Help me break my plateau? Plus other questions...

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  • Chrisparadise579
    Chrisparadise579 Posts: 411 Member
    Just a note on the abs question, ever heard the saying "abs are made in the kitchen"?
    It's true, the more fat you lose the more visible your abs will become.

    Abs are muscles that we use everyday, they sit under your tummy fat. Imagine a brick wall with a layer of foam sheeting laying over it, the thinner the foam layer (fat) the more visible the shape of the brick (abs) will become.

    In short, training abs won't get you a visible six-pack, it will increase your core strength. Those ab muscles will only be visible when there is less fat covering them.

    on the dot!
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    ive seen all the video logs and love them! and I know the point of a reverse diet isnt to lose, but it is very common for weight loss to happen.

    Well, you have to remember the context here. Dr Norton is referring to people on extreme diets i.e. BB, physique, figure, and bikini competitors that diet and train very hard. Normal dieters are not likely to experience these issue or at least not to near the same degree he is warning of in these videos.
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    Run_Fit wrote: »
    fatcity66 wrote: »
    @Chrisparadise579‌ I sent you a pm.

    And I second. .. not again, what??

    That is all bull honkey. Haven't you been on the forums for a while? You should know this already.

    Please, tell me more about this "metabolic damage" and how I can repair such. :wink:

    How about a patch kit? ;)
  • WatchJoshLift
    WatchJoshLift Posts: 520 Member
    Run_Fit wrote: »
    fatcity66 wrote: »
    @Chrisparadise579‌ I sent you a pm.

    And I second. .. not again, what??

    That is all bull honkey. Haven't you been on the forums for a while? You should know this already.

    Please, tell me more about this "metabolic damage" and how I can repair such. :wink:

    How about a patch kit? ;)

    Sounds like a quick fix, works for me! :smiley:
  • Chrisparadise579
    Chrisparadise579 Posts: 411 Member
    i wish you could like posts on here
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    also feel free to pm me, I love talking nutrition science

    @Chrisparadise579 I've pm'd you and asked you a question re your protein balls, and you never reply....

  • Blueseraphchaos
    Blueseraphchaos Posts: 843 Member
    OP: try using a food scale if you aren't already and read the stickied post on this forum about logging properly.

    That's the first step...
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    i wish you could like posts on here

    We have been asking for that for a while. :\
  • WatchJoshLift
    WatchJoshLift Posts: 520 Member
    OP: try using a food scale if you aren't already and read the stickied post on this forum about logging properly.

    That's the first step...

    Food scale? Don't blow your money, just weigh your food on your bathroom scale. :wink:
  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
    kimny72 wrote: »
    @Chrisparadise579‌ I sent you a pm.

    And I second. .. not again, what??

    I'll take a few guesses, probably one of these...
    "ill try to help here but it will be easier over private message" (which is against forum rules)
    "Metabolic damage"
    A variation of increase your calories to lose weight when OPs diary is closed so she may just be logging improperly

    It's against the rules to help some via PM? Then why does it exist?
  • kimny72
    kimny72 Posts: 16,011 Member
    elphie754 wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    @Chrisparadise579‌ I sent you a pm.

    And I second. .. not again, what??

    I'll take a few guesses, probably one of these...
    "ill try to help here but it will be easier over private message" (which is against forum rules)
    "Metabolic damage"
    A variation of increase your calories to lose weight when OPs diary is closed so she may just be logging improperly

    It's against the rules to help some via PM? Then why does it exist?

    It's against the rules to tell someone you will answer their question better in PMs rather than on the boards in order to somehow profit. It's typical for someone trying to sell something to ask newbies to contact them privately so they don't get in trouble for trying to sell something on MFP. While it's not clear that is what was happening here, I thought it was worth mentioning.
  • Blueseraphchaos
    Blueseraphchaos Posts: 843 Member
    Run_Fit wrote: »
    OP: try using a food scale if you aren't already and read the stickied post on this forum about logging properly.

    That's the first step...

    Food scale? Don't blow your money, just weigh your food on your bathroom scale. :wink:

    The only place i can put a scale in my house is right in front of my front door. The ENTIRE rest of my house is covered in carpet.

    Who covers a bathroom in carpet?

    I have a big black sheet hanging on the door to cover the window. I could just imagine the mailman walking up to deliver my mail if the sheet was not there one day and i were trying to weigh myself. And all my food. Haha
  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
    edited February 2015
    kimny72 wrote: »
    elphie754 wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    @Chrisparadise579‌ I sent you a pm.

    And I second. .. not again, what??

    I'll take a few guesses, probably one of these...
    "ill try to help here but it will be easier over private message" (which is against forum rules)
    "Metabolic damage"
    A variation of increase your calories to lose weight when OPs diary is closed so she may just be logging improperly

    It's against the rules to help some via PM? Then why does it exist?

    It's against the rules to tell someone you will answer their question better in PMs rather than on the boards in order to somehow profit. It's typical for someone trying to sell something to ask newbies to contact them privately so they don't get in trouble for trying to sell something on MFP. While it's not clear that is what was happening here, I thought it was worth mentioning.

    I thought that only applied to people attempting to sell things? Otherwise no one would be able to go say "pm me" about anything. No offense but you really are jumping the gun and accusing him of something. I usually don't "white knight" for anyone, but have spoken to him several times in PM and there was no mention of selling things.

    Eta: the word thought lol. Forgot to type it.
  • kimny72
    kimny72 Posts: 16,011 Member
    edited February 2015
    elphie754 wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    elphie754 wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    @Chrisparadise579‌ I sent you a pm.

    And I second. .. not again, what??

    I'll take a few guesses, probably one of these...
    "ill try to help here but it will be easier over private message" (which is against forum rules)
    "Metabolic damage"
    A variation of increase your calories to lose weight when OPs diary is closed so she may just be logging improperly

    It's against the rules to help some via PM? Then why does it exist?

    It's against the rules to tell someone you will answer their question better in PMs rather than on the boards in order to somehow profit. It's typical for someone trying to sell something to ask newbies to contact them privately so they don't get in trouble for trying to sell something on MFP. While it's not clear that is what was happening here, I thought it was worth mentioning.

    I that only applied to people attempting to sell things? Otherwise no one would be able to go say "pm me" about anything. No offense but you really are jumping the gun and accusing him of something. I usually don't "white knight" for anyone, but have spoken to him several times in PM and there was no mention of selling things.

    Someone suggested he was posting something he shouldn't "again". Someone else asked "why" he got that comment. So I said I was going to "guess" a few possibilities why. The PM comment was one of my guesses, that's it. If its not the case, that's awesome.
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  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    Can you open your diary?

    This.



  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    So where are these links that claim metabolic damage at 3500 calories per day?
  • MrCoolGrim
    MrCoolGrim Posts: 351 Member
    OP, its a hard question to answer when you haven't provided sufficient information. How long have you been trainingg for? If it has been for a couple of weeks I would say be patient. if it has been for a few months then something is wrong in the kitchen, your probably eating at or over maintanence calories.
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  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    edited February 2015
    MrM27 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    So where are these links that claim metabolic damage at 3500 calories per day?
    There won't be because Chrisparadise more than likely will not be returning to this topic. I'm actually surprised he even replied to someone to begin with as he has never done that. It's always the same off the mark information with him.

    Sounds familiar right. It's funny how I can just laugh at my fault on this one?
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  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    So where are these links that claim metabolic damage at 3500 calories per day?
    There won't be because Chrisparadise more than likely will not be returning to this topic. I'm actually surprised he even replied to someone to begin with as he has never done that. It's always the same off the mark information with him.

    Sounds familiar right. It's funny how I can just laugh at my fault on this one?

    Not really, at least you would stick around and debate. Not only that, as is evident you took the time and corrected what you though. Thumbs up buddy. #bromance #EbonyAndIvory

    My facts needed to be corrected or it would be ten years later and I would still be trying to lose the weight which having excess body fat puts me in a high health risk category. It gets worse as we get older. I was also too lazy at first to want to get a food scale and count calories.

    OP I did not read if you own a food scale. Get one it will change the way you eat with serving sizes and making getting to your goals easier.
  • SLLRunner wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    Can you open your diary?

    This.



    I don't even have a food diary. The last time I did one of those was in sixth grade LOL. I just watch out for sodium levels and carbs, especially fat carbs. I can tell you that almost every morning I eat cereal with milk. And I have a small snack one or twice a day. For lunch and dinner there's always some protein meat in there and some starches like rice or bread. I also drink milk a lot lol.
  • OP, its a hard question to answer when you haven't provided sufficient information. How long have you been trainingg for? If it has been for a couple of weeks I would say be patient. if it has been for a few months then something is wrong in the kitchen, your probably eating at or over maintanence calories.

    Since last June
  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
    edited February 2015


    I don't even have a food diary. The last time I did one of those was in sixth grade LOL. I just watch out for sodium levels and carbs, especially fat carbs. I can tell you that almost every morning I eat cereal with milk. And I have a small snack one or twice a day. For lunch and dinner there's always some protein meat in there and some starches like rice or bread. I also drink milk a lot lol.

    If you don't have a food diary, how do you know how much you are actually consuming?
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    edited February 2015
    xruss7 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    Can you open your diary?

    This.



    I don't even have a food diary. The last time I did one of those was in sixth grade LOL. I just watch out for sodium levels and carbs, especially fat carbs. I can tell you that almost every morning I eat cereal with milk. And I have a small snack one or twice a day. For lunch and dinner there's always some protein meat in there and some starches like rice or bread. I also drink milk a lot lol.

    Well, since you don't have a food diary, you don't know how much you are eating. When we don't know how much we are eating, we are generally eating too much.

    You are eating too much and that is why you are not losing weight.

    If you don't want to keep a food diary, it will take more trial and error to find out the amount of food you can eat to lose weight.

    Oh, as you lose weight, you need less calories. I say this because I see you've lost 11 pounds.

    25 pounds will take awhile to lose too, since it's really not that much.
  • MrCoolGrim
    MrCoolGrim Posts: 351 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    xruss7 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    Can you open your diary?

    This.



    I don't even have a food diary. The last time I did one of those was in sixth grade LOL. I just watch out for sodium levels and carbs, especially fat carbs. I can tell you that almost every morning I eat cereal with milk. And I have a small snack one or twice a day. For lunch and dinner there's always some protein meat in there and some starches like rice or bread. I also drink milk a lot lol.

    Well, since you don't have a food diary, you don't know how much you are eating. When we don't know how much we are eating, we are generally eating too much.

    You are eating too much and that is why you are not losing weight.

    If you don't want to keep a food diary, it will take more trial and error to find out the amount of food you can eat to lose weight.

    Oh, as you lose weight, you need less calories. I say this because I see you've lost 11 pounds.

    25 pounds will take awhile to lose too, since it's really not that much.

    ^^^ this.
  • elphie754 wrote: »

    I don't even have a food diary. The last time I did one of those was in sixth grade LOL. I just watch out for sodium levels and carbs, especially fat carbs. I can tell you that almost every morning I eat cereal with milk. And I have a small snack one or twice a day. For lunch and dinner there's always some protein meat in there and some starches like rice or bread. I also drink milk a lot lol.

    If you don't have a food diary, how do you know how much you are actually consuming?

    Writes down the calories
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    xruss7 wrote: »
    elphie754 wrote: »

    I don't even have a food diary. The last time I did one of those was in sixth grade LOL. I just watch out for sodium levels and carbs, especially fat carbs. I can tell you that almost every morning I eat cereal with milk. And I have a small snack one or twice a day. For lunch and dinner there's always some protein meat in there and some starches like rice or bread. I also drink milk a lot lol.

    If you don't have a food diary, how do you know how much you are actually consuming?

    Writes down the calories

    With using a food scale?

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