxiety (and this accounts for the vast majority of us) are not significantly impacted by most medications and in fact compare in a rather intriguing way to the benefits of placebo. The wild claims that were made my companies which produced drugs such as Effexor and Zoloft have led to enormous class action suits which have cost the pharmaceutical millions of dollars in terms of compensation. Sadly, the studies conducted by these companies were not released and shared as freely when the results were not favourable and this has meant that professional world-wide have been mislead. I am NOT opposed to medication. I am just weary that there is not a panacea with reference to the medical world. I think those of us who are depressed and anxious have come by these moods in VERY real ways in our upbringing, our traumas, our environmental challenges and our nutrition. Of course biology and genetics contribute but I think we need to put the spotlight on the social dimensions and causes of depression and anxiety and this allows us to feel hopeful that there is a lot we can do to change our brains. We have to understand the mechanisms of Depression and Anxiety and understand how we may have developed ways to generate these moods (unintentionally) in our minds. I am studying this as we speak so I will share more as I become more knowledgable and more confident.
Shel, I whole-heartedly agree with your statement, and I look forward to reading more about your studies. As for an anecdote..... I have experimented this past week with smiling. yes, I have smiled more this past week, whether i felt like it or not, sometimes it was genuine, more of the time it was "fake" or "forced" but, by cracky, it improved my overall mood. i'll take what i can get.... and this comes with no deleterious side effects! 0 -
Another reason why I love Myra. One of my highlights in my life! And you bring smiles to others. Because you are you!0
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