can stronglift be reduced to 3x5?
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You have 25-35 more pounds to go… You shouldn't have your rate of loss set so high. Take it down to a pound a week at most. That will give you more calories to eat. Giving up weight lifting because you are so close to your goal is ridiculous.0
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But I don't eat 1370 calories a day, I eat between 1700 to 1900 a day. If I set my.calorie goal for 1900 a day, I'd still be doing the exact same thing I'm doing now except I wouldn't be eating my exercise calories back. So it's
A. Set calorie goal at what myp says it should be and eat my exercise calories back
B. Enter some arbitrary number based off ??? And don't eat my exercise calories back.
I don't see the difference really. You all say 1370 is too low, well blame mfp for that number. Mfp has been my godsend and has helped me lose 87lbs, idk why I'd start ignoring it now.
I think I'm just going to switch to another program and worry about heavy lifting later. Body pump, p90x3, or focus t25. Those last 2 seem to have great results and take less time.
Thanks for the help guys and gals.0 -
I try to get cardio in because my calorie goal to lose 2lbs a week is low is 1370, so I like to burn calories so I can eat more. I get that number based off mfp and I know its accurate because for 2 weeks I ignored that number and went 1500 instead and my weight loss was 1lb in both of those 2 weeks.
Weight lifting doesn't burn many calories, at least not in a quantitative manner like cardio does.
I think your goals are conflicting with each other. It will be tough, if not nearly impossible to make any significant strength gains on a calorie deficit. let alone a big calorie deficit like yours. At best, you might be able to maintain where you are currently at but even experienced lifters on a cut cycle usually lose strength.
3x5 may be easier on you during on a deficit because you aren't stressing your body as much and therefore you also don't require as much energy to recover but don't expect to build much strength nor muscle at the same time.
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But I don't eat 1370 calories a day, I eat between 1700 to 1900 a day. If I set my.calorie goal for 1900 a day, I'd still be doing the exact same thing I'm doing now except I wouldn't be eating my exercise calories back. So it's
A. Set calorie goal at what myp says it should be and eat my exercise calories back
B. Enter some arbitrary number based off ??? And don't eat my exercise calories back.
I don't see the difference really. You all say 1370 is too low, well blame mfp for that number. Mfp has been my godsend and has helped me lose 87lbs, idk why I'd start ignoring it now.
I think I'm just going to switch to another program and worry about heavy lifting later. Body pump, p90x3, or focus t25. Those last 2 seem to have great results and take less time.
Thanks for the help guys and gals.
Calorie deficit determines speed of results.
If you did 5x5 (or 3x5, or 3x3, or whatever) and did a bit of cardio on non-lifting days, you'd be fine.
You're over-thinking this because you're new to it and you think that there's some magic bullet out there. There's not.
There's only time, commitment and consistency. That holds whether you "lift heavy", do circuit training, run races, cycle, practice a martial art, whatever.
That "magic programme" that guarantees results? It does the same thing as the one you're currently doing. Or another one you could do. People give something 2 weeks and then hop to something else. You can't evaluate anything in under a month (probably more like 2-3 months) - doesn't matter if it's for power, strength, endurance, fat loss, weight gain, anything. Period.
Any training style will work if you'll stick with it for a while.0 -
But I don't eat 1370 calories a day, I eat between 1700 to 1900 a day. If I set my.calorie goal for 1900 a day, I'd still be doing the exact same thing I'm doing now except I wouldn't be eating my exercise calories back. So it's
A. Set calorie goal at what myp says it should be and eat my exercise calories back
B. Enter some arbitrary number based off ??? And don't eat my exercise calories back.
I don't see the difference really. You all say 1370 is too low, well blame mfp for that number. Mfp has been my godsend and has helped me lose 87lbs, idk why I'd start ignoring it now.
I think I'm just going to switch to another program and worry about heavy lifting later. Body pump, p90x3, or focus t25. Those last 2 seem to have great results and take less time.
Thanks for the help guys and gals.
I would suggest just trying 3x5 or another program with fewer sets for awhile to see how it works for you, time-wise. You do not have to do 5x5 as a lifting program. It might be the most mentioned on MFP but it is just one program of many. Several other programs were mentioned earlier and another one that hasn't been mentioned is All Pro's beginner program. I ran it last fall and it took one hour, warm-up (walked on the treadmill for 5-10 minutes) to finish. You'd be lifting slightly lower weight (it's based on your 10 rm) but more reps (8-10) and you only rest 60-90 seconds between sets.0 -
FullOnBurn wrote: »I try to get cardio in because my calorie goal to lose 2lbs a week is low is 1370, so I like to burn calories so I can eat more. I get that number based off mfp and I know its accurate because for 2 weeks I ignored that number and went 1500 instead and my weight loss was 1lb in both of those 2 weeks.
Weight lifting doesn't burn many calories, at least not in a quantitative manner like cardio does.
I think your goals are conflicting with each other. It will be tough, if not nearly impossible to make any significant strength gains on a calorie deficit. let alone a big calorie deficit like yours. At best, you might be able to maintain where you are currently at but even experienced lifters on a cut cycle usually lose strength.
3x5 may be easier on you during on a deficit because you aren't stressing your body as much and therefore you also don't require as much energy to recover but don't expect to build much strength nor muscle at the same time.
that's the thing, I'm not trying to gain strength or muscle. I'm trying to get skinny and tighten my lose skin.0 -
FullOnBurn wrote: »I try to get cardio in because my calorie goal to lose 2lbs a week is low is 1370, so I like to burn calories so I can eat more. I get that number based off mfp and I know its accurate because for 2 weeks I ignored that number and went 1500 instead and my weight loss was 1lb in both of those 2 weeks.
Weight lifting doesn't burn many calories, at least not in a quantitative manner like cardio does.
I think your goals are conflicting with each other. It will be tough, if not nearly impossible to make any significant strength gains on a calorie deficit. let alone a big calorie deficit like yours. At best, you might be able to maintain where you are currently at but even experienced lifters on a cut cycle usually lose strength.
3x5 may be easier on you during on a deficit because you aren't stressing your body as much and therefore you also don't require as much energy to recover but don't expect to build much strength nor muscle at the same time.
that's the thing, I'm not trying to gain strength or muscle. I'm trying to get skinny and tighten my lose skin.
Calorie deficit to get skinny. A bigger one to get skinny fast. More than likely, you'll need time at maintenance for the skin to tighten up.0 -
Do you want to maintain your current strength levels?0
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Then I would say go ahead and try the P90x or other alternatives that you mentioned or a different lifting program (like the All Pro's I mentioned above.) For me, right now, I am at a spot where my main focus is losing fat. Eventually, I want to build muscle and I'd like to gain strength but I'm at the point where, as long as I am eating in a deficit, my strength is pretty much just going nowhere. So I'm lifting to maintain right now and I am perfectly fine with that and it sounds like you are the same. Your goals and focus may change down the road, when you are at or closer to your ideal weight/weight range. That is completely normal and to be expected. Any of those programs will be fine for you for your current focus.
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Going to a 3x5 format is fine...basically you'll be doing Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength...SL 5x5 is basically a higher volume version of Starting Strength.0
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Then I would say go ahead and try the P90x or other alternatives that you mentioned or a different lifting program (like the All Pro's I mentioned above.) For me, right now, I am at a spot where my main focus is losing fat. Eventually, I want to build muscle and I'd like to gain strength but I'm at the point where, as long as I am eating in a deficit, my strength is pretty much just going nowhere. So I'm lifting to maintain right now and I am perfectly fine with that and it sounds like you are the same. Your goals and focus may change down the road, when you are at or closer to your ideal weight/weight range. That is completely normal and to be expected. Any of those programs will be fine for you for your current focus.
Yeah once I'm in maintenance phase, ill worry about building strength, all I know is I'll never want to be one of those guys who live to lift and has huge muscles. Nothing wrong with those guys, just isn't me.
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Your goals are more clear now, but my original statement still holds. It is very difficult to even maintain current strength on an aggressive calorie deficit. If you are looking to aggressively lose weight then cardio work with a caloric deficit is what you need, calories in vs calories out. Building strength, which isn't necessarily synonymous with bodybuilding, requires at lot of energy and often at a surplus.
Programs like 5x5, Starting Strength, 5/3/1 are version of progression programs where you regularly increase the weight to overload your system, which responds in turn by building strength. That rest and recovery requires a lot of energy and you can't do that on a big deficit and progress to higher weights at the same time, A linear progression program in the lower rep range may not be for you at this time.
BTW, people work for years and go to extraordinary lengths to get big, so most of us don't have to worry about bulking up by lifting weights.0 -
Then I would say go ahead and try the P90x or other alternatives that you mentioned or a different lifting program (like the All Pro's I mentioned above.) For me, right now, I am at a spot where my main focus is losing fat. Eventually, I want to build muscle and I'd like to gain strength but I'm at the point where, as long as I am eating in a deficit, my strength is pretty much just going nowhere. So I'm lifting to maintain right now and I am perfectly fine with that and it sounds like you are the same. Your goals and focus may change down the road, when you are at or closer to your ideal weight/weight range. That is completely normal and to be expected. Any of those programs will be fine for you for your current focus.
Yeah once I'm in maintenance phase, ill worry about building strength, all I know is I'll never want to be one of those guys who live to lift and has huge muscles. Nothing wrong with those guys, just isn't me.
Thanks
Don't underestimate the value of simply being better at life. Lifting things, moving things, etc... you do that every day. Strength training makes them easier and safer. I can't begin to tell you all the benefits I see in that regard as a result of my lifting. There's a difference between being strong and being big. Being strong is good for everyone.0 -
With your plan, you'll ensure you have very little in the way of muscle, so then with that in mind.
Then I would say go ahead and try the P90x or other alternatives that you mentioned or a different lifting program (like the All Pro's I mentioned above.) For me, right now, I am at a spot where my main focus is losing fat. Eventually, I want to build muscle and I'd like to gain strength but I'm at the point where, as long as I am eating in a deficit, my strength is pretty much just going nowhere. So I'm lifting to maintain right now and I am perfectly fine with that and it sounds like you are the same. Your goals and focus may change down the road, when you are at or closer to your ideal weight/weight range. That is completely normal and to be expected. Any of those programs will be fine for you for your current focus.
Yeah once I'm in maintenance phase, ill worry about building strength, all I know is I'll never want to be one of those guys who live to lift and has huge muscles. Nothing wrong with those guys, just isn't me.
Thanks
You have a good plan. Keep it up, consistency is key.
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When I was doing madcow I reduced everything to 3x5.0
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Why do certain posts have a lock/gate in front? I can't read one of the responses.0
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With your plan, you'll ensure you have very little in the way of muscle, so then with that in mind.
Then I would say go ahead and try the P90x or other alternatives that you mentioned or a different lifting program (like the All Pro's I mentioned above.) For me, right now, I am at a spot where my main focus is losing fat. Eventually, I want to build muscle and I'd like to gain strength but I'm at the point where, as long as I am eating in a deficit, my strength is pretty much just going nowhere. So I'm lifting to maintain right now and I am perfectly fine with that and it sounds like you are the same. Your goals and focus may change down the road, when you are at or closer to your ideal weight/weight range. That is completely normal and to be expected. Any of those programs will be fine for you for your current focus.
Yeah once I'm in maintenance phase, ill worry about building strength, all I know is I'll never want to be one of those guys who live to lift and has huge muscles. Nothing wrong with those guys, just isn't me.
Thanks
You have a good plan. Keep it up, consistency is key.
@Robbnva, the poster is in timeout so he's got bars across his profile pic in the forums. There is a bug in the app/mobile version where the bars cover the entire post.
If you use the desktop version, you can read what dbmata said.
it's a known issue with MFP.
I've quoted the post here for you.
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Reading the post about tdee and BMR in that group that is basically what I said I could do in an earlier post. Have a set calorie goal and don't eat back exercise calories (what they recommend) or follow mfp and eat back the calories. In the end its basically a wash.0
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