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returning to basic rules of TDDE and CD
snowy0wl
Posts: 179 Member
So, I'm exiting out of a crash diet but it's a little unclear to me so I wanted to make a statement to see how off I am.
If your minimum BMR is 1800
you exercise by adding 500 calories
you eat 1800 calories daily..
that is sustainable long term.
What if you increased the exercise/activity to 900-1000 is that still safe? I'm not sure how practical it is but it's a question.
Or you maintain 500 at all costs so if you exercise 1000 extra you eat extra 500 (maintaining the original 500 caloric deficit).
If your minimum BMR is 1800
you exercise by adding 500 calories
you eat 1800 calories daily..
that is sustainable long term.
What if you increased the exercise/activity to 900-1000 is that still safe? I'm not sure how practical it is but it's a question.
Or you maintain 500 at all costs so if you exercise 1000 extra you eat extra 500 (maintaining the original 500 caloric deficit).
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What is your TDEE?0
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You seem to like to complicate things
What calorie amount does MFP give you when you set it to sedentary and give it a 1lb a week goal
Eat that
Then log your exercise and eat back 50% of the calories (double click on calories and half them before entering exercise)
That's it
That's the secret
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You seem to like to complicate things
What calorie amount does MFP give you when you set it to sedentary and give it a 1lb a week goal
Eat that
Then log your exercise and eat back 50% of the calories (double click on calories and half them before entering exercise)
That's it
That's the secret
Yep. This works too.
I'd still like to know what your TDEE is.0 -
Sabine_Stoehm: the 1800 was an example, when I do no exercise at all it's 2013, when I do exercise it can range from 2700-3300. It's not the same thing every day since I don't stick to a particular set of activities. How accurate it is who knows I use a bodymedia device and only estimate when I'm in the water swimming.0
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No, your TDEESabine_Stoehm: the 1800 was an example, when I do no exercise at all it's 2013, when I do exercise it can range from 2700-3300. It's not the same thing every day since I don't stick to a particular set of activities. How accurate it is who knows I use a bodymedia device and only estimate when I'm in the water swimming.
nvm. Just do what rabbit suggests. Set it to 1lb loss at sedentary. And eat back half your exercise calories. Don't over complicate it, and don't starve yourself.
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rabbitjb: sorry if I sound pendantic, MFP tells me I should be eating 1200 calories and burn 2300 calories.0
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I'll see what that looks like for the 'secret' thanks . Yes I make things complicated and trying to understand. Thank you!0
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Sabine_Stoehm: the 1800 was an example, when I do no exercise at all it's 2013, when I do exercise it can range from 2700-3300. It's not the same thing every day since I don't stick to a particular set of activities. How accurate it is who knows I use a bodymedia device and only estimate when I'm in the water swimming.
BMR and TDEE are not the same thing. You do not base your caloric intake off of your BMR.
As for MFP's way, it is as easy as setting the activity level and eating your given calorie goal, then logging and eating back exercise. However, I would not recommend using the sedentary setting unless you genuinely sit on your butt all day outside of walking out of and into bed. Most will do well on the lightly active setting. When I did this for a few months I used lightly active and ate all (100%) my exercise calories back and still lost faster than I wanted to.0 -
I double checked, my height was wrong and was corrected before I gave you the numbers but it is set to male. Selected seditary and work out 60minutes for 6 days a week.0
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I double checked, my height was wrong and was corrected before I gave you the numbers but it is set to male. Selected seditary and work out 60minutes for 6 days a week.
And what number does it give you now? what number does it give you at lightly active? Inserting your workout goals doesn't influence the number it spits out. Is your goal set to 1lb/week?0 -
I double checked, my height was wrong and was corrected before I gave you the numbers but it is set to male. Selected seditary and work out 60minutes for 6 days a week.
MFP doesn't give males 1200 calories ever...the bottom limit is 1500
So something is wrong there if you're saying it gives you 1200
What's your age, height, current weight
The exercise you target is not relevant to the calories set, that's just a target0 -
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You've set it to 2lb a week ...yet your ticker and profile says you have little to lose ..eg less than 14lbs
Set it to 0.5lb a week
What calorie goal is that giving you
There is something wrong if it's giving you 1200 ...I'd email tech on that0 -
at .5 1920 in and 2370 out.0
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Well it's a super flawed algorithm/design anyways (just arbitrarily subtracting the same cals instead of using %, from 10-25%) so I'm not shocked.0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
Found it http://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/1375583-a-message-about-myfitnesspal-s-updated-nutrition-goals
Clearly the algorithms are, like everything else on MFP, a little shaky
Snowyowl...eat the 1950 as a minimum
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Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
Found it http://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/1375583-a-message-about-myfitnesspal-s-updated-nutrition-goals
Clearly the algorithms are, like everything else on MFP, a little shaky
Snowyowl...eat the 1950 as a minimum
There you go. Yep. Not perfected.
Snowyowl: FOLLOW RABBIT'S ADVICE. Especially given your starvation start.0 -
6'0 @ 45 @ 18.3bf (scale/ averaged over the last 7 days)0
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Well it's a super flawed algorithm/design anyways (just arbitrarily subtracting the same cals instead of using %, from 10-25%) so I'm not shocked.
I disagree there, it's based on NEAT not an estimation of TDEE hence it shouldn't take a percentage discount.. I quite like the simple maths and am just surprised the floor for men hasn't worked0 -
at .5 1920 in and 2370 out.
OP, just to clarify, sorry if you already know this but you seem confused and this is very important:
The 2370 out it gives you includes your daily normal life, that's not an exercise goal. That means you maintain the level of activity you put it at, lead your normal life, eat 1920 AND eat say 50% of your exercise calories.
PS I see folks have been saying this while I was typing but it can't be made too clear so I'll leave it.
Also, after a crash diet you totally will see a few pounds initial weight gain from water weight etc when you up your calories, leave it alone for a few days, just follow the guidelines and it will go down.0
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