Atkins diet success stories?
hlo9603
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So I'm trying out a low carb diet along with my regular exercise and I thought I'd give Atkins a try. I'm a type O blood type and that requires more protein and less carbs so I thought Atkins would be perfect. I've barely just started about a week ago and I'm into my second week. I've lost about 4 lbs since I started that diet in addition to my already 5 lbs loss. I wanted to hear some success stories or if anyone else was trying this diet and how it was working out for u. Am I wasting my time or does this diet really work? I'm excited to hear your thoughts and please feel free to add me as a friend on MFP. Thanks!
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I did Atkins in the mid-90s - lost 35 pounds and had excellent labs (cholesterol, triglycerides). I moved to what I called "modified Atkins" where I added carbs up to probably 60g a day. Slowly I gained all the weight back -- over probably 6 years. Tried Atkins a second time and just couldn't tolerate it - I felt like I had been run over by a truck.
20 years later, I am doing the only tried and true diet there is. It's called "Don't Eat So Damn Much" lol.0 -
You're wasting your time. The only proven way for you to lose weight in a healthy and controllable way is to eat within a caloric deficit; throwing in some kind of cardio or weightlifting regime won't hurt either.
Also... Since when did your blood type affect what type of macronutrients you should consume? Is that a thing?0 -
I did low carb versions - 3 times - lost weight, 3 times, put weight back on and more 3 times
I am not capable of sticking to low carb for life - if you are then great, that's your way out
But you know it's about calorie defecit, if you want to low carb during it fine .. but calorie defecit works
(PS Blood type diets .. nope!)0 -
I tried two types of low carb diets, both Atkins and paleo. Couldn't stick to them in a sustained way for the long haul. Bear in mind that I ate that way for five years. I lost weight to a point, but I bought the whole line that eating that way was sufficient to lose weight. Wellllllll, it's not. It's only sufficient to the point that cutting one food group creates a caloric deficit. I was only creating so much of a deficit and didn't see that great of a loss. At least not enough to motivate me.
I also would feel like I failed any time I got sick, because all my body wanted then were carbs. Things like toast and soup with noodles.
I've gradually settled into a moderate carb way of eating. I eat 100-150g of carbs a day. This is mostly something I've come to because of foods that I can't eat (celiac disease) vs. foods that I like vs. foods that just aren't worth the calories to me vs. foods that just make me feel good (lots of protein). That was almost the last piece of the puzzle. The last piece? Learning to count calories. It all comes down to that.
Find a way of eating you can sustain for life. Find a diet full of foods you enjoy, then find out how many calories you need to consume to lose weight. Then fit those foods into your calorie limit, and you'll succeed and feel satisfied.0 -
You're wasting your time. The only proven way for you to lose weight in a healthy and controllable way is to eat within a caloric deficit; throwing in some kind of cardio or weightlifting regime won't hurt either.
Also... Since when did your blood type affect what type of macronutrients you should consume? Is that a thing?
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If you google you'll find an absolute ton of success stories.
Ketosis works for a lot of people because it curbs hunger, which means people may find it easier to reduce their calorie intake. It does upset me when people brush any modified way of eating just to say "OH NOTHING AT ALL WORKS OTHER THAN ENGERY IN vs ENERGY OUT" - obviously, but there are some people who find this easier with modified eating habits so get off your stool for a minute. ("you're wasting your time" no it's absoultely not a waste of someone's time to experiment to see what works for them)
A low carbohydrate diet to the point of ketosis certainly works for reducing appetite & for some people increased overall health for people who can sustain this style of eating, everyone has their own preferences & what feels best for them.
I personally find it easier to sustain a deficit using a ketogenic diet & I have less migraines & less relapses with ED. So absolutely it can be successful. 115lbs down at this time. So give it a go absolutely, and if you find it's too difficult to sustain it doesn't mean you failed at it, it just means it may not be suitable for you.
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Also, on blood types; that's not a thing x1 -
Lots of stuff works in the short term .. but long term, for the rest of your life? That's a difficult path to tread .. but good luck if it's something you can stick with until you die, it's not for me0
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If you google you'll find an absolute ton of success stories.
Ketosis works for a lot of people because it curbs hunger, which means people may find it easier to reduce their calorie intake. It does upset me when people brush any modified way of eating just to say "OH NOTHING AT ALL WORKS OTHER THAN ENGERY IN vs ENERGY OUT" - obviously, but there are some people who find this easier with modified eating habits so get off your stool for a minute. ("you're wasting your time" no it's absoultely not a waste of someone's time to experiment to see what works for them)
A low carbohydrate diet to the point of ketosis certainly works for reducing appetite & for some people increased overall health for people who can sustain this style of eating, everyone has their own preferences & what feels best for them.
I personally find it easier to sustain a deficit using a ketogenic diet & I have less migraines & less relapses with ED. So absolutely it can be successful. 115lbs down at this time. So give it a go absolutely, and if you find it's too difficult to sustain it doesn't mean you failed at it, it just means it may not be suitable for you.
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Also, on blood types; that's not a thing x
It "worked" for me.
For five years. I low carbed through a pregnancy and breastfeeding even! (Not ketosis, but still low carb.)
Could not keep living that way forever.
There are some advantages age gives you, and that's experience and perspective.
Here's a question for you.
You recommended that she try it, and if it's difficult to sustain, it doesn't mean she failed, it means it's not suitable for her. Well, the problem with that is that she'll gain weight. What would be the point?
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So I'm trying out a low carb diet along with my regular exercise and I thought I'd give Atkins a try. I'm a type O blood type and that requires more protein and less carbs so I thought Atkins would be perfect. I've barely just started about a week ago and I'm into my second week. I've lost about 4 lbs since I started that diet in addition to my already 5 lbs loss. I wanted to hear some success stories or if anyone else was trying this diet and how it was working out for u. Am I wasting my time or does this diet really work? I'm excited to hear your thoughts and please feel free to add me as a friend on MFP. Thanks!
What does your blood type have to do with weightloss?!? Who ever told you that has no idea what they are talking about.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »If you google you'll find an absolute ton of success stories.
Ketosis works for a lot of people because it curbs hunger, which means people may find it easier to reduce their calorie intake. It does upset me when people brush any modified way of eating just to say "OH NOTHING AT ALL WORKS OTHER THAN ENGERY IN vs ENERGY OUT" - obviously, but there are some people who find this easier with modified eating habits so get off your stool for a minute. ("you're wasting your time" no it's absoultely not a waste of someone's time to experiment to see what works for them)
A low carbohydrate diet to the point of ketosis certainly works for reducing appetite & for some people increased overall health for people who can sustain this style of eating, everyone has their own preferences & what feels best for them.
I personally find it easier to sustain a deficit using a ketogenic diet & I have less migraines & less relapses with ED. So absolutely it can be successful. 115lbs down at this time. So give it a go absolutely, and if you find it's too difficult to sustain it doesn't mean you failed at it, it just means it may not be suitable for you.
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Also, on blood types; that's not a thing x
It "worked" for me.
For five years. I low carbed through a pregnancy and breastfeeding even! (Not ketosis, but still low carb.)
Could not keep living that way forever.
There are some advantages age gives you, and that's experience and perspective.
Here's a question for you.
You recommended that she try it, and if it's difficult to sustain, it doesn't mean she failed, it means it's not suitable for her. Well, the problem with that is that she'll gain weight. What would be the point?
Weight is a matter only of energy in vs energy out, dietary changes do not effect that - only the amount of consumption effects that, going low carb or high carb in itself does not have an effect on weight loss/gain (disregarding water weight)
What I'm saying is: for some people having a low consumption of carbohydrate makes it easier for them to maintain a calorie deficit, for others it is too restrictive to maintain. Both styles of diet still make it possible to maintain a calorie deficit. - trying low carb & then stopping doesn't = weight gain.0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »If you google you'll find an absolute ton of success stories.
Ketosis works for a lot of people because it curbs hunger, which means people may find it easier to reduce their calorie intake. It does upset me when people brush any modified way of eating just to say "OH NOTHING AT ALL WORKS OTHER THAN ENGERY IN vs ENERGY OUT" - obviously, but there are some people who find this easier with modified eating habits so get off your stool for a minute. ("you're wasting your time" no it's absoultely not a waste of someone's time to experiment to see what works for them)
A low carbohydrate diet to the point of ketosis certainly works for reducing appetite & for some people increased overall health for people who can sustain this style of eating, everyone has their own preferences & what feels best for them.
I personally find it easier to sustain a deficit using a ketogenic diet & I have less migraines & less relapses with ED. So absolutely it can be successful. 115lbs down at this time. So give it a go absolutely, and if you find it's too difficult to sustain it doesn't mean you failed at it, it just means it may not be suitable for you.
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Also, on blood types; that's not a thing x
It "worked" for me.
For five years. I low carbed through a pregnancy and breastfeeding even! (Not ketosis, but still low carb.)
Could not keep living that way forever.
There are some advantages age gives you, and that's experience and perspective.
Here's a question for you.
You recommended that she try it, and if it's difficult to sustain, it doesn't mean she failed, it means it's not suitable for her. Well, the problem with that is that she'll gain weight. What would be the point?
Weight is a matter only of energy in vs energy out, dietary changes do not effect that - only the amount of consumption effects that, going low carb or high carb in itself does not have an effect on weight loss/gain (disregarding water weight)
Oh but it does - immediate gain in water weight, plus no learning curve to managing carbs healthily within your diet means unless it's immediately replaced with another strict form of limiting calories huge rebound
anecdotally for me as an individual and looking back over the last 15-20 years, low-carb was my biggest dieting mistake .. quick weight loss, felt easy at the beginning but each time I lost control (because it is is about control) and rebounded much worse and much faster than I ever did with any other (long-term unsuccesful) diet plan including weightwatchers, slimming world etc ... no learning curve, no long-term plan0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »If you google you'll find an absolute ton of success stories.
Ketosis works for a lot of people because it curbs hunger, which means people may find it easier to reduce their calorie intake. It does upset me when people brush any modified way of eating just to say "OH NOTHING AT ALL WORKS OTHER THAN ENGERY IN vs ENERGY OUT" - obviously, but there are some people who find this easier with modified eating habits so get off your stool for a minute. ("you're wasting your time" no it's absoultely not a waste of someone's time to experiment to see what works for them)
A low carbohydrate diet to the point of ketosis certainly works for reducing appetite & for some people increased overall health for people who can sustain this style of eating, everyone has their own preferences & what feels best for them.
I personally find it easier to sustain a deficit using a ketogenic diet & I have less migraines & less relapses with ED. So absolutely it can be successful. 115lbs down at this time. So give it a go absolutely, and if you find it's too difficult to sustain it doesn't mean you failed at it, it just means it may not be suitable for you.
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Also, on blood types; that's not a thing x
It "worked" for me.
For five years. I low carbed through a pregnancy and breastfeeding even! (Not ketosis, but still low carb.)
Could not keep living that way forever.
There are some advantages age gives you, and that's experience and perspective.
Here's a question for you.
You recommended that she try it, and if it's difficult to sustain, it doesn't mean she failed, it means it's not suitable for her. Well, the problem with that is that she'll gain weight. What would be the point?
Weight is a matter only of energy in vs energy out, dietary changes do not effect that - only the amount of consumption effects that, going low carb or high carb in itself does not have an effect on weight loss/gain (disregarding water weight)
Fair enough, and I have to hand it to you... I am saying this without sarcasm. It's refreshing to come across a low-carber who also embraces CICO. There are too many who think it's magic.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »If you google you'll find an absolute ton of success stories.
Ketosis works for a lot of people because it curbs hunger, which means people may find it easier to reduce their calorie intake. It does upset me when people brush any modified way of eating just to say "OH NOTHING AT ALL WORKS OTHER THAN ENGERY IN vs ENERGY OUT" - obviously, but there are some people who find this easier with modified eating habits so get off your stool for a minute. ("you're wasting your time" no it's absoultely not a waste of someone's time to experiment to see what works for them)
A low carbohydrate diet to the point of ketosis certainly works for reducing appetite & for some people increased overall health for people who can sustain this style of eating, everyone has their own preferences & what feels best for them.
I personally find it easier to sustain a deficit using a ketogenic diet & I have less migraines & less relapses with ED. So absolutely it can be successful. 115lbs down at this time. So give it a go absolutely, and if you find it's too difficult to sustain it doesn't mean you failed at it, it just means it may not be suitable for you.
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Also, on blood types; that's not a thing x
It "worked" for me.
For five years. I low carbed through a pregnancy and breastfeeding even! (Not ketosis, but still low carb.)
Could not keep living that way forever.
There are some advantages age gives you, and that's experience and perspective.
Here's a question for you.
You recommended that she try it, and if it's difficult to sustain, it doesn't mean she failed, it means it's not suitable for her. Well, the problem with that is that she'll gain weight. What would be the point?
Weight is a matter only of energy in vs energy out, dietary changes do not effect that - only the amount of consumption effects that, going low carb or high carb in itself does not have an effect on weight loss/gain (disregarding water weight)
Fair enough, and I have to hand it to you... I am saying this without sarcasm. It's refreshing to come across a low-carber who also embraces CICO. There are too many who think it's magic.
Maybe that's the difference, maybe if I'd CICO whilst low-carb I'd have had something to fall back on when my control burst0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »If you google you'll find an absolute ton of success stories.
Ketosis works for a lot of people because it curbs hunger, which means people may find it easier to reduce their calorie intake. It does upset me when people brush any modified way of eating just to say "OH NOTHING AT ALL WORKS OTHER THAN ENGERY IN vs ENERGY OUT" - obviously, but there are some people who find this easier with modified eating habits so get off your stool for a minute. ("you're wasting your time" no it's absoultely not a waste of someone's time to experiment to see what works for them)
A low carbohydrate diet to the point of ketosis certainly works for reducing appetite & for some people increased overall health for people who can sustain this style of eating, everyone has their own preferences & what feels best for them.
I personally find it easier to sustain a deficit using a ketogenic diet & I have less migraines & less relapses with ED. So absolutely it can be successful. 115lbs down at this time. So give it a go absolutely, and if you find it's too difficult to sustain it doesn't mean you failed at it, it just means it may not be suitable for you.
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Also, on blood types; that's not a thing x
It "worked" for me.
For five years. I low carbed through a pregnancy and breastfeeding even! (Not ketosis, but still low carb.)
Could not keep living that way forever.
There are some advantages age gives you, and that's experience and perspective.
Here's a question for you.
You recommended that she try it, and if it's difficult to sustain, it doesn't mean she failed, it means it's not suitable for her. Well, the problem with that is that she'll gain weight. What would be the point?
Weight is a matter only of energy in vs energy out, dietary changes do not effect that - only the amount of consumption effects that, going low carb or high carb in itself does not have an effect on weight loss/gain (disregarding water weight)
Oh but it does - immediate gain in water weight, plus no learning curve to managing carbs healthily within your diet means unless it's immediately replaced with another strict form of limiting calories huge rebound
anecdotally for me as an individual and looking back over the last 15-20 years, low-carb was my biggest dieting mistake .. quick weight loss, felt easy at the beginning but each time I lost control (because it is is about control) and rebounded much worse and much faster than I ever did with any other (long-term unsuccesful) diet plan including weightwatchers, slimming world etc ... no learning curve, no long-term plan
I literally said disregarding water weight.
This can be true when it comes to a lack of understanding or control with our weights, especially with the added frustration, but this is a good reason why we (as a health community on here) shouldn't shoot people down when they ask questions about different styles of eating. It is good for people to try different dietary styles if what they currently have is not working for them, as long as they understand the basics of what actually causes weight gain & loss it wont lead to a poor relationship with specific types of food/diets.
I don't really get your point however, are you saying that trying but failing to maintain a long-term low carbohydrate diet inherently means there is no learning curve? I will assume anyone who is going to make a dietary change on here has a long term goal for it - or is asking about it to learn more about it...0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »If you google you'll find an absolute ton of success stories.
Ketosis works for a lot of people because it curbs hunger, which means people may find it easier to reduce their calorie intake. It does upset me when people brush any modified way of eating just to say "OH NOTHING AT ALL WORKS OTHER THAN ENGERY IN vs ENERGY OUT" - obviously, but there are some people who find this easier with modified eating habits so get off your stool for a minute. ("you're wasting your time" no it's absoultely not a waste of someone's time to experiment to see what works for them)
A low carbohydrate diet to the point of ketosis certainly works for reducing appetite & for some people increased overall health for people who can sustain this style of eating, everyone has their own preferences & what feels best for them.
I personally find it easier to sustain a deficit using a ketogenic diet & I have less migraines & less relapses with ED. So absolutely it can be successful. 115lbs down at this time. So give it a go absolutely, and if you find it's too difficult to sustain it doesn't mean you failed at it, it just means it may not be suitable for you.
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Also, on blood types; that's not a thing x
It "worked" for me.
For five years. I low carbed through a pregnancy and breastfeeding even! (Not ketosis, but still low carb.)
Could not keep living that way forever.
There are some advantages age gives you, and that's experience and perspective.
Here's a question for you.
You recommended that she try it, and if it's difficult to sustain, it doesn't mean she failed, it means it's not suitable for her. Well, the problem with that is that she'll gain weight. What would be the point?
Weight is a matter only of energy in vs energy out, dietary changes do not effect that - only the amount of consumption effects that, going low carb or high carb in itself does not have an effect on weight loss/gain (disregarding water weight)
Fair enough, and I have to hand it to you... I am saying this without sarcasm. It's refreshing to come across a low-carber who also embraces CICO. There are too many who think it's magic.
I just got my quals in nutrition & I'm a health worker. I only use low carb for myself because of how it makes me feel; i'm under no delusions that if I were to eat 3000kcal of butter erryday that i'd get all skinny.
Nah I like to push that the two are completely seperate - because of this magic low carb group +_+ You get people who are like "just count carbs, you will lose weight" and it sets people up to fail from the start, it's no good.0 -
the science of atkins has been dis proven by an indirect way by a using metabolic chamber analysis between regular caloric watching and so called low carbing. There is validity to kitosis but it's not a lifestyle you can live, most people can't stay on it. Body builders call it cutting and it's been done for years.
What they found was that even though you can eat fat all day long your body will start rejecting it, that is where you get your caloric deficit actually comes from. Fat and protein brings a natural cessation to hunger.
To swing the other way around Modern carbs have been exciled by "wheat belly" thinking. There is only one doctor saying that this is a real problem and it seems to be curing a lot of illinesses, not just weight. Sound familiar?
I would agree we have too much caloric food around (thank you modern society) but there is going to require a heighten sense of understading of what food does to your body.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »If you google you'll find an absolute ton of success stories.
Ketosis works for a lot of people because it curbs hunger, which means people may find it easier to reduce their calorie intake. It does upset me when people brush any modified way of eating just to say "OH NOTHING AT ALL WORKS OTHER THAN ENGERY IN vs ENERGY OUT" - obviously, but there are some people who find this easier with modified eating habits so get off your stool for a minute. ("you're wasting your time" no it's absoultely not a waste of someone's time to experiment to see what works for them)
A low carbohydrate diet to the point of ketosis certainly works for reducing appetite & for some people increased overall health for people who can sustain this style of eating, everyone has their own preferences & what feels best for them.
I personally find it easier to sustain a deficit using a ketogenic diet & I have less migraines & less relapses with ED. So absolutely it can be successful. 115lbs down at this time. So give it a go absolutely, and if you find it's too difficult to sustain it doesn't mean you failed at it, it just means it may not be suitable for you.
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Also, on blood types; that's not a thing x
It "worked" for me.
For five years. I low carbed through a pregnancy and breastfeeding even! (Not ketosis, but still low carb.)
Could not keep living that way forever.
There are some advantages age gives you, and that's experience and perspective.
Here's a question for you.
You recommended that she try it, and if it's difficult to sustain, it doesn't mean she failed, it means it's not suitable for her. Well, the problem with that is that she'll gain weight. What would be the point?
Weight is a matter only of energy in vs energy out, dietary changes do not effect that - only the amount of consumption effects that, going low carb or high carb in itself does not have an effect on weight loss/gain (disregarding water weight)
Fair enough, and I have to hand it to you... I am saying this without sarcasm. It's refreshing to come across a low-carber who also embraces CICO. There are too many who think it's magic.
Maybe that's the difference, maybe if I'd CICO whilst low-carb I'd have had something to fall back on when my control burst
Sounds like you've had a really tough time of it
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This was supposed to be an edit, not a repost- disregard.0
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mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »If you google you'll find an absolute ton of success stories.
Ketosis works for a lot of people because it curbs hunger, which means people may find it easier to reduce their calorie intake. It does upset me when people brush any modified way of eating just to say "OH NOTHING AT ALL WORKS OTHER THAN ENGERY IN vs ENERGY OUT" - obviously, but there are some people who find this easier with modified eating habits so get off your stool for a minute. ("you're wasting your time" no it's absoultely not a waste of someone's time to experiment to see what works for them)
A low carbohydrate diet to the point of ketosis certainly works for reducing appetite & for some people increased overall health for people who can sustain this style of eating, everyone has their own preferences & what feels best for them.
I personally find it easier to sustain a deficit using a ketogenic diet & I have less migraines & less relapses with ED. So absolutely it can be successful. 115lbs down at this time. So give it a go absolutely, and if you find it's too difficult to sustain it doesn't mean you failed at it, it just means it may not be suitable for you.
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Also, on blood types; that's not a thing x
It "worked" for me.
For five years. I low carbed through a pregnancy and breastfeeding even! (Not ketosis, but still low carb.)
Could not keep living that way forever.
There are some advantages age gives you, and that's experience and perspective.
Here's a question for you.
You recommended that she try it, and if it's difficult to sustain, it doesn't mean she failed, it means it's not suitable for her. Well, the problem with that is that she'll gain weight. What would be the point?
Weight is a matter only of energy in vs energy out, dietary changes do not effect that - only the amount of consumption effects that, going low carb or high carb in itself does not have an effect on weight loss/gain (disregarding water weight)
Fair enough, and I have to hand it to you... I am saying this without sarcasm. It's refreshing to come across a low-carber who also embraces CICO. There are too many who think it's magic.
Maybe that's the difference, maybe if I'd CICO whilst low-carb I'd have had something to fall back on when my control burst
I never had control burst, but I never lost weight past a certain point and was deeply frustrated by it. And I read Atkins book. The book sort of promotes the idea that eating that way will magically make it all happen for you without CICO.
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the science of atkins has been dis proven by an indirect way by a using metabolic chamber analysis between regular caloric watching and so called low carbing. There is validity to kitosis but it's not a lifestyle you can live, most people can't stay on it. Body builders call it cutting and it's been done for years.
What they found was that even though you can eat fat all day long your body will start rejecting it, that is where you get your caloric deficit actually comes from. Fat and protein brings a natural cessation to hunger.
To swing the other way around Modern carbs have been exciled by "wheat belly" thinking. There is only one doctor saying that this is a real problem and it seems to be curing a lot of illinesses, not just weight. Sound familiar?
I would agree we have too much caloric food around (thank you modern society) but there is going to require a heighten sense of understading of what food does to your body.
Lmfao. oh christ. Source, i'd love to see it. Your body starts rejecting dietary fat. Oh my word. No please, your sauce. ketosis* Calorie deficit comes from a calorie deficit.0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »If you google you'll find an absolute ton of success stories.
Ketosis works for a lot of people because it curbs hunger, which means people may find it easier to reduce their calorie intake. It does upset me when people brush any modified way of eating just to say "OH NOTHING AT ALL WORKS OTHER THAN ENGERY IN vs ENERGY OUT" - obviously, but there are some people who find this easier with modified eating habits so get off your stool for a minute. ("you're wasting your time" no it's absoultely not a waste of someone's time to experiment to see what works for them)
A low carbohydrate diet to the point of ketosis certainly works for reducing appetite & for some people increased overall health for people who can sustain this style of eating, everyone has their own preferences & what feels best for them.
I personally find it easier to sustain a deficit using a ketogenic diet & I have less migraines & less relapses with ED. So absolutely it can be successful. 115lbs down at this time. So give it a go absolutely, and if you find it's too difficult to sustain it doesn't mean you failed at it, it just means it may not be suitable for you.
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Also, on blood types; that's not a thing x
It "worked" for me.
For five years. I low carbed through a pregnancy and breastfeeding even! (Not ketosis, but still low carb.)
Could not keep living that way forever.
There are some advantages age gives you, and that's experience and perspective.
Here's a question for you.
You recommended that she try it, and if it's difficult to sustain, it doesn't mean she failed, it means it's not suitable for her. Well, the problem with that is that she'll gain weight. What would be the point?
Weight is a matter only of energy in vs energy out, dietary changes do not effect that - only the amount of consumption effects that, going low carb or high carb in itself does not have an effect on weight loss/gain (disregarding water weight)
Fair enough, and I have to hand it to you... I am saying this without sarcasm. It's refreshing to come across a low-carber who also embraces CICO. There are too many who think it's magic.
Maybe that's the difference, maybe if I'd CICO whilst low-carb I'd have had something to fall back on when my control burst
I never had control burst, but I never lost weight past a certain point and was deeply frustrated by it. And I read Atkins book. The book sort of promotes the idea that eating that way will magically make it all happen for you without CICO.
I find it's much healthier to push dietary ketosis rather than "atkins" I personally feel atkins is just a money push, all the bars and shakes they have, it's just a low carber's slim fast.0 -
I did Atkins in the mid-90s - lost 35 pounds and had excellent labs (cholesterol, triglycerides). I moved to what I called "modified Atkins" where I added carbs up to probably 60g a day. Slowly I gained all the weight back -- over probably 6 years. Tried Atkins a second time and just couldn't tolerate it - I felt like I had been run over by a truck.
20 years later, I am doing the only tried and true diet there is. It's called "Don't Eat So Damn Much" lol.
Pretty much mirrors my own experience. First did the Atkins in 2002 and lost around 50 pounds, but as others have noted slowly put it back on again. Second and third attempts just didn't work out - which was a shame because I actually loved the high protein diet.
Good luck in whatever you choose.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »If you google you'll find an absolute ton of success stories.
Ketosis works for a lot of people because it curbs hunger, which means people may find it easier to reduce their calorie intake. It does upset me when people brush any modified way of eating just to say "OH NOTHING AT ALL WORKS OTHER THAN ENGERY IN vs ENERGY OUT" - obviously, but there are some people who find this easier with modified eating habits so get off your stool for a minute. ("you're wasting your time" no it's absoultely not a waste of someone's time to experiment to see what works for them)
A low carbohydrate diet to the point of ketosis certainly works for reducing appetite & for some people increased overall health for people who can sustain this style of eating, everyone has their own preferences & what feels best for them.
I personally find it easier to sustain a deficit using a ketogenic diet & I have less migraines & less relapses with ED. So absolutely it can be successful. 115lbs down at this time. So give it a go absolutely, and if you find it's too difficult to sustain it doesn't mean you failed at it, it just means it may not be suitable for you.
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Also, on blood types; that's not a thing x
It "worked" for me.
For five years. I low carbed through a pregnancy and breastfeeding even! (Not ketosis, but still low carb.)
Could not keep living that way forever.
There are some advantages age gives you, and that's experience and perspective.
Here's a question for you.
You recommended that she try it, and if it's difficult to sustain, it doesn't mean she failed, it means it's not suitable for her. Well, the problem with that is that she'll gain weight. What would be the point?
Weight is a matter only of energy in vs energy out, dietary changes do not effect that - only the amount of consumption effects that, going low carb or high carb in itself does not have an effect on weight loss/gain (disregarding water weight)
Fair enough, and I have to hand it to you... I am saying this without sarcasm. It's refreshing to come across a low-carber who also embraces CICO. There are too many who think it's magic.
Maybe that's the difference, maybe if I'd CICO whilst low-carb I'd have had something to fall back on when my control burst
I never had control burst, but I never lost weight past a certain point and was deeply frustrated by it. And I read Atkins book. The book sort of promotes the idea that eating that way will magically make it all happen for you without CICO.
I find it's much healthier to push dietary ketosis rather than "atkins" I personally feel atkins is just a money push, all the bars and shakes they have, it's just a low carber's slim fast.
I'm old enough that I was doing Atkins before all that stuff was on the market
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mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »If you google you'll find an absolute ton of success stories.
Ketosis works for a lot of people because it curbs hunger, which means people may find it easier to reduce their calorie intake. It does upset me when people brush any modified way of eating just to say "OH NOTHING AT ALL WORKS OTHER THAN ENGERY IN vs ENERGY OUT" - obviously, but there are some people who find this easier with modified eating habits so get off your stool for a minute. ("you're wasting your time" no it's absoultely not a waste of someone's time to experiment to see what works for them)
A low carbohydrate diet to the point of ketosis certainly works for reducing appetite & for some people increased overall health for people who can sustain this style of eating, everyone has their own preferences & what feels best for them.
I personally find it easier to sustain a deficit using a ketogenic diet & I have less migraines & less relapses with ED. So absolutely it can be successful. 115lbs down at this time. So give it a go absolutely, and if you find it's too difficult to sustain it doesn't mean you failed at it, it just means it may not be suitable for you.
----
Also, on blood types; that's not a thing x
It "worked" for me.
For five years. I low carbed through a pregnancy and breastfeeding even! (Not ketosis, but still low carb.)
Could not keep living that way forever.
There are some advantages age gives you, and that's experience and perspective.
Here's a question for you.
You recommended that she try it, and if it's difficult to sustain, it doesn't mean she failed, it means it's not suitable for her. Well, the problem with that is that she'll gain weight. What would be the point?
Weight is a matter only of energy in vs energy out, dietary changes do not effect that - only the amount of consumption effects that, going low carb or high carb in itself does not have an effect on weight loss/gain (disregarding water weight)
Fair enough, and I have to hand it to you... I am saying this without sarcasm. It's refreshing to come across a low-carber who also embraces CICO. There are too many who think it's magic.
Maybe that's the difference, maybe if I'd CICO whilst low-carb I'd have had something to fall back on when my control burst
Sounds like you've had a really tough time of it
God no, I was overweight not obese and relatively happy
I'm just shocked at how easy I've found throwing out all the noise, and rules and fads, and focusing on simply calories in and calories out .. because of the lack of excluding any food / food group I actually believe this is me for life - this is the longest I've stuck to any lifestyle change / first time I've not considered it a 'diet' and it's been 8 months, 44lbs and I'm still happy with it, still slowly losing, still gradually getting stronger and fitter and more fabulous
less of a tough time in the past and more of a huge revelation in the present
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mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »If you google you'll find an absolute ton of success stories.
Ketosis works for a lot of people because it curbs hunger, which means people may find it easier to reduce their calorie intake. It does upset me when people brush any modified way of eating just to say "OH NOTHING AT ALL WORKS OTHER THAN ENGERY IN vs ENERGY OUT" - obviously, but there are some people who find this easier with modified eating habits so get off your stool for a minute. ("you're wasting your time" no it's absoultely not a waste of someone's time to experiment to see what works for them)
A low carbohydrate diet to the point of ketosis certainly works for reducing appetite & for some people increased overall health for people who can sustain this style of eating, everyone has their own preferences & what feels best for them.
I personally find it easier to sustain a deficit using a ketogenic diet & I have less migraines & less relapses with ED. So absolutely it can be successful. 115lbs down at this time. So give it a go absolutely, and if you find it's too difficult to sustain it doesn't mean you failed at it, it just means it may not be suitable for you.
----
Also, on blood types; that's not a thing x
It "worked" for me.
For five years. I low carbed through a pregnancy and breastfeeding even! (Not ketosis, but still low carb.)
Could not keep living that way forever.
There are some advantages age gives you, and that's experience and perspective.
Here's a question for you.
You recommended that she try it, and if it's difficult to sustain, it doesn't mean she failed, it means it's not suitable for her. Well, the problem with that is that she'll gain weight. What would be the point?
Weight is a matter only of energy in vs energy out, dietary changes do not effect that - only the amount of consumption effects that, going low carb or high carb in itself does not have an effect on weight loss/gain (disregarding water weight)
Fair enough, and I have to hand it to you... I am saying this without sarcasm. It's refreshing to come across a low-carber who also embraces CICO. There are too many who think it's magic.
Maybe that's the difference, maybe if I'd CICO whilst low-carb I'd have had something to fall back on when my control burst
I never had control burst, but I never lost weight past a certain point and was deeply frustrated by it. And I read Atkins book. The book sort of promotes the idea that eating that way will magically make it all happen for you without CICO.
I find it's much healthier to push dietary ketosis rather than "atkins" I personally feel atkins is just a money push, all the bars and shakes they have, it's just a low carber's slim fast.
I'm old enough that I was doing Atkins before all that stuff was on the market
I was brought up thinking that to lose weight you needed to replace food with this kindof crap. All the way up until I went to college, there is seriously poor nutritional health education, at least here in the UK.0 -
Blood type diets is the latest con doing that rounds that those desperate for some sort of magic answer are clinging onto. Someone is getting paid big money for peddling that BS, they should be jailed.
If anyone wants to go low carb and feels it works for them, then go for it. But it isn't necessary, carbs can fuel your weight loss if eaten at an appropriate amount. If you exercise regularly, you'll either love carbs, or you'll miss them like crazy if you're avoiding them. The take home point should be, the human body is not a mystery that requires innovative new ways to get it to work for us. The answers are already there and have been for as long as we've existed. You don't need a diet that has a brand name, just do what people had previously been doing long before this became a craze - eating what they needed to eat.0 -
Lmfao. oh christ. Source, i'd love to see it. Your body starts rejecting dietary fat. Oh my word. No please, your sauce. ketosis* Calorie deficit comes from a calorie deficit.
I didn't mean to say that you can live of fat, it's a mix of fat and protein that matters. As for the source I wish I remembered where I saw it. I'm pretty sure it was a prim-time tv show that was being shown on youtube illegally.
They have had simular results when they had an open store were people were free to buy what they wanted based on there meal plan. and it reflected the same outcome.
It is all about caloric deficit and your own particular metabolism. I'm just saying there are many ways to get there.0 -
Millions of people have success in losing and maintaining weight loss on low carb diets. Millions of people fail.
Just like millions have success calorie counting and eating in moderation and millions fail.
You've just got to find what works for you. The diet is healthy and a great tool for eating in a calorie deficit. Give it a go - if it doesn't work it work, you may find it does.0 -
Why not just eat at a deficit?0
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mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »If you google you'll find an absolute ton of success stories.
Ketosis works for a lot of people because it curbs hunger, which means people may find it easier to reduce their calorie intake. It does upset me when people brush any modified way of eating just to say "OH NOTHING AT ALL WORKS OTHER THAN ENGERY IN vs ENERGY OUT" - obviously, but there are some people who find this easier with modified eating habits so get off your stool for a minute. ("you're wasting your time" no it's absoultely not a waste of someone's time to experiment to see what works for them)
A low carbohydrate diet to the point of ketosis certainly works for reducing appetite & for some people increased overall health for people who can sustain this style of eating, everyone has their own preferences & what feels best for them.
I personally find it easier to sustain a deficit using a ketogenic diet & I have less migraines & less relapses with ED. So absolutely it can be successful. 115lbs down at this time. So give it a go absolutely, and if you find it's too difficult to sustain it doesn't mean you failed at it, it just means it may not be suitable for you.
----
Also, on blood types; that's not a thing x
It "worked" for me.
For five years. I low carbed through a pregnancy and breastfeeding even! (Not ketosis, but still low carb.)
Could not keep living that way forever.
There are some advantages age gives you, and that's experience and perspective.
Here's a question for you.
You recommended that she try it, and if it's difficult to sustain, it doesn't mean she failed, it means it's not suitable for her. Well, the problem with that is that she'll gain weight. What would be the point?
Weight is a matter only of energy in vs energy out, dietary changes do not effect that - only the amount of consumption effects that, going low carb or high carb in itself does not have an effect on weight loss/gain (disregarding water weight)
Fair enough, and I have to hand it to you... I am saying this without sarcasm. It's refreshing to come across a low-carber who also embraces CICO. There are too many who think it's magic.
Maybe that's the difference, maybe if I'd CICO whilst low-carb I'd have had something to fall back on when my control burst
Sounds like you've had a really tough time of it
God no, I was overweight not obese and relatively happy
I'm just shocked at how easy I've found throwing out all the noise, and rules and fads, and focusing on simply calories in and calories out .. because of the lack of excluding any food / food group I actually believe this is me for life - this is the longest I've stuck to any lifestyle change / first time I've not considered it a 'diet' and it's been 8 months, 44lbs and I'm still happy with it, still slowly losing, still gradually getting stronger and fitter and more fabulous
less of a tough time in the past and more of a huge revelation in the present
Awesome!
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