I cannot gain weight.. CANT DO IT ;(
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And for the love of Christ (sorry if that offended anyone), leave that srdk or whatever his name is alone. haha. He does somewhat have a point. Most of us don't follow this, but eating healthy should be somewhat of a priority. I mean let's not tell people who want to gain weight to eat boxes of oreos everyday, I mean honestly when we get older we're going to pay for it health wise. We all don't think about that now because most of us our fairly young it seems. Now don't get me wrong I don't really watch what I eat, but I can tell you that I don't eat pizza, I don't eat ice cream, I don't cookies and cakes. I have managed to still gain weight and eat lots of calories without eating said items. We should welcome all people's opinions and suggestions, the OP can take whatever opinon is most helpful in the end.
Can you please point out where anyone told anyone else to eat a whole box of oreos
yes, I second this, please find the direct quote where anyone said "eat a whole box of oreos"…
I won't hold my breath….0 -
Chocolate....I but look at it!0
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Not saying anyone said that, I was basically making point because people were apparently against the idea of someone encouraging to eat healthy. That is all.0
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Nobody got my point...0
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Not saying anyone said that, I was basically making point because people were apparently against the idea of someone encouraging to eat healthy. That is all.
no one was against eating healthy ..
the poster created a straw man argument saying that some of us were advocating for a diet of Pizza, cookies and ice cream all day. I believe his quote was "hoarding ice cream"…
No one made that argument. What we all said is eat foods to hit your macro and micro goal for the day and then fill in your other calories with whatever gets you there. In my case, I suggested bagels, pasta, ice cream, cookies etc. I never once said get 100% of your calories from those foods.
why don't you understand that?0 -
haha, guess not.0
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I think most people just don't really get how hard it is to actually hit your macros and micros every day. If people truly understood that to really do it right, it takes work. You will have to eat a variety of nutrient dense foods otherwise you will never get there. The lower the calorie goal, the more strict one will have to be. How one can honestly think that when people say IIFYM or what have you, that someone is advocating cake and ice cream all day is beyond me.0
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I think most people just don't really get how hard it is to actually hit your macros and micros every day. If people truly understood that to really do it right, it takes work. You will have to eat a variety of nutrient dense foods otherwise you will never get there. The lower the calorie goal, the more strict one will have to be. How one can honestly think that when people say IIFYM or what have you, that someone is advocating cake and ice cream all day is beyond me.
because IIFYM does not fit with the clean/good/bad dieting mindset….people have been brain washed to believe that sugar, ice cream, cookies, candy, etc, are the root of all obesity evil….0 -
Not saying anyone said that, I was basically making point because people were apparently against the idea of someone encouraging to eat healthy. That is all.
In reality we aren't. People don't focus on what we actually say but what they think we say.
People in this forum swear I eat cake, cookies and ice cream all day. But that's perception. And the thing with perception is that it can be manipulated by outsiders. With me, you see what I want you to see. It's all an illusion. I might only post pictures of my ice creams or bagels or cookies because I find pleasure in posting that food porn.
But the reality is that the majority of my day is freaking boring. 2 egg plus anywhere from 4-10 egg whites in the morning. Yup, I frequently go into a place and as then to cook me 12 eggs and they think I'm crazy and it takes them 5 minutes to figure out what is a reasonable price. I also like to make sweet potato home fries with diced up on in ion and I chop up 2 slices of bacon into it. Dinner is 80% of the time baked chicken breasts, a vegetable, some tomatoes, avocado etc. We also do drumsticks, pork chops, steaks etc. I eat some fruits throughout the day and I also eat 2 to 3 lunches. 1 of them almost always being a PB sandwich. I love those foods, I hit my macros, I get my nutrition from them but I'm not going to post them all over the net because it's just my run of the mill stuff. I've never said "man this is a nice looking baked chicken breast, let me take a picture".
With all that's said I leave room for my ice cream, a lunch that might be a slice of pizza, cookies, a brownie whatever. But now all those things on the same day. And that's the issue with the people that want to argue with our moderation approach, they will say "yeah okay, fill your whole day with crap", when no one said they did that to begin with. They just take some comments and take it to the extreme for argument purpose.
The issue with the guy you are trying to defend is that he's looking at foods in a vacuum. That 1 solitary food affects overall fat accumulation and muscle growth. People like to look at 1 piece of food and come to a conclusion but will completely disregard biology, physiology, microbiology etc. I enjoy taking people like that and cornering them. Some might call it being a bully some call it a debating tactic. I just see it as who I am. Maybe I'm just a sociopath, I guess we will see which personality of mine shows up later.
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Nevermind that if you actually looked at the diaries of the people who say eat healthy most of the time and the people who say to eat treats in moderation, they would be almost identical. It's a different way of describing the same thing. Both groups of people tend to focus on nutrient dense food, one is just more vocal about the treats they work into their diet.0
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I will eat to gain my problem is I will drop to what I consider a bit low 103 pounds I will start panicking I will want to gain but not too much!! so I will have a high day then will eat normal for me 2500 calories and the any gain will just drop off again.. I have a very active job and will take myself off to the gym and workout I joke I am building my abs out of chocolate!! on my days off I will sort out my horse and go to the gym too.. find it hard sometimes to pack in enough calories without adding chocolate and cake!! both are easy to eat!!
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