returning to basic rules of TDDE and CD

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Wiseandcurious

blankiefinder wrote: »

Wiseandcurious wrote: »

blankiefinder wrote: »

Wiseandcurious wrote: »

snowy0wl wrote: »

at .5 1920 in and 2370 out.

OP, just to clarify, sorry if you already know this but you seem confused and this is very important:

The 2370 out it gives you includes your daily normal life, that's not an exercise goal. That means you maintain the level of activity you put it at, lead your normal life, eat 1920 AND eat say 50% of your exercise calories.

PS I see folks have been saying this while I was typing but it can't be made too clear so I'll leave it.

Also, after a crash diet you totally will see a few pounds initial weight gain from water weight etc when you up your calories, leave it alone for a few days, just follow the guidelines and it will go down.

No. The 2370 is his exercise calories for the week. Check the photo. He told it how much he plans to work out, it tells him that is his estimated burn for the week.

No, really, no. That's not how MFP works, it bases that number on the activity level you input *regardless* how many workouts you put in, please play around with it on your opwn profile and verify.

I just double-checked it again, you can say you plan to burn 2000 cals from your workouts, it will keep that info in your fitness goals so you can track it in "reports" but these are NOT included in the "daily calories burned' in your profile.

really, just check it, don't change anything else just your planned workouts, you'll see MFP's projection for how much you burn will not change.

ETA: I can see he's using a different app than me, I can also post pictures from the site and the app, I really doubt that such essential part of MFP changes from platform to platform though. really, it's eas to check just by plugging in different workout numbers if that number changes or not.

Rather than tell me that I am really, really wrong, maybe double check the photo he posted first?

If you take a second look at his screen shot it is clearly legible under the Fitness Goals: Calories burned / week 2370 / week. So he plans to work out 2370 per week, doing 6 60 minute workouts.

Yes, I did see his photo

Now in turn, let me ask you - did you actually double check playing with calories as I suggested? Did you notice that your projected daily burn (not fitness goals) and projected loss does not change even if you add thousands of exercise calories to your exercise goals?

First, I think you're imagining intentions (no, I did not tell you you were wrong, you said no and I reiterated it, if that hurts you I apologize immediately).

I did miss your "per week" in your post, but if you look through his posts you'll see he's comparing his *daily* intake with this number, and it seems he thinks this is his suggested daily burn.

Please, believe me I was not belaboring the point to be argumentative. The way MFP presents the calories on the summary page is misleading. It is not a small nit-picking issue but a potentially serious problem for new users in a hurry to drop the weight who can make the mistake and believe the app is telling them to eat e.g. 1200 calories and to aim to burn (beyond daily activity) an extra e.g. 1800 per day. This is what the OP seems to be doing and this is what I tried to warn him about. I consider it important enough.

I did mention that I don't know what platform he's on because his picture does not include the words "from daily burn" which my summary does, may be they're absent from his platform at all, may be he just didn't post the whole picture. Better safe than sorry. The crucial thing here is to always understand the difference between what MFP suggests you do to lose weight, as OP thought it did, and what it tracks for the sake of your own fitness goals.

Long post, I think I have been clear enough, and will be wrapping it up. I am sorry you felt particularly hurt by "no, really, no", which was only an emphasis on your "no", no intention to hurt your feelings

yarwell

Zedeff wrote: »

I'm a male and MFP says my goal is 1460.

1 lb/week gives me 1484

Sued0nim

Hi Zedeff

Yes I've already accepted that what it says it does and what it actually does are not the same thing ...

Zedeff wrote: »

MrM27 wrote: »

Zedeff wrote: »

rabbitjb wrote: »

snowy0wl wrote: »

I double checked, my height was wrong and was corrected before I gave you the numbers but it is set to male. Selected seditary and work out 60minutes for 6 days a week.

MFP doesn't give males 1200 calories ever...the bottom limit is 1500

So something is wrong there if you're saying it gives you 1200

What's your age, height, current weight

The exercise you target is not relevant to the calories set, that's just a target

I'm a male and MFP says my goal is 1460.

Then you either put in your stats wrong or are trying to go for to aggressive of a goal.

I disagree.

Regardless, my point is that those claiming that MFP "can't" computer a <1500 Cal goal for males are wrong.

I think MFP must glitch, a lot, because it states that it won't go below 1500 for men and 1200 for women .. I can't get mine to go below 1200 as a woman but when I reset to being a male it does allow me to drop below 1500

rabbitjb wrote: »

Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »

rabbitjb wrote: »

snowy0wl wrote: »

at .5 1920 in and 2370 out.

I'd go with that eat 1920 then add your exercise calories

I thought MFP for men wouldn't go below 1500

Didn't they just announce that?

Found it http://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/1375583-a-message-about-myfitnesspal-s-updated-nutrition-goals

Clearly the algorithms are, like everything else on MFP, a little shaky

Snowyowl...eat the 1950 as a minimum