Juicing?

nerdswithswords
nerdswithswords Posts: 1
edited November 11 in Food and Nutrition
I love documentaries about health (open to suggestions) and have noticed a trend of juicing. A particularly popular documentary, fat sick and nearly dead, shows a man on a 60 juice fast.

Anyone here juice, fast, or do reboots? What's your opinion on it?
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  • Nikkiairforcewife
    Nikkiairforcewife Posts: 164 Member
    I've never done a juice fast. I loved that documentary. I think a juice fast is a great idea for cleansing and detoxing your body. I think anyone could benefit from a detoxing-- but 60 days is probably not for many people.
  • shaunsmoot
    shaunsmoot Posts: 37 Member
    I've never actually juiced, however I've read in several articles that it's a quick way to lose weight. Only to also learn that it's mostly water weight that is being lost. Most people tend to gain this weight back shortly after they start eating normally.
    Stick with MFP and it will help you keep it off for the long haul. MFP a lifestyle change not a quick fix!
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,260 Member
    Leave the fibre in and eat food, I know, not a revelation, but you get to chew food and use your teeth. Oh, and eat in a deficit if you want to lose weight.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    Nope
  • BraveNewdGirl
    BraveNewdGirl Posts: 937 Member
    There is absolutely no need for you to juice. As Neanderthin said, leave the fibre in and eat food! If you're looking to lose fat, eat at a caloric deficit. Your kidneys, liver and skin handle all the "cleansing" that your body requires. Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead is not so much a documentary as it is an infomercial.
  • Aviva92
    Aviva92 Posts: 2,333 Member
    edited January 2015
    sounds like a terrible idea. removing and throwing out all the fiber. what for? you can just eat fruits and vegetables whole instead, and track calories and eat at a deficit. it's extraordinarily easy to do.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    I don't see the point. Eat fruits and veggie plus other foods (like with protein).
  • Laurend224
    Laurend224 Posts: 1,748 Member
    I've never done a juice fast. I loved that documentary. I think a juice fast is a great idea for cleansing and detoxing your body. I think anyone could benefit from a detoxing-- but 60 days is probably not for many people.

    Your body doesn't need to be cleansed, or detoxed. You have organs that do that just fine without starving yourself on juice for days.

    OP, just eat your fruit/veg.
  • mallory_2014
    mallory_2014 Posts: 173 Member
    You miss out on far too many important nutrients if you are only going to drink juice. Eat healthy, learn how to prepare food and eat well, exercise, and you will lose weight and become healthier.
  • beemerphile1
    beemerphile1 Posts: 1,710 Member
    God intended fruits and vegetables to be consumed whole. Removing part of the food/fuel is silly.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    I love documentaries about health (open to suggestions) and have noticed a trend of juicing. A particularly popular commercial/mockumentary, fat sick and nearly dead, shows a man on a 60 juice fast.

    Anyone here juice, fast, or do reboots? What's your opinion on it?

    Fify.
  • BeastReborn
    BeastReborn Posts: 13 Member
    I watched it, I juice, but I've never done a juice fast, there's no need to do so. I eat fruit like crazy, but I'm not a fan of veggies. I like to juice a few carrots with a beet, drink it on down. Gives me all the vitamins and minerals that I'm not getting from the rest of my diet and I don't have to munch on carrots all day long.
  • leggup
    leggup Posts: 2,942 Member
    The guy in the "documentary" Fat, Sick, & Nearly Dead owns his own wellness brand, writes books, and is generally trying to take your money. There is not conclusive clinical proof that juicing cures/prevents cancer, which is what that documentary alluded to (and maybe even said directly- it's been a few years since I've seen it.

    Juicing is bunk at best. At worst, it's dangerous. Your body is not full of toxins. Drinking juice does not detoxify your body (your liver/digestive system/kidneys remove waste).

    Juicing removes fiber. A higher-fiber diet has been shown to lower blood cholesterol levels and prevent constipation. High-fiber foods also tend to contain more nutrients and fewer calories, are digested more slowly, and help us feel full sooner.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    The daughter of a good friend is into it and we had a long discussion. She has swallowed the kool-aid fully and insists that you absorb the nutrients better if the food is juiced and that removing the fiber allows your colon to dump all the stuff it has been holding on to. I got the usual list of "toxins" (dioxins, PCBs, bisphenol-A, DDT, phthalates, heavy metals, etc.). When I asked her about this; the fact that these come from pesticides and herbicides mostly and they are still present in her veggies, and how does juicing remove them when cooking and/or chewing raw does not, and I received silence. She also had no answer when I pointed out that your colon cleans itself best when you eat a high fiber diet and that humans generally have all food pass through within a 24-36 hour period. Nothing gets "stuck" unless you have a medical issue which causes weak walls in the colon that can create pockets for waste to accumulate. We compared 4 months of food diaries (including her 1 month juice fast) and they actually were very similar in the number of calories. I just ate a regular calorie amount each day where she had higher calorie amounts for months with one month of a very low calorie diet. Hers was much higher in carbs and much lower in fiber than mine. I would rather get some veggies in every day (along with my protein, fat, etc) rather than binge on veggies only for a month. I really think that can eventually throw things out of whack if you do it 4 times a year like she does.
  • aplcr0331
    aplcr0331 Posts: 186 Member
    If you really like Documentaries, then you must absolutely be disgusted by those films like "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead". That's not a Documentary. What those films are, can be referred to as Scaremockumentaries.

    And they work. Too well.
  • I personally watched maybe 10 minutes of the movie and can tell you it's junk for real facts. As people mentioned above juicing is a bad idea. I have done extensive research on it, and it's actually not as healthy as you would assume. Fiber is one thing you are throwing away which you need in order for your guts to function properly and second you are skipping the natural digestion of food. It's another grapefruit diet.

    If you do like to drink your food, just get one of those ninja blenders or a high amp blender and put everything in and blend, this way you are getting fiber nutrients and your stomach has something to breakdown other than liquid.
  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    NO!!
  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,585 Member
    SMH at the number of juice threads lately...

    I like to eat my fruits and vegetables. They make me feel fuller longer than juice and the fiber is good for my system.
  • trinatrina1984
    trinatrina1984 Posts: 1,018 Member
    There is absolutely no need for you to juice. As Neanderthin said, leave the fibre in and eat food! If you're looking to lose fat, eat at a caloric deficit. Your kidneys, liver and skin handle all the "cleansing" that your body requires. Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead is not so much a documentary as it is an infomercial.

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  • skullshank
    skullshank Posts: 4,323 Member
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  • errollmaclean
    errollmaclean Posts: 562 Member
    earlnabby wrote: »
    The daughter of a good friend is into it and we had a long discussion. She has swallowed the kool-aid fully and insists that you absorb the nutrients better if the food is juiced and that removing the fiber allows your colon to dump all the stuff it has been holding on to. I got the usual list of "toxins" (dioxins, PCBs, bisphenol-A, DDT, phthalates, heavy metals, etc.). When I asked her about this; the fact that these come from pesticides and herbicides mostly and they are still present in her veggies, and how does juicing remove them when cooking and/or chewing raw does not, and I received silence. She also had no answer when I pointed out that your colon cleans itself best when you eat a high fiber diet and that humans generally have all food pass through within a 24-36 hour period. Nothing gets "stuck" unless you have a medical issue which causes weak walls in the colon that can create pockets for waste to accumulate. We compared 4 months of food diaries (including her 1 month juice fast) and they actually were very similar in the number of calories. I just ate a regular calorie amount each day where she had higher calorie amounts for months with one month of a very low calorie diet. Hers was much higher in carbs and much lower in fiber than mine. I would rather get some veggies in every day (along with my protein, fat, etc) rather than binge on veggies only for a month. I really think that can eventually throw things out of whack if you do it 4 times a year like she does.

    ^^this!!
  • Spocky
    Spocky Posts: 62 Member
    I really liked the first move but when he talked about juicing I translated that as eating healthy. I did a little research and I realized that juicing is very expensive so instead of that I can eat more healthy and eat more vegetables instead of pasta or other carbs. He said that he almost died from some some kind of illnes related to toxins but normally people should not do what he did, I think.
  • SKME2013
    SKME2013 Posts: 704 Member
    edited January 2015
    I watched the movie. You can check, he persuaded one guy to follow his diet,which he did. That guy lost all his weight and then went on to teach other people about the benefit of juicing. Two years later...he had gained all the weight back and more...

    I do not juice, because a) it takes a hell of a lot of veggies to make the juice, b) juicing is very costly and c) you lose all the important fibres.

    I do though make myself smoothies with a blender. The reason for this is that I can get a lot of veggies into my body that I would not otherwise eat, such as 250g of daily spinach.

    Stef.
  • SKME2013
    SKME2013 Posts: 704 Member
    Here is the link to the story of the guy from Fat, Sick...who gained it all back:
    http://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-15359/i-was-the-poster-boy-for-weight-loss-then-i-gained-200-pounds.html
  • Aviva92
    Aviva92 Posts: 2,333 Member
    SKME2013 wrote: »
    I watched the movie. You can check, he persuaded one guy to follow his diet,which he did. That guy lost all his weight and then went on to teach other people about the benefit of juicing. Two years later...he had gained all the weight back and more...

    I do not juice, because a) it takes a hell of a lot of veggies to make the juice, b) juicing is very costly and c) you lose all the important fibres.

    I do though make myself smoothies with a blender. The reason for this is that I can get a lot of veggies into my body that I would not otherwise eat, such as 250g of daily spinach.

    Stef.

    so, instead of eating spinach in a way that tastes good, you blend it up to gross mush? that does not sound like fun eating.
  • jkal1979
    jkal1979 Posts: 1,896 Member
    PRMinx wrote: »
    SMH at the number of juice threads lately...

    I like to eat my fruits and vegetables. They make me feel fuller longer than juice and the fiber is good for my system.

    There is a sequel to Fat Sick and Nearly Dead out. I'm thinking that has something to do with it.
  • Juicing is not really as much about losing weight as it is about aiding in healing of the body. Of course it is not a cure all, but if you notice one of the common themes in the juicing success stories is that many people were taken off of their medicines by their doctor after they began juicing. After someone detoxes, the juice continues to give the maximum nutrition without the body having to work hard through digesting and detoxing. There are many many success stories on this that were done under a doctor's care and monitoring. The weight that he lost in the documentary was an added bonus. The motivation to heal his body this way came after he was put on a lot of medication for a condition he was diagnosed with but no longer suffers from.
  • trinatrina1984
    trinatrina1984 Posts: 1,018 Member
    tkwelby5 wrote: »
    Juicing is not really as much about losing weight as it is about aiding in healing of the body. Of course it is not a cure all, but if you notice one of the common themes in the juicing success stories is that many people were taken off of their medicines by their doctor after they began juicing. After someone detoxes, the juice continues to give the maximum nutrition without the body having to work hard through digesting and detoxing. There are many many success stories on this that were done under a doctor's care and monitoring. The weight that he lost in the documentary was an added bonus. The motivation to heal his body this way came after he was put on a lot of medication for a condition he was diagnosed with but no longer suffers from.

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  • altmancarole
    altmancarole Posts: 1 Member
    I have been juicing for just one day and have experienced a complete excretion of all that has been in my colon. I plan to continue for one week to see how much more gets excreted. I see the merit in doing juicing for this reason. Will
    probably transition from juicing to fruits in the morning and vegetables in the evening with the fiber for another week.
  • evileen99
    evileen99 Posts: 1,564 Member
    tkwelby5 wrote: »
    Juicing is not really as much about losing weight as it is about aiding in healing of the body. Of course it is not a cure all, but if you notice one of the common themes in the juicing success stories is that many people were taken off of their medicines by their doctor after they began juicing. After someone detoxes, the juice continues to give the maximum nutrition without the body having to work hard through digesting and detoxing. There are many many success stories on this that were done under a doctor's care and monitoring. The weight that he lost in the documentary was an added bonus. The motivation to heal his body this way came after he was put on a lot of medication for a condition he was diagnosed with but no longer suffers from.

    Bwahahaha that your body needs a break from all the "hard work" of digesting. Maybe your heart needs a break from the hard work of beating all the time?


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