Want to be 225 and currently 200. Out of reach?

Springfield1970

zaxx1953 wrote: »

MrM27 wrote: »

zaxx1953 wrote: »

You want to gain a lb a wk?

So how much of this weight do you expect to be lean mass....if it's much more than a 1/4lbs for very long, you'd be mistaken if you plan on doing this without the help of pharmaceuticals.

1lbs of lean mass/month is a great goal for someone who already is developed muscularly. If you put on 10lbs of lean mass the change is pretty dramatic and you might find yourself liking how you look at 210-212lbs.

I would go for an intermediate goal like 215lbs with some fat gain and cut in late April/May to a comfortable summer weight.

1 lb per month? What is you reasoning behind that assumption? Are you talking about the time when someone is nearing the ceiling of their genetic threshold?

1lbs of LEAN MASS per month for an intermediate trainee is good progress.....

Whoever said it's generally known intermediate lifters can simply put on 1/2 lb of muscle a week over the medium/long run, well, no...i'm sorry, that is way over what you'll be seeing most of the time.

The reason we advise that here is because that is what most of us experienced, some of us, several times. I myself experience AT LEAST a 50/50 ratio of muscle gain at half a pound a week excess, and I'm a 44 y o female experienced lifter. I know that because I didn't even need to cut the fat much to have the same body fat and measurements. I'm 5'7" and started my bulk at under 15% bf. Post bulk and small cut (plus 9lbs, minus 4lbs) I was 15% body fat and same measurements, bit bigger on top.

I bet you most of the regulars on here have gained at a pound a week(males) 1/2lb week (females) and held good muscle to fat ratios. It would be interesting to hear....

zaxx1953

Over an extended period of time.....no.

If it was true natural lifters would be putting on 26lbs of muscle a yr, which is quite a rarity for an intermediate lifter.

If you're talking about someone bouncing up after a cut within a couple months, that's something different.

Chieflrg

I did it when I was your age 10 or so years ago and it was a mess because of how active I was in and out of work I simply couldn't get the balance down. Its obtainable no doubt...hit the gym hard and make sure you get your rest, enjoy your food and you will get there.

LiftingRiot

Thanks chief. Yeah I'm not going to be happy about the gut. I work out 5 times a week. Relax on weekends. Try to get 8 hours a night. Spread multiple little meals throughout the day. Try to keep my cardiovascular down but will play some basketball every once in a while. It's going to be a long haul. I hope I have the endurance.

Springfield1970

zaxx1953 wrote: »

Over an extended period of time.....no.

If it was true natural lifters would be putting on 26lbs of muscle a yr, which is quite a rarity for an intermediate lifter.

If you're talking about someone bouncing up after a cut within a couple months, that's something different.

You're right.

Bulking can only go on for a certain amount of time anyway because the ratio of fat gain to muscle gain tends to creep up with higher body fat percentages, as you go deeper into the bulk.

That's why 1) I can only do 6/8 weeks, and 2) I make sure my body fat percentage is way low before I start. I can only deal mentally with so much fat gain, and my body becomes inefficient and unfit as I get higher body fat.

LiftingRiot

So my max scale reading has been 213 so far. I think I'm doing good in my bulking goal. It's freaking a lot of work though.