Sugars & carbs from fruit
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azulvioleta6 wrote: »Sugar is sugar is sugar. Your body does not know the difference.
There are several different types of sugar, and your body will indeed know the difference. There are monosaccharides, disaccharides, polysaccharides and oligosaccharides. Might be more, can't remember. They definitely all behave differently when metabolized.0 -
Laurend224 wrote: »*raises hand* I did. Eating roughly 3000 calories of bananas a day, only bananas.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »The sugar in fruit is also at a lot lower calorie per ounce when compared to the doughnut.
Nope, the sugar in both is approximately 4 calories per gram.
The majority of calories in a donut, depending on the type, are probably from flour and especially fat.
In fact, I just pulled up the facts for a Dunkin Donut chocolate frosted donut, and compared it with a pretty normal-sized apple (170 grams) and found the following:
Sugar: donut=13 grams, apple=18 grams
Calories: donut-270, apple=88
Fat: donut=15 grams, apple=0
Protein: donut=3 grams, apple=0
Fiber: donut=1 gram, apple=4 grams
So it is certainly true (as we all knew) that a donut is more calories per oz than an apple, but it is NOT true that the sugar in the donut is somehow more caloric than that in the apple.
Of course, I somehow magically managed to get fat without caring about donuts, let alone eating them 24/7 as some here seem to think we all want to do.
So, if you want to cut down on sugar, stay away from apples and have a donut instead.0 -
but sugar is delicious.0
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Laurend224 wrote: »*raises hand* I did. Eating roughly 3000 calories of bananas a day, only bananas.
I fell for 30 bananas a day..... not my finest moment.0 -
Wow, I can't imagine how that's even possible. Still, it's probably better to binge on bananas than potato chips and ice cream...0
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I'm sure it was easy getting caught up in all the hoopla. I do see quite a bit of misinformation in vegan threads in general and I'm sure it's from a demographic that is looking to be enlightened.Laurend224 wrote: »Laurend224 wrote: »*raises hand* I did. Eating roughly 3000 calories of bananas a day, only bananas.
I fell for 30 bananas a day..... not my finest moment.
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I cannot. Cannot. Process the thought of eating 30 bananas a day. I don't think even monkeys eat that many. Wow!! I love bananas but the very thought of eating that many makes me quite ill!0
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Potassium overload surely??0
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beemerphile1 wrote: »The sugar in fruit is also at a lot lower calorie per ounce when compared to the doughnut.
The sugar in fruit is lower calorie then the sugar in a doughnut... now I've heard it all...
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azulvioleta6 wrote: »Sugar is sugar is sugar. Your body does not know the difference.
There are several different types of sugar, and your body will indeed know the difference. There are monosaccharides, disaccharides, polysaccharides and oligosaccharides. Might be more, can't remember. They definitely all behave differently when metabolized.
Correct. Processed sugars have more impact on the body because they are more easily digested/absorbed than natural sugars like in fruit. Ones body will absorb more of the processed sugars while the body will pass more of the natural sugar together with the fiber into one's scat.
In spite of the many closed minded people on here, there is a difference in digestible calories.
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beemerphile1 wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Sugar is sugar is sugar. Your body does not know the difference.
There are several different types of sugar, and your body will indeed know the difference. There are monosaccharides, disaccharides, polysaccharides and oligosaccharides. Might be more, can't remember. They definitely all behave differently when metabolized.
Correct. Processed sugars have more impact on the body because they are more easily digested/absorbed than natural sugars like in fruit. Ones body will absorb more of the processed sugars while the body will pass more of the natural sugar together with the fiber into one's scat.
In spite of the many closed minded people on here, there is a difference in digestible calories.
If you are eating at a calorie deficit (moderation) none of this will impact weight/fat loss, and probably health as well...
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beemerphile1 wrote: »The sugar in fruit is also at a lot lower calorie per ounce when compared to the doughnut.
The sugar in fruit is lower calorie then the sugar in a doughnut... now I've heard it all...
You need to reread the post. I was talking about a comparable size/weight apple and doughnut. The doughnut will have possibly three times more calories.
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beemerphile1 wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »The sugar in fruit is also at a lot lower calorie per ounce when compared to the doughnut.
The sugar in fruit is lower calorie then the sugar in a doughnut... now I've heard it all...
You need to reread the post. I was talking about a comparable size/weight apple and doughnut. The doughnut will have possibly three times more calories.
You need to choose your words better...
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lemurcat12 wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »The sugar in fruit is also at a lot lower calorie per ounce when compared to the doughnut.
Nope, the sugar in both is approximately 4 calories per gram.
The majority of calories in a donut, depending on the type, are probably from flour and especially fat.
In fact, I just pulled up the facts for a Dunkin Donut chocolate frosted donut, and compared it with a pretty normal-sized apple (170 grams) and found the following:
Sugar: donut=13 grams, apple=18 grams
Calories: donut-270, apple=88
Fat: donut=15 grams, apple=0
Protein: donut=3 grams, apple=0
Fiber: donut=1 gram, apple=4 grams
So it is certainly true (as we all knew) that a donut is more calories per oz than an apple, but it is NOT true that the sugar in the donut is somehow more caloric than that in the apple.
Of course, I somehow magically managed to get fat without caring about donuts, let alone eating them 24/7 as some here seem to think we all want to do.
So, if you want to cut down on sugar, stay away from apples and have a donut instead.
Really? That's what you got from this post?
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I know fruit for me is something I have to eat sparingly but veggies are something that you should never sacrifice if your on a low carb diet, they fill you up and they are typically low in calories0
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Sugar is sugar. You'll get more fiber and nutrition from fruit than, say, a candy bar, but sugar is still sugar.0
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I get a tummyache just thinking about 30 bananas.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »The sugar in fruit is also at a lot lower calorie per ounce when compared to the doughnut.
Nope, the sugar in both is approximately 4 calories per gram.
The majority of calories in a donut, depending on the type, are probably from flour and especially fat.
In fact, I just pulled up the facts for a Dunkin Donut chocolate frosted donut, and compared it with a pretty normal-sized apple (170 grams) and found the following:
Sugar: donut=13 grams, apple=18 grams
Calories: donut-270, apple=88
Fat: donut=15 grams, apple=0
Protein: donut=3 grams, apple=0
Fiber: donut=1 gram, apple=4 grams
So it is certainly true (as we all knew) that a donut is more calories per oz than an apple, but it is NOT true that the sugar in the donut is somehow more caloric than that in the apple.
Of course, I somehow magically managed to get fat without caring about donuts, let alone eating them 24/7 as some here seem to think we all want to do.
So, if you want to cut down on sugar, stay away from apples and have a donut instead.
Which is why the sugar-phobia is idiotic (and typically demonstrates a lack of understanding of the reasons for lowering added sugar given by the WHO et al.).0 -
I just really love ice cream....0
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I definitely gained weight by eating fruit.
Even over the last few years since I have started being careful about my diet, my weight jumps up every June when fruit is cheap, local and plentiful. I can easily gain ten pounds just by going from one fruit a day to three or four servings.
There is nothing in fruit that you can't get from vegetables.0 -
They taste different. I love most vegetables and eat a lot more of them than fruit, but delicious as it can be broccoli simply doesn't taste like a fresh, in season, peach or strawberry, and can't substitute for them, so pitting them against each other seems odd. It's quite easy to fit fruit calories into one's diet if one likes, and there's no reason not to. I eat lots more fruit in the summer, but lost weight just as easily, because I counted calories.
I will stipulate that 30 bananas a day is too much for just about anyone, despite the Freelees of the world and their claims.0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »There is nothing in fruit that you can't get from vegetables.
I don't think anyone really knows that for sure...
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azulvioleta6 wrote: »I definitely gained weight by eating fruit.
Even over the last few years since I have started being careful about my diet, my weight jumps up every June when fruit is cheap, local and plentiful. I can easily gain ten pounds just by going from one fruit a day to three or four servings.
There is nothing in fruit that you can't get from vegetables.
D-limone is found in what veggies?0 -
Laurend224 wrote: »roxielu0422 wrote: »Unless you have diabetes, then you should watch your fruit intake. Yes it has sugar, but it's also good for you. No one ever got fat from eating fruit.
*raises hand* I did. Eating roughly 3000 calories of bananas a day, only bananas. Stupid stupid me. If you put yourself in a calorie surplus, you gain weight, no matter the source.
That's like 30 bananas ... Omg I would puke
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azulvioleta6 wrote: »I definitely gained weight by eating fruit.
Even over the last few years since I have started being careful about my diet, my weight jumps up every June when fruit is cheap, local and plentiful. I can easily gain ten pounds just by going from one fruit a day to three or four servings.
There is nothing in fruit that you can't get from vegetables.
D-limone is found in what veggies?
Do you mean limonene? if so it is a pretty awesome nutrient.0
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