Diet fizzy juice?

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  • Jruzer
    Jruzer Posts: 3,501 Member
    The name for carbonated soft drinks is very regional, at least here in the US. When I lived in Atlanta, under the shadow of the Coca-Cola building, everything was Coke. Here in Central Wisconsin we're at the border of Pop and Soda country:
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  • Tubbs216
    Tubbs216 Posts: 6,597 Member
    Emilia777 wrote: »
    For the record OP, I just love Irn Bru! It’s so hard to get the original recipe here in Canada!
    I'm old enough to remember the old Irn Bru ads... Made in Scotland from girders...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4PxuFQCDis
  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
    I eat a 'clean' diet so none of the commercial fizzy juices for me. I do on occasion when I'm really craving it, have some flavored stevia drops in club soda/seltzer. They make flavors like grape, cola, root beer, vanilla cream... so it tastes like a soda but with less potential for harm.

    Yeah.... No. Those "drops" like have the SAME artificial sweetnERs and "chemicals" as diet soda. Most do. So basically, you are a self admitting hypocrite.

    Also- please show evidence of those so called harm...
  • Emilia777
    Emilia777 Posts: 978 Member
    Tubbs216 wrote: »
    Emilia777 wrote: »
    For the record OP, I just love Irn Bru! It’s so hard to get the original recipe here in Canada!
    I'm old enough to remember the old Irn Bru ads... Made in Scotland from girders...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4PxuFQCDis

    That video made my week. Thank you so much for sharing :smile: .
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    I don't drink any of that diet stuff.
    Here in Australia we call fizzy drinks by their actual names: coke, sprite, fanta, solo etc etc
    What do y'all do when you ask for a drink at a restaurant or wherever? You can't say " give me a glass of pop or soda", right?
  • ogmomma2012
    ogmomma2012 Posts: 1,520 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    livv365 wrote: »
    Thank you everyone! Google made it sound like it was so bad for me and drinking it would mean no weight loss! Lol x

    Moving forward on your weight loss journey, only listen to science based research, peer reviewed studies...etc. If you just google something, you will get 10,000 hits from random websites that just write opinion pieces. The diet industry is 99% a scam so always be weary.

    ^^ this. And I'll probably get ripped apart for saying this, but personally, I don't really post any questions on here unless it's to get a consumer review about a non-consumable product (sneakers, gloves, etc).

    Most people, imo, on MFP lose some weight, hit 1K posts and all of the sudden they're fitness and nutrition experts.

    I don't know, if you've managed to lose 50+lbs by doing things a certain way, wouldn't you tell people what worked? Plus, I imagine many members have researched what is and was isn't a fad, or a myth. And probably know what they are talking about.
  • Merkavar
    Merkavar Posts: 3,082 Member
    Annie3623 wrote: »
    If you don't mind drinking chemicals then it's fine for you, anything that can be used to as a household cleaning product in my eyes, is never a good move.

    So you don't eat tomatoes sauce?

    So many things can be used for cleaning that I'm sure you don't even give a 2nd glance at eating.



    I drink fizzy drink. As long as your getting enough water or not drinking enough coke etc to make you blind you should be fine.

    Fizzy drink for the win, pff soda sounds weird. It's fizzy, it's soft(not alcoholic) and its a drink. Fizzy soft drink, simples.
  • squirrelzzrule22
    squirrelzzrule22 Posts: 640 Member
    Do you mean carbonated water? Nothing wrong with that. I don't particularly care for the artificial sweeteners, but I love raspberry-lime sparkling water. Apparently it doesn't hydrate as well as regular water so it shouldn't be your ONLY source of water, but it certainly won't kill your diet.
  • fatjon73
    fatjon73 Posts: 379 Member
    I don't drink any of that diet stuff.
    Here in Australia we call fizzy drinks by their actual names: coke, sprite, fanta, solo etc etc
    What do y'all do when you ask for a drink at a restaurant or wherever? You can't say " give me a glass of pop or soda", right?
    With regards to what you call your drink. As a group it's pop but surely you call it it's name. This lady has the only sane answer on here. Lol
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    I'm scottish so if I used the word pop or soda to someone they would probably laugh at me! Haha x
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    They batter and deep fry Mars bars and pizza in Scotland. So they call there pop juice so it sounds more healthy. (I am allowed to call the jocks my grandmother was glaswegian) not sure how old you are op but try find / buy a soda stream. Big in the 80s but made a come back a few yrs back. You put water in a glass with any flavouring you like and push the button to get instant fizzy juice......(it's catching) I mean pop. You can do any flavour you like then most of the time then now and then have a full fat iron bru for a treat. If your concerned about chemicals.
  • Jruzer
    Jruzer Posts: 3,501 Member
    I don't drink any of that diet stuff.
    Here in Australia we call fizzy drinks by their actual names: coke, sprite, fanta, solo etc etc
    What do y'all do when you ask for a drink at a restaurant or wherever? You can't say " give me a glass of pop or soda", right?

    Curious. How do you inquire about that general kind of beverage?

    Say for example you're going to stop in at a convenience store and are getting a drink, and you ask your travelling companion if they would like one. How do you ask? You certainly wouldn't say "Would you like a coke? No? How about a sprite? No? How about a fanta?"

    To answer your question, if I know what I want I'll order the specific product. If I don't know what the establishment has, I'll first check the menu or ask the server.
  • SteampunkSongbird
    SteampunkSongbird Posts: 826 Member
    I literally drink almost nothing but Coke Zero, hasn't killed me yet!
  • skullshank
    skullshank Posts: 4,323 Member
    Annie3623 wrote: »
    If you don't mind drinking chemicals then it's fine for you, anything that can be used to as a household cleaning product in my eyes, is never a good move.

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    I eat a 'clean' diet so none of the commercial fizzy juices for me. I do on occasion when I'm really craving it, have some flavored stevia drops in club soda/seltzer. They make flavors like grape, cola, root beer, vanilla cream... so it tastes like a soda but with less potential for harm.

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  • HeySwoleSister
    HeySwoleSister Posts: 1,938 Member
    Tubbs216 wrote: »
    Emilia777 wrote: »
    For the record OP, I just love Irn Bru! It’s so hard to get the original recipe here in Canada!
    I'm old enough to remember the old Irn Bru ads... Made in Scotland from girders...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4PxuFQCDis

    OMG, I haven't seen that in years, I loved that ad!
  • HeySwoleSister
    HeySwoleSister Posts: 1,938 Member
    elphie754 wrote: »
    I eat a 'clean' diet so none of the commercial fizzy juices for me. I do on occasion when I'm really craving it, have some flavored stevia drops in club soda/seltzer. They make flavors like grape, cola, root beer, vanilla cream... so it tastes like a soda but with less potential for harm.

    Yeah.... No. Those "drops" like have the SAME artificial sweetnERs and "chemicals" as diet soda. Most do. So basically, you are a self admitting hypocrite.

    Also- please show evidence of those so called harm...

    LOL, thank you. Flavored stevia drops? Might as well order a fountain diet Coke, where their artificially sweetened "drops" are automatically mixed with plain seltzer for your drinking pleasure.

    I actually prefer the plain old fizzy water from my Sodastream, but that's not because I'm a Goddess of Health, it's because I don't like drinking sweet drinks, they just make me more thirsty.
  • sheldonz42
    sheldonz42 Posts: 233 Member
    Annie3623 wrote: »
    If you don't mind drinking chemicals then it's fine for you, anything that can be used to as a household cleaning product in my eyes, is never a good move.

    Ever heard of "steam cleaning?" That would be water used as a household cleaning product. And, as others have said, everything you drink is a chemical because the only thing that isn't a chemical is nothing...
  • kyta32
    kyta32 Posts: 670 Member
    edited February 2015
    There are many different artificial sweeteners, and they interact in the body in different ways.

    Aspartame (in many diet beverages) is considered safe by the FDA, although there has been studies that indicate a cancer risk in rats, and the consumption of "diet" beverages increases the risk of Type 2 diabetes and being overweight and obese. Aspertame may also be counterindicated for people who are sensitive to it, have problems processing phenylalanine, or those with migraines, or diseases like depression or fibromyalgia.

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2013/01/30/ajcn.112.050997.full.pdf+html
    Consumption of 568 ml of diet soda/wk (1 20 oz drink - McDonalds Medium, Burger King Small) increased risk of getting type 2 diabetes by 15% over 14 years.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18535548
    Increase in BMI associated with consumption of diet beverages

    Acesulfame K (diet sodas) is indicated in rat studies to affect prenatal development and neurological function (with long-term use).

    Sucralose (in some diet sweeteners like MIO and quest bars) can impact gut flora, potentially causing glucose intolerance (prediabetes), or interactions with medications
    http://www.nature.com/news/sugar-substitutes-linked-to-obesity-1.15938
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18800291

    Sugar alcohols and Stevia are not artificial sweeteners, but are used in some low-calorie beverages.

    There are a variety of sugar alcohols (Mannitol, Erythritol [quest bars], Xylitol [gum]), each with a different calorie value (2.6 cal/gram - 0.2 cal/gram), and some are more irritating than others (some people get bloating and gastric distress with as little as 1 serving).

    Stevia can lower blood pressure, blood glucose, and insulin levels. Anyone taking medications to manage blood pressure or blood sugar may want to talk to a Dr. about their Stevia intake.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2900484/
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2125.2000.00260.x/abstract
  • Showcase_Brodown
    Showcase_Brodown Posts: 919 Member
    kyta32 wrote: »
    There are many different artificial sweeteners, and they interact in the body in different ways.

    Aspartame (in many diet beverages) is considered safe by the FDA, although there has been studies that indicate a cancer risk in rats, and the consumption of "diet" beverages increases the risk of Type 2 diabetes and being overweight and obese. Aspertame may also be counterindicated for people who are sensitive to it, have problems processing phenylalanine, or those with migraines, or diseases like depression or fibromyalgia.

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2013/01/30/ajcn.112.050997.full.pdf+html
    Consumption of 568 ml of diet soda/wk (1 20 oz drink - McDonalds Medium, Burger King Small) increased risk of getting type 2 diabetes by 15% over 14 years.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18535548
    Increase in BMI associated with consumption of diet beverages

    Acesulfame K (diet sodas) is indicated in rat studies to affect prenatal development and neurological function (with long-term use).

    Sucralose (in some diet sweeteners like MIO and quest bars) can impact gut flora, potentially causing glucose intolerance (prediabetes), or interactions with medications
    http://www.nature.com/news/sugar-substitutes-linked-to-obesity-1.15938
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18800291

    Sugar alcohols and Stevia are not artificial sweeteners, but are used in some low-calorie beverages.

    There are a variety of sugar alcohols (Mannitol, Erythritol [quest bars], Xylitol [gum]), each with a different calorie value (2.6 cal/gram - 0.2 cal/gram), and some are more irritating than others (some people get bloating and gastric distress with as little as 1 serving).

    Stevia can lower blood pressure, blood glucose, and insulin levels. Anyone taking medications to manage blood pressure or blood sugar may want to talk to a Dr. about their Stevia intake.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2900484/
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2125.2000.00260.x/abstract

    You have to be careful how much weight you put on studies like the first two you linked. They are observational (not a controlled trial) and find correlations, not causation.

    And you have to be careful about putting much weight on rat studies.

    I think it could be said that the diet fizzy drinks are fine, assuming no special health circumstances or obscene amounts of consumption.
  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
    kyta32 wrote: »
    There are many different artificial sweeteners, and they interact in the body in different ways.

    Aspartame (in many diet beverages) is considered safe by the FDA, although there has been studies that indicate a cancer risk in rats, and the consumption of "diet" beverages increases the risk of Type 2 diabetes and being overweight and obese. Aspertame may also be counterindicated for people who are sensitive to it, have problems processing phenylalanine, or those with migraines, or diseases like depression or fibromyalgia.

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2013/01/30/ajcn.112.050997.full.pdf+html
    Consumption of 568 ml of diet soda/wk (1 20 oz drink - McDonalds Medium, Burger King Small) increased risk of getting type 2 diabetes by 15% over 14 years.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18535548
    Increase in BMI associated with consumption of diet beverages

    Acesulfame K (diet sodas) is indicated in rat studies to affect prenatal development and neurological function (with long-term use).

    Sucralose (in some diet sweeteners like MIO and quest bars) can impact gut flora, potentially causing glucose intolerance (prediabetes), or interactions with medications
    http://www.nature.com/news/sugar-substitutes-linked-to-obesity-1.15938
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18800291

    Sugar alcohols and Stevia are not artificial sweeteners, but are used in some low-calorie beverages.

    There are a variety of sugar alcohols (Mannitol, Erythritol [quest bars], Xylitol [gum]), each with a different calorie value (2.6 cal/gram - 0.2 cal/gram), and some are more irritating than others (some people get bloating and gastric distress with as little as 1 serving).

    Stevia can lower blood pressure, blood glucose, and insulin levels. Anyone taking medications to manage blood pressure or blood sugar may want to talk to a Dr. about their Stevia intake.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2900484/
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2125.2000.00260.x/abstract

    Oh wow. Not only is aspartame dangerous but stevia can lowers bp and other "magical" claims? All in one post? It's like all the evil/benefit threads wrapped up with one big bow!
  • natboosh69
    natboosh69 Posts: 277 Member
    I drink nothing but diet coke and it doesn't hinder weight loss :) It's not particularly healthy but I still lose weight.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    Jruzer wrote: »
    I don't drink any of that diet stuff.
    Here in Australia we call fizzy drinks by their actual names: coke, sprite, fanta, solo etc etc
    What do y'all do when you ask for a drink at a restaurant or wherever? You can't say " give me a glass of pop or soda", right?

    Curious. How do you inquire about that general kind of beverage?

    Say for example you're going to stop in at a convenience store and are getting a drink, and you ask your travelling companion if they would like one. How do you ask? You certainly wouldn't say "Would you like a coke? No? How about a sprite? No? How about a fanta?"

    To answer your question, if I know what I want I'll order the specific product. If I don't know what the establishment has, I'll first check the menu or ask the server.

    I just ask "do you want a drink" or "what do you want"
    Saying " get me a pop", could mean a hundred different brands.
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