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First step, admit this is your problem, not hers. Comparing your self to someone else is not going to get you where you want to be. Asking for advice then questioning every response is not going to help you.
Her weight loss journey is not your weight loss journey. She probably has a high metabolism and most likely is busting ars at every workout. She may overestimate her food intake to ensure she isn't going over her goals. She may be eating quality foods and watching all of her macros. She may have found the combination of carbs/fats/proteins that works for her body and her lifestyle. And, yes, 25 minutes on an elliptical is 400 calories a week...1600 a month. Not to mention it is a huge metabolism booster.
Concentrate on what you can do to change your plateau not what someone else is doing. Maybe you can find a good nutritionist/personal trainer. A good one is worth every penny and I guarantee, they will figure out what you need to do to get yourself on the track you want to be.0 -
And do you know your body fat percentage to be 30% for certain? I tried to help, but it does seem to me like you just want to complain rather than learn. Self-pity won't help you lose more weight. Taking charge of your life will.So at 100lbs less than me she has more muscle mass than I do? LOL How is that possible. Even at 30% body fat my muscle mass would be more than her entire body weight.
I don't have an accurate way to know my body fat percentage. My scale says between 26 and 29%. It seems to vary based on how many carbs I eat honestly. I'm guessing due to the fluctuations with water weight, etc.
Might be time to spring for a BodPod reading to get an accurate number.
Also, if I'm reading this right your biggest issues seems to be that other people have an easier time losing fat that you do, right? Welcome to the club, sister. My middle brother was an all-state soccer player in high school and now in our 40s he could wear the same clothes he wore then. I could not.
For some of us it requires more effort. You've received some good advice here (eat at maintenance for a few weeks, then start at a slight deficit again. If you've lost over 100 lbs your body and metabolism are vastly different than they were. Time to start figuring them out again and determining what works NOW, since what worked before isn't getting it done any more.
You had your pity party, now it's over. Time to get back to it and fight towards your goals.
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OP - haven't other posters suggest you get your blood work done and check for a potential thyroid issue? Have you done that yet?
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Also, I would suggest reverse dieting to maintenance level stay there for about a month, and then cut back down to a 500 calorie deficit....
You could have metabolic adaptation/adaptive thermogenesis which has reset your maintenance and deficit number to a lower number....0 -
BMR formulas (and by extension, TDEE) are just equations of lines fitted to data points. Roughly half of the data is going to be above the line (higher than calculated) and roughly half below the line (lower than calculated). It might be unfair but it's completely logical. We don't see very many people complaining on this board that they are losing faster than MFP calculates, but those high burning people must exist. Maybe they complain over on Gaining Weight that they need to eat more than MFP says.
And I second ana3067 on this person's actual activity. What she calls "sedentary" someone else may call "active". I assumed I was sedentary--I drive to the train, ride the train to work, sit at my desk, ride the train back and drive to my own driveway, and watch tv every night. I don't work out at all. Then I got a pedometer and found out I was walking 7 km a day between the parking lot and the train, between the train and my workplace, puttering around the office, and running errands at lunch, just my ordinary activities of living. Then I increased it by taking the long way, taking the stairs, and being less efficient in my errands so that I have someplace I need to go every day. I'm walking 11 km a day and burning 2000 calories. If I did any "real exercise" it would be even more. To the casual observer I'm a driving, riding, desk-sitting couch potato whose biggest leisure activity is knitting.
I have a cheap little step counter thing from christmas, I should give that thing a go just to see how much I walk around on average
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He's been having a pity party on the boards for months now. Same shite, different day.bostonwolf wrote: »
And do you know your body fat percentage to be 30% for certain? I tried to help, but it does seem to me like you just want to complain rather than learn. Self-pity won't help you lose more weight. Taking charge of your life will.So at 100lbs less than me she has more muscle mass than I do? LOL How is that possible. Even at 30% body fat my muscle mass would be more than her entire body weight.
I don't have an accurate way to know my body fat percentage. My scale says between 26 and 29%. It seems to vary based on how many carbs I eat honestly. I'm guessing due to the fluctuations with water weight, etc.
Might be time to spring for a BodPod reading to get an accurate number.
Also, if I'm reading this right your biggest issues seems to be that other people have an easier time losing fat that you do, right? Welcome to the club, sister. My middle brother was an all-state soccer player in high school and now in our 40s he could wear the same clothes he wore then. I could not.
For some of us it requires more effort. You've received some good advice here (eat at maintenance for a few weeks, then start at a slight deficit again. If you've lost over 100 lbs your body and metabolism are vastly different than they were. Time to start figuring them out again and determining what works NOW, since what worked before isn't getting it done any more.
You had your pity party, now it's over. Time to get back to it and fight towards your goals.
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OP - haven't other posters suggest you get your blood work done and check for a potential thyroid issue? Have you done that yet?
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Also, I would suggest reverse dieting to maintenance level stay there for about a month, and then cut back down to a 500 calorie deficit....
You could have metabolic adaptation/adaptive thermogenesis which has reset your maintenance and deficit number to a lower number....
Yup. Solid advice IMO. I'm thinking I'll do a reverse diet once I'm consistently down to 150 or 155 for a few weeks, just to see if I can increase my intake even more. Been at this for 8 months or so, and have taken breaks but have yet to reverse diet to try and find my true current maintenance.0 -
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And that's not a huge effect??
I've already done the reverse diet up to 2700 then slashed my calories back down. It didn't seem to have a huge effect. I gained weight like I expected but it all came off almost immediately when I reduced calories. Several pounds over a few days.OP - haven't other posters suggest you get your blood work done and check for a potential thyroid issue? Have you done that yet?
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Also, I would suggest reverse dieting to maintenance level stay there for about a month, and then cut back down to a 500 calorie deficit....
You could have metabolic adaptation/adaptive thermogenesis which has reset your maintenance and deficit number to a lower number....
Yup. Solid advice IMO. I'm thinking I'll do a reverse diet once I'm consistently down to 150 or 155 for a few weeks, just to see if I can increase my intake even more. Been at this for 8 months or so, and have taken breaks but have yet to reverse diet to try and find my true current maintenance.
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I've already done the reverse diet up to 2700 then slashed my calories back down. It didn't seem to have a huge effect. I gained weight like I expected but it all came off almost immediately when I reduced calories. Several pounds over a few days.OP - haven't other posters suggest you get your blood work done and check for a potential thyroid issue? Have you done that yet?
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Also, I would suggest reverse dieting to maintenance level stay there for about a month, and then cut back down to a 500 calorie deficit....
You could have metabolic adaptation/adaptive thermogenesis which has reset your maintenance and deficit number to a lower number....
Yup. Solid advice IMO. I'm thinking I'll do a reverse diet once I'm consistently down to 150 or 155 for a few weeks, just to see if I can increase my intake even more. Been at this for 8 months or so, and have taken breaks but have yet to reverse diet to try and find my true current maintenance.
you did it wrong...
reverse diet should take a total of about two to three months...
step 1 = 100 calories a week until you hit maintenance
step 2 = once you hit maintenance stay there for a month
step 3 = slowly reduce 100 calories per week back down to deficit level of half pound or one pound per week loss...
the "gain" you experienced was more than likely water weight as glycogen replenished itself...
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I've already done the reverse diet up to 2700 then slashed my calories back down. It didn't seem to have a huge effect. I gained weight like I expected but it all came off almost immediately when I reduced calories. Several pounds over a few days.OP - haven't other posters suggest you get your blood work done and check for a potential thyroid issue? Have you done that yet?
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Also, I would suggest reverse dieting to maintenance level stay there for about a month, and then cut back down to a 500 calorie deficit....
You could have metabolic adaptation/adaptive thermogenesis which has reset your maintenance and deficit number to a lower number....
Yup. Solid advice IMO. I'm thinking I'll do a reverse diet once I'm consistently down to 150 or 155 for a few weeks, just to see if I can increase my intake even more. Been at this for 8 months or so, and have taken breaks but have yet to reverse diet to try and find my true current maintenance.
Then try it again and make sure you're doing it properly and see how much you can maintain on for a month before dieting again.0 -
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I've already done the reverse diet up to 2700 then slashed my calories back down. It didn't seem to have a huge effect. I gained weight like I expected but it all came off almost immediately when I reduced calories. Several pounds over a few days.OP - haven't other posters suggest you get your blood work done and check for a potential thyroid issue? Have you done that yet?
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Also, I would suggest reverse dieting to maintenance level stay there for about a month, and then cut back down to a 500 calorie deficit....
You could have metabolic adaptation/adaptive thermogenesis which has reset your maintenance and deficit number to a lower number....
Yup. Solid advice IMO. I'm thinking I'll do a reverse diet once I'm consistently down to 150 or 155 for a few weeks, just to see if I can increase my intake even more. Been at this for 8 months or so, and have taken breaks but have yet to reverse diet to try and find my true current maintenance.
you did it wrong...
reverse diet should take a total of about two to three months...
step 1 = 100 calories a week until you hit maintenance
step 2 = once you hit maintenance stay there for a month
step 3 = slowly reduce 100 calories per week back down to deficit level of half pound or one pound per week loss...
the "gain" you experienced was more than likely water weight as glycogen replenished itself...
What's the reasoning behind step 3? I've known about steps 1 and 2 but somehow not #3. Is it just to prevent the fast water flush or something beyond that?
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I don't get it. First of all you are comparing things to a female and her work out... You have the exact same work out... secondly I really doubt that...
If you are both the exact same DNA..same gender, weight, age same job, perhaps your biological twin????
Makes no sense and it I have seen you on other threads and this seams to be just a rant or a pity party..
You say it has been along time since.... Well change it...
You do have SSS!0 -
Oh. My. God. Do like tons of other people have suggested over the last several months (myself more than once, including this morning) and see a doctor for some blood work.0
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Take the advice you're being given, make an appointment with a doctor, and stop comparing your weight loss to other people.0
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Gees why all this going on about who does this n that concentrate on yourself look at what you have achieved and what you want stuff the world it's about YOU !!!!!0
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I've already done the reverse diet up to 2700 then slashed my calories back down. It didn't seem to have a huge effect. I gained weight like I expected but it all came off almost immediately when I reduced calories. Several pounds over a few days.OP - haven't other posters suggest you get your blood work done and check for a potential thyroid issue? Have you done that yet?
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Also, I would suggest reverse dieting to maintenance level stay there for about a month, and then cut back down to a 500 calorie deficit....
You could have metabolic adaptation/adaptive thermogenesis which has reset your maintenance and deficit number to a lower number....
Yup. Solid advice IMO. I'm thinking I'll do a reverse diet once I'm consistently down to 150 or 155 for a few weeks, just to see if I can increase my intake even more. Been at this for 8 months or so, and have taken breaks but have yet to reverse diet to try and find my true current maintenance.
you did it wrong...
reverse diet should take a total of about two to three months...
step 1 = 100 calories a week until you hit maintenance
step 2 = once you hit maintenance stay there for a month
step 3 = slowly reduce 100 calories per week back down to deficit level of half pound or one pound per week loss...
the "gain" you experienced was more than likely water weight as glycogen replenished itself...
Yup. Could even take longer if you find that you've been eating way below maintenance or want to maintain a bit longer.0 -
I've already done the reverse diet up to 2700 then slashed my calories back down. It didn't seem to have a huge effect. I gained weight like I expected but it all came off almost immediately when I reduced calories. Several pounds over a few days.OP - haven't other posters suggest you get your blood work done and check for a potential thyroid issue? Have you done that yet?
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Also, I would suggest reverse dieting to maintenance level stay there for about a month, and then cut back down to a 500 calorie deficit....
You could have metabolic adaptation/adaptive thermogenesis which has reset your maintenance and deficit number to a lower number....
Yup. Solid advice IMO. I'm thinking I'll do a reverse diet once I'm consistently down to 150 or 155 for a few weeks, just to see if I can increase my intake even more. Been at this for 8 months or so, and have taken breaks but have yet to reverse diet to try and find my true current maintenance.
you did it wrong...
reverse diet should take a total of about two to three months...
step 1 = 100 calories a week until you hit maintenance
step 2 = once you hit maintenance stay there for a month
step 3 = slowly reduce 100 calories per week back down to deficit level of half pound or one pound per week loss...
the "gain" you experienced was more than likely water weight as glycogen replenished itself...
I counted up from 2300 to 2700 starting in early December and just lowered my calories (admittedly all at once) The first week of February. Honestly, at this size is that something that should really be an issue? Again, it's not like I have 10lbs to lose. With 40 pounds to go to get to the high end of a normal weight it doesn't make much sense that I'd be stalling out and needing to take 3 months off.
You did not do it correctly. You increased over a few weeks and stayed at 2700 for 2-3 weeks. Then you lowered it to 2200 in mid-january. 2 weeks, possibly even a month, is not enough to make sure that you actually hit maintenance numbers. Did you increase to 2700 based off of a random calculator? Or did you eat until you basically started actually gaining real weight?0 -
I've already done the reverse diet up to 2700 then slashed my calories back down. It didn't seem to have a huge effect. I gained weight like I expected but it all came off almost immediately when I reduced calories. Several pounds over a few days.OP - haven't other posters suggest you get your blood work done and check for a potential thyroid issue? Have you done that yet?
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Also, I would suggest reverse dieting to maintenance level stay there for about a month, and then cut back down to a 500 calorie deficit....
You could have metabolic adaptation/adaptive thermogenesis which has reset your maintenance and deficit number to a lower number....
Yup. Solid advice IMO. I'm thinking I'll do a reverse diet once I'm consistently down to 150 or 155 for a few weeks, just to see if I can increase my intake even more. Been at this for 8 months or so, and have taken breaks but have yet to reverse diet to try and find my true current maintenance.
you did it wrong...
reverse diet should take a total of about two to three months...
step 1 = 100 calories a week until you hit maintenance
step 2 = once you hit maintenance stay there for a month
step 3 = slowly reduce 100 calories per week back down to deficit level of half pound or one pound per week loss...
the "gain" you experienced was more than likely water weight as glycogen replenished itself...
What's the reasoning behind step 3? I've known about steps 1 and 2 but somehow not #3. Is it just to prevent the fast water flush or something beyond that?
well that…and you may find that after doing the reverse diet that your one pound per week loss level is actually higher then perviously …
when I did my last bulk I raised my maintenance level from about 2600 to 2650 up to 2700 2750 so now I can cut on 2250 for a one pund per week loss as opposed to 2150 ….
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you can just cut down 500 calories and see how it goes...0 -
I've already done the reverse diet up to 2700 then slashed my calories back down. It didn't seem to have a huge effect. I gained weight like I expected but it all came off almost immediately when I reduced calories. Several pounds over a few days.OP - haven't other posters suggest you get your blood work done and check for a potential thyroid issue? Have you done that yet?
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Also, I would suggest reverse dieting to maintenance level stay there for about a month, and then cut back down to a 500 calorie deficit....
You could have metabolic adaptation/adaptive thermogenesis which has reset your maintenance and deficit number to a lower number....
Yup. Solid advice IMO. I'm thinking I'll do a reverse diet once I'm consistently down to 150 or 155 for a few weeks, just to see if I can increase my intake even more. Been at this for 8 months or so, and have taken breaks but have yet to reverse diet to try and find my true current maintenance.
you did it wrong...
reverse diet should take a total of about two to three months...
step 1 = 100 calories a week until you hit maintenance
step 2 = once you hit maintenance stay there for a month
step 3 = slowly reduce 100 calories per week back down to deficit level of half pound or one pound per week loss...
the "gain" you experienced was more than likely water weight as glycogen replenished itself...
What's the reasoning behind step 3? I've known about steps 1 and 2 but somehow not #3. Is it just to prevent the fast water flush or something beyond that?
well that…and you may find that after doing the reverse diet that your one pound per week loss level is actually higher then perviously …
when I did my last bulk I raised my maintenance level from about 2600 to 2650 up to 2700 2750 so now I can cut on 2250 for a one pund per week loss as opposed to 2150 ….
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you can just cut down 500 calories and see how it goes...
the gradual reduction seems like it'd be a good way to avoid initial hunger adjustments though. I usually just do percentages (10-20%) instead of subtracting x cals.0 -
I've actually spent lots of time in other threads trying to help you - your issue is that you won't actually give a suggestion/recommendations any real time to work before declaring it useless/ineffective.
The first thing I'd do is to stop comparing yourself to anyone else. That's a sure way to fail.
Next, I would get a full blood work up done - just to make sure everything is kosher. You may have something going on that impacts the CO part of CICO.
Then, I'd do the Bod Pod thing - give you a good idea of your actual numbers.
After all of that, you should have the information you need to be successful.
Also, your attitude could do with an adjustment.0 -
I lurk a lot, and i remember one thread recently where you jumped on, hijacked the thread by being a nasty, snarky human, and then personally attacked the girl who was asking about a plateau. It was really kind of shocking how nasty you were to this girl (who appeared to have an eating disorder, if I'm not mixing up my threads here).
Turns out you're in a plateau yourself and you don't want to do anything at all to help yourself, you just want to argue and complain.
People have offered you advice. Either take it or don't, just stop complaining about whatever choice you make.
Have a cat.
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Blueseraphchaos wrote: »I lurk a lot, and i remember one thread recently where you jumped on, hijacked the thread by being a nasty, snarky human, and then personally attacked the girl who was asking about a plateau. It was really kind of shocking how nasty you were to this girl (who appeared to have an eating disorder, if I'm not mixing up my threads here).
Turns out you're in a plateau yourself and you don't want to do anything at all to help yourself, you just want to argue and complain.
People have offered you advice. Either take it or don't, just stop complaining about whatever choice you make.
Have a cat.
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TheVirgoddess wrote: »I've actually spent lots of time in other threads trying to help you - your issue is that you won't actually give a suggestion/recommendations any real time to work before declaring it useless/ineffective.
The first thing I'd do is to stop comparing yourself to anyone else. That's a sure way to fail.
Next, I would get a full blood work up done - just to make sure everything is kosher. You may have something going on that impacts the CO part of CICO.
Then, I'd do the Bod Pod thing - give you a good idea of your actual numbers.
After all of that, you should have the information you need to be successful.
All these, plus if you really want numbers get your RMR tested when you do the BodPod (or a DEXA).0 -
emily_stew wrote: »Blueseraphchaos wrote: »I lurk a lot, and i remember one thread recently where you jumped on, hijacked the thread by being a nasty, snarky human, and then personally attacked the girl who was asking about a plateau. It was really kind of shocking how nasty you were to this girl (who appeared to have an eating disorder, if I'm not mixing up my threads here).
Turns out you're in a plateau yourself and you don't want to do anything at all to help yourself, you just want to argue and complain.
People have offered you advice. Either take it or don't, just stop complaining about whatever choice you make.
Have a cat.
Can I pet kitty's fluffy belly, or will kitty claw my hand off? Cuz I really want to pet the fluffy belly.
It's always worth a shot.
This one always says "yes!" ahem.
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