Tired of being skinny fat.

luceegj

I'm the same I have such stuborn fat and wont shift! The back of my thighs! GOOOOOO AWAY!!!!!

jonnythan

Personnally, I think you look nicer in the first picture..(wondering if THIS simple observation in fringes mfp's draconian rules)

Mfp's draconian rules? No, more like just common decency.

so saying someone looks attractive in a before picture is rude?? Why??

Because not only was she not asking how attractive anyone found her progress, you basically told her "wow, all that work you did was a big waste of time because now you look worse."

That's pretty GD rude. It's doubly rude because it's completely offtopic.

momzeeee

personnally...I think you look much nicer in the first pic...if that is "skinny fat"....bring it on!!!!

Thanks. While I am not offended, I am curious as to why you are posting this. This is not the purpose of the thread, nor are your other comments against women who are looking to recomp their bf%.

I went from 24% bf to approximately 18%, which should satisfy the OPs query.

ETA, of and OP- I ate at maintenance which was about 2k per day. I am 140 and 5'8". Same weight in both pics.

I think you look awesome! Right now I'm in between your two pictures-my back has some definition, but my arms and thighs still need to catch up! I've been doing strength training since end of March, so I know it will come eventually I haven't started weights yet-that's the next step, going to finish Mark Lauren's strength training program and then go from there!

ZoeLifts

Granted, I see what you're saying. Mainly, Sara's need to express her irritability of other people's rudeness with rudeness compelled me to intervene. And while I don't go out insulting other people or their progress, some things are better left unsaid. Meaning I could have afforded not to express my dislike for her progress. Really, because that woman obviously worked hard for all that!

Oh and sara you are quite welcome to have your opinion regardless if I like it or not but just remember I'm welcome to have mine.

See that part in bold up there ^^? That is a flat out lie. Because you did insult vJohn's progress by saying that you agreed with the other ladies that thought the first pic (her BEFORE) pic, looked better. How is that not insulting someone's progress? This is your quote, in along the rest that, for some reason, felt like they needed to insult someone's hard work and fabulous progress:

Who the frick asked yours? Since when was giving ones opinion bad? I happen to agree as well. Not hatin on the lady... very lovely figure either way.. would kill for that *kitten*...

How the frick is that not insulting someone's progress? How is that not rude in your little world? How would you feel if you worked your butt off to get your body a certain way and people were saying they liked it better before?

ZoeLifts

so saying someone looks attractive in a before picture is rude?? Why??

You didn't say that. You said this.

personnally...I think you look much nicer in the first pic...if that is "skinny fat"....bring it on!!!!

It's rude because no one was asking which picture you found more attractive. That wasn't the topic of conversation. It would be like if you reached your goal weight, posted a success story thread, and someone said: You looked better fat.

If you want to rate people on their body type there are threads for that. This thread is simply about how to get to a lower body fat.

Yep. Plus saying she looks much nicer before directly implies she looks much worse now (as in how she currently looks). How someone cannot see that this is not rude is baffling. And then repeating it verbatim (subsequently edited) and asking if that is better is even more baffling.

VJ is a total hottie, both before and after, however, as you mention, that is not the point of this thread, something that seems to escape some people who still feel the need to comment. Makes me wonder why they feel the need to be so rude.

^QFT. All of this!

6spdeg

for what its worth.. skinny fat is just as bad as just being plain ole fat to me... health is much more important than either of those.. showing some athletic build is FANTASTIC in my book...

MrsBobaFett

so saying someone looks attractive in a before picture is rude?? Why??

You didn't say that. You said this.

personnally...I think you look much nicer in the first pic...if that is "skinny fat"....bring it on!!!!

It's rude because no one was asking which picture you found more attractive. That wasn't the topic of conversation. It would be like if you reached your goal weight, posted a success story thread, and someone said: You looked better fat.

If you want to rate people on their body type there are threads for that. This thread is simply about how to get to a lower body fat.

This!!

I hate being skinny fat! Gimme gains!!!!

DebbieLyn63

I hope i'm not derailing this thread by saying this, but sometimes I dislike the term "skinny fat" because I think it can really feed into people's ED issues... they focus on "fat" and think "I need to eat less and run more!" when really it's not that their bf% is high because they have oh so much fat. Their bf% is high because they have oh so little LBM. The key is to build LBM.

And the only way to build LBM is to eat enough to build LBM and do resistance training.

Just a thought.

THANK YOU! Every time I see the term skinny-fat on here it make my BP go up a few points. The medical term for this is Normal Weight Obesity. It is when someone has a BF% in the OBESE range, yet their BMI is normal. A 20% BF on a women is nowhere near OBESE, and is very much below the top of the healthy range for most women. So what does this say to those who are striving to get into a healthy BF%, when 20% is described as gross??

A better title to this thread would have been "I want more muscles!"

Please stop misusing this term!

spectralmoon

Awesome work and definition, OP! Your shoulders look absolutely amazing in the second shot!

I'm sorry that your thread got derailed from your question about lifting and time and into a back-and-forth because of people that don't think before they post.

Achrya

You know my favorite part about threads dealing with women interested in strength gains/a more muscular frame?

Let's me give that ignore user button a workout. Casual rudeness I just roll my eyes at, but the vehement defense of said unsolicited rudeness? Yeah no. Its bad enough to be an *kitten*, but to then defend your right to be an *kitten* by claiming someone was mean when they called out jerk behavior? The mind boggles.

kitka82

personnally...I think you look much nicer in the first pic...if that is "skinny fat"....bring it on!!!!

Thanks. While I am not offended, I am curious as to why you are posting this. This is not the purpose of the thread, nor are your other comments against women who are looking to recomp their bf%.

I went from 24% bf to approximately 18%, which should satisfy the OPs query.

ETA, of and OP- I ate at maintenance which was about 2k per day. I am 140 and 5'8". Same weight in both pics.

I've heard that body recomp can take a long time. I'm impressed that you made this much progress eating at maintenance for only 6 months. Way to go.

vjohn04

I am actually pretty embarrassed that the OPs thread got completely derailed. I hope she comes back, and if she does- there are some great people on here that have contributed information to help her achieve her goal.

Unfortunately, there are also some people that didn't have anything useful to say to the OP's question and felt the need to take this off topic and provide personal visual preferences. I'm sorry that there's a few pages of crap to wade through in order to get some useful guidance.

Here's the bottom line.... the way my body looks is for ME, not you, not my husband(though he gets to enjoy it), not my coworkers, or friends, nobody but ME.
My body was for ME when I was out of shape, and it is for ME now.

The best way people show their true colors is how they project themselves on to other people...


Thanks to all of my friends (some known, and others unknown (like new friends)) that had positive comments on this thread.
OP, if you come back, please feel free to PM me if you have questions, if I can't help--- I can guide you to the people I know who can.


Thanks!

Laces_0ut

Who the frick asked yours? Since when was giving ones opinion bad? I happen to agree as well. Not hatin on the lady... very lovely figure either way.. would kill for that *kitten*...

When it was not asked for, is completely off topic and is downright rude...should be obvious really.

Oh its totally ok for you to be rude telling people to go away and ****... I think we are allowed to give our personal opinion here. I'm also willing to bet that the woman has better things to worry about then people on the internet.

You're certainly allowed to as we're allowed to tell you that we think your 'opinion' is uncalled for. It would be like if you started a thread on how to get to a low body fat and I broke in and said 'Hey. Just to let you know I don't find your face attractive.'

Granted, I see what you're saying. Mainly, Sara's need to express her irritability of other people's rudeness with rudeness compelled me to intervene. And while I don't go out insulting other people or their progress, some things are better left unsaid. Meaning I could have afforded not to express my dislike for her progress. Really, because that woman obviously worked hard for all that!

Oh and sara you are quite welcome to have your opinion regardless if I like it or not but just remember I'm welcome to have mine.

what is wrong with you?

DebbieLyn63

hey it's better than just being fat!

yep. the term skinny fat is so damn offensive.

I don't understand. Please explain.

nothing wrong with not being muscular. i'm not sure why we need to invent a derogatory term for it. back in the 70's women weren't muscular and that was fine. now it's like if you're not muscular there is something wrong with you and you're skinny fat. insulting. we can't just accept the beauty of all types of bodies instead of creating insults where there doesn't need to be one?

Very well said. I personally like to have strong muscles with some definition, but I don't put down anyone who doesn't have that same goal. I have a body that is genetically built to have more muscles naturally. Some women have naturally lean bodies with less muscles and look beautiful. I could never have their bodies because of my genetics.
We need to accept that we are built differently and find the beauty in our natural shape, and strive to make it the best it can be, to meet our own preference.

A woman that is 5'9", 132, who describes herself 'fat' in any way, concerns me. And it concerns me that many young women reading this, that are her size, will further hate their own bodies because they still don't measure up. That is a vicious downward spiral.

6spdeg

well its sad to see a normal size weight looking person.. that finds out they have a 30% and sometimes higher body fat.. or to see someone again small in size has trouble sitting down essentially squat and has to grab on to something to pick themselves up..

hsnider29

hey it's better than just being fat!

yep. the term skinny fat is so damn offensive.

I don't understand. Please explain.

nothing wrong with not being muscular. i'm not sure why we need to invent a derogatory term for it. back in the 70's women weren't muscular and that was fine. now it's like if you're not muscular there is something wrong with you and you're skinny fat. insulting. we can't just accept the beauty of all types of bodies instead of creating insults where there doesn't need to be one?

Very well said. I personally like to have strong muscles with some definition, but I don't put down anyone who doesn't have that same goal. I have a body that is genetically built to have more muscles naturally. Some women have naturally lean bodies with less muscles and look beautiful. I could never have their bodies because of my genetics.
We need to accept that we are built differently and find the beauty in our natural shape, and strive to make it the best it can be, to meet our own preference.

A woman that is 5'9", 132, who describes herself 'fat' in any way, concerns me. And it concerns me that many young women reading this, that are her size, will further hate their own bodies because they still don't measure up. That is a vicious downward spiral.

I don't think the OP stated what her body fat percentage is at right now. It is possible that she has a high BF and a normal weight, especially if she has had a moderate calorie deficit for an extended period of time without strength training. I understand that skinny fat can mean different things to different people but I don't think it is derogatory.

Carnivor0us

so who says you look better now?

If she thinks she looks better, that's what matters. Not random internet lady.

I personally think she looks better now, because she just looks healthier and stronger, which to me is very beautiful.

Lmans77

I have seen no pics on this thread that are "skinny fat". Both picture posters looked great and slim before and great and more muscular after. But not skinny fat. Not to take away from their progress but they already had lower bf%.

I am skinny fat. 5'2, 131 lbs and 30%+ bf but I wear a size 6/8. That is a skinny fat in my opinion.

But on the other hand, I don't think I need to be sub-20% bf or shredded to not be considered "skinny fat".

jonnythan

hey it's better than just being fat!

yep. the term skinny fat is so damn offensive.

I don't understand. Please explain.

nothing wrong with not being muscular. i'm not sure why we need to invent a derogatory term for it. back in the 70's women weren't muscular and that was fine. now it's like if you're not muscular there is something wrong with you and you're skinny fat. insulting. we can't just accept the beauty of all types of bodies instead of creating insults where there doesn't need to be one?

Very well said. I personally like to have strong muscles with some definition, but I don't put down anyone who doesn't have that same goal. I have a body that is genetically built to have more muscles naturally. Some women have naturally lean bodies with less muscles and look beautiful. I could never have their bodies because of my genetics.
We need to accept that we are built differently and find the beauty in our natural shape, and strive to make it the best it can be, to meet our own preference.

A woman that is 5'9", 132, who describes herself 'fat' in any way, concerns me. And it concerns me that many young women reading this, that are her size, will further hate their own bodies because they still don't measure up. That is a vicious downward spiral.

I don't think the OP stated what her body fat percentage is at right now. It is possible that she has a high BF and a normal weight, especially if she has had a moderate calorie deficit for an extended period of time without strength training. I understand that skinny fat can mean different things to different people but I don't think it is derogatory.

The problem is that when people who are already at a healthy weight (or even underweight) find something small on their body to worry about, it gives them a new term to fixate on and obsess about. A woman who is 5'9" and 132 may not have as much lean muscle mass as she would like to have, but terms like "skinny fat" when they are misused like this can lead to body dysmorphia, if not for her personally, for others reading this thread.

Now, OTH, I have actually BEEN skinny fat, lost a great deal of weight because I was sick and so killed all my LBM and I was skin and sag. It doesn't feel good and it didn't look good. It wasn't "oh, I still have a little bit of tummy pooch." But if we keep throwing around the term willy nilly (including to describe those who are at healthy body weight percentages) that's how it's going to get trivialized.

I don't think so. The term skinnyfat puts emphasis on body composition as opposed to just size or weight. That's a significant difference.

I don't think we should use the term to describe people who are at healthy body fat percentages, but the term is useful to describe people who are (or have gotten) to a low weight but still have poor body composition.

hsnider29

hey it's better than just being fat!

yep. the term skinny fat is so damn offensive.

I don't understand. Please explain.

nothing wrong with not being muscular. i'm not sure why we need to invent a derogatory term for it. back in the 70's women weren't muscular and that was fine. now it's like if you're not muscular there is something wrong with you and you're skinny fat. insulting. we can't just accept the beauty of all types of bodies instead of creating insults where there doesn't need to be one?

Very well said. I personally like to have strong muscles with some definition, but I don't put down anyone who doesn't have that same goal. I have a body that is genetically built to have more muscles naturally. Some women have naturally lean bodies with less muscles and look beautiful. I could never have their bodies because of my genetics.
We need to accept that we are built differently and find the beauty in our natural shape, and strive to make it the best it can be, to meet our own preference.

A woman that is 5'9", 132, who describes herself 'fat' in any way, concerns me. And it concerns me that many young women reading this, that are her size, will further hate their own bodies because they still don't measure up. That is a vicious downward spiral.

I don't think the OP stated what her body fat percentage is at right now. It is possible that she has a high BF and a normal weight, especially if she has had a moderate calorie deficit for an extended period of time without strength training. I understand that skinny fat can mean different things to different people but I don't think it is derogatory.

The problem is that when people who are already at a healthy weight (or even underweight) find something small on their body to worry about, it gives them a new term to fixate on and obsess about. A woman who is 5'9" and 132 may not have as much lean muscle mass as she would like to have, but terms like "skinny fat" when they are misused like this can lead to body dysmorphia, if not for her personally, for others reading this thread.

Now, OTH, I have actually BEEN skinny fat, lost a great deal of weight because I was sick and so killed all my LBM and I was skin and sag. It doesn't feel good and it didn't look good. It wasn't "oh, I still have a little bit of tummy pooch." But if we keep throwing around the term willy nilly (including to describe those who are at healthy body weight percentages) that's how it's going to get trivialized.

People are going to find things to obsess about and worry about no matter what term we use. If you let words have power over you then they will.

Neither of the pictures showed "skinny fat" but I don't think either woman claimed that they were skinny fat. I believe they posted to show that body recomposition is possible.