Clean Eating Challenge- March
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beejelblor wrote: »It is amazing that we are on a website designed to get healthy, and there are forums to help one another with this but all that the forum discussion ever seem to lead to are jabs at one another. Every person approaches their nutrition and fitness in their own way, simply move along if this is not the way for you rather then trying to discourage me or others. If anyone is actually interested feel free to join my group, I am not setting rules or pushing judgement on anyone.
Yup, I've found that too. It seems like a lot of people on here think that they have the answer, and that their plan is somehow the best. A lot of it is based on their own personal results and it won't work for everyone. Clean eating to me is just eating foods that are minimally processed, so as close to the way they are found in nature as you can get. Other people may have other definitions, so be it, but the rude responses need to stop. @beejelblor Thanks for this comment, I've been meaning to write something to this extent for a while.0 -
galgenstrick wrote: »beejelblor wrote: »It is amazing that we are on a website designed to get healthy, and there are forums to help one another with this but all that the forum discussion ever seem to lead to are jabs at one another. Every person approaches their nutrition and fitness in their own way, simply move along if this is not the way for you rather then trying to discourage me or others. If anyone is actually interested feel free to join my group, I am not setting rules or pushing judgement on anyone.
Yup, I've found that too. It seems like a lot of people on here think that they have the answer, and that their plan is somehow the best. A lot of it is based on their own personal results and it won't work for everyone. Clean eating to me is just eating foods that are minimally processed, so as close to the way they are found in nature as you can get. Other people may have other definitions, so be it, but the rude responses need to stop. @beejelblor Thanks for this comment, I've been meaning to write something to this extent for a while.
Really? I tend to see a lot of the "meanines" are the ones actually using statistical and scientific data, rather than just personal results.0 -
Galgenstrick- I totally agree. My understanding of clean eating is the same as yours. I try to stick closely to it the best I can but I'm only human and do slip from time to time. LOL
I've only been at this for about a year and there is a learning curve.
I did Whole30 this time last year and had success with that and then moved onto clean eating but figured that I could eat some sugar here and there and then it just spiraled out of control. So, I pulled up my big girl panties and got back into the swing of things with just clean eating. Although I did do a second round of Whole30 with a friend of mine in between because she really wanted to do it.
Thankfully I look at Whole30 as a cleanse and detox as it's so strict. I find clean eating a whole lot easier to do than even Paleo. But I still try to stay away from bread, pasta, dairy, sugar. That being said, I do have real maple syrup and organic half and half in my daily cup of coffee.
Switching to all organic is quite painful on the checkbook but I find it so worth it!0 -
RGv2- That does tend to happen a lot too. LOL
Science/statistics are great but we all know that not everyone will have the same results. Information is great as long as it's information for people to be able to use and not thought of as gospel truth. LOL0 -
StephannieL wrote: »RGv2- That does tend to happen a lot too. LOL
Science/statistics are great but we all know that not everyone will have the same results. Information is great as long as it's information for people to be able to use and not thought of as gospel truth. LOL
If science and statistics can't be used as a reliable guide to what is truthful, what do you recommend using?0 -
galgenstrick wrote: »beejelblor wrote: »It is amazing that we are on a website designed to get healthy, and there are forums to help one another with this but all that the forum discussion ever seem to lead to are jabs at one another. Every person approaches their nutrition and fitness in their own way, simply move along if this is not the way for you rather then trying to discourage me or others. If anyone is actually interested feel free to join my group, I am not setting rules or pushing judgement on anyone.
Yup, I've found that too. It seems like a lot of people on here think that they have the answer, and that their plan is somehow the best. A lot of it is based on their own personal results and it won't work for everyone. Clean eating to me is just eating foods that are minimally processed, so as close to the way they are found in nature as you can get. Other people may have other definitions, so be it, but the rude responses need to stop. @beejelblor Thanks for this comment, I've been meaning to write something to this extent for a while.
Really? I tend to see a lot of the "meanines" are the ones actually using statistical and scientific data, rather than just personal results.
I see that too.0 -
galgenstrick wrote: »beejelblor wrote: »It is amazing that we are on a website designed to get healthy, and there are forums to help one another with this but all that the forum discussion ever seem to lead to are jabs at one another. Every person approaches their nutrition and fitness in their own way, simply move along if this is not the way for you rather then trying to discourage me or others. If anyone is actually interested feel free to join my group, I am not setting rules or pushing judgement on anyone.
Yup, I've found that too. It seems like a lot of people on here think that they have the answer, and that their plan is somehow the best. A lot of it is based on their own personal results and it won't work for everyone. Clean eating to me is just eating foods that are minimally processed, so as close to the way they are found in nature as you can get. Other people may have other definitions, so be it, but the rude responses need to stop. @beejelblor Thanks for this comment, I've been meaning to write something to this extent for a while.
And yet, here you are publishing your challenge and trying to create some sort of consensus of eating around your own dietary rules. You will never see me recommend a challenge about eating one way or another because really, I'm not setting up rules about the proper way to eat. Vegan, paleo, what not, there are people on my friend list that eat a variety of ways and I am not interested in having a group with rules about specific eating styles. However, when someone comes along and attempts to justify their method as the "healthiest" or "better" then, yes, it's an invitation to discuss the science behind nutrition. And I'm not seeing "rude responses" in this thread. But clearly the above post will get that ball rolling.
Eat what you like and how you like it, but there is no way I'm not eating cheese and ice cream in the next month. Cheers.0 -
EvgeniZyntx wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »beejelblor wrote: »It is amazing that we are on a website designed to get healthy, and there are forums to help one another with this but all that the forum discussion ever seem to lead to are jabs at one another. Every person approaches their nutrition and fitness in their own way, simply move along if this is not the way for you rather then trying to discourage me or others. If anyone is actually interested feel free to join my group, I am not setting rules or pushing judgement on anyone.
Yup, I've found that too. It seems like a lot of people on here think that they have the answer, and that their plan is somehow the best. A lot of it is based on their own personal results and it won't work for everyone. Clean eating to me is just eating foods that are minimally processed, so as close to the way they are found in nature as you can get. Other people may have other definitions, so be it, but the rude responses need to stop. @beejelblor Thanks for this comment, I've been meaning to write something to this extent for a while.
And yet, here you are publishing your challenge and trying to create some sort of consensus of eating around your own dietary rules. You will never see me recommend a challenge about eating one way or another because really, I'm not setting up rules about the proper way to eat. Vegan, paleo, what not, there are people on my friend list that eat a variety of ways and I am not interested in having a group with rules about specific eating styles. However, when someone comes along and attempts to justify their method as the "healthiest" or "better" then, yes, it's an invitation to discuss the science behind nutrition. And I'm not seeing "rude responses" in this thread. But clearly the above post will get that ball rolling.
Eat what you like and how you like it, but there is no way I'm not eating cheese and ice cream in the next month. Cheers.
The point in my post was that people were taunting OP for posting the challenge rather than offering any helpful insight. I'm sure plenty of people have their own dietary rules for "clean eating" who would want to follow OPs challenge in their own way. I don't see any harm in it. If it gets people motivated to change their lifestyle that's not working for them, then that's great.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »StephannieL wrote: »RGv2- That does tend to happen a lot too. LOL
Science/statistics are great but we all know that not everyone will have the same results. Information is great as long as it's information for people to be able to use and not thought of as gospel truth. LOL
If science and statistics can't be used as a reliable guide to what is truthful, what do you recommend using?
Sorry, that came out wrong. Some people, in my opinion, when they are posting science and statistics, present it in a way that can be very......for lack of better terminology, holier than thou. I read the science behind Whole30 and as much as I respect what the authors are doing, I didn't completely agree with some things that they wrote about. That being said, it didn't mean that I didn't try everything that they recommended. Not everything worked for me and I'm okay with that.
Just like some people swear by NutriSystem or Weight Watchers, it doesn't work for everybody despite the science behind it.
I'm not trying to get into a pi$$ing contest with anyone. Just voicing my opinion like everyone else and trying to be supportive of the people who want it.
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I answered my own question ...0
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beejelblor wrote: »I am SUPER excited for March to begin and to start putting all my prep and research into action! Some friends and I are going clean, we are gong to have a VERY strict month of March to get our bodies and minds ready for a new Clean Eating lifestyle that we hope to be able to maintain after March. I would LOVE to have company in this month for support, accountability, and shared knowledge.
I started a group called "March 2015 Clean Eating Challenge". Feel free to join if you are interested.
March 1-31st I plan to eat 100% clean. General summary is:
No processed foods
No refined sugars
Only whole grain
Only whole foods
5 meals a day rather then 3
Sooo pretty much:
Nothing with a label, listing ingredients
No alcohol
No white processed carbs
No unnatural sugar added
This will take a lot planning, discipline and willpower but is nice because you do not need to be hungry or neglect yourself, if you want something sweet, eat something sweet as long as it is clean. If anyone would like to join me the support and encouragement would be wonderful. We can share recipe ideas as well as how we are feeling.
so basically nothing except water, tears, and some steamed vegetables....
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beejelblor wrote: »racheljonel wrote: »what whole grains do you eat that aren't processed? Serious question.
The whole grain part is what I am researching now, still learning. I personally will probably stick to quinoa, oatmeal, sweet potato, and am looking into how "clean" brown and black rice are. I am seeing that buckwheat, barley, and wild rice are ok also but am not sure on any of these details yet.
ahh yess, let the verbal clean gymnastics begin ...0 -
galgenstrick wrote: »beejelblor wrote: »It is amazing that we are on a website designed to get healthy, and there are forums to help one another with this but all that the forum discussion ever seem to lead to are jabs at one another. Every person approaches their nutrition and fitness in their own way, simply move along if this is not the way for you rather then trying to discourage me or others. If anyone is actually interested feel free to join my group, I am not setting rules or pushing judgement on anyone.
Yup, I've found that too. It seems like a lot of people on here think that they have the answer, and that their plan is somehow the best. A lot of it is based on their own personal results and it won't work for everyone. Clean eating to me is just eating foods that are minimally processed, so as close to the way they are found in nature as you can get. Other people may have other definitions, so be it, but the rude responses need to stop. @beejelblor Thanks for this comment, I've been meaning to write something to this extent for a while.
my answer = clean eating is totally unnecessary for weight loss and health goals..
hit your calorie/macro/micro targets and enjoy the foods you like and you will be fine..
no need to come up with which variation of rice is "cleaner" and, hence, acceptable....0 -
galgenstrick wrote: »beejelblor wrote: »It is amazing that we are on a website designed to get healthy, and there are forums to help one another with this but all that the forum discussion ever seem to lead to are jabs at one another. Every person approaches their nutrition and fitness in their own way, simply move along if this is not the way for you rather then trying to discourage me or others. If anyone is actually interested feel free to join my group, I am not setting rules or pushing judgement on anyone.
Yup, I've found that too. It seems like a lot of people on here think that they have the answer, and that their plan is somehow the best. A lot of it is based on their own personal results and it won't work for everyone. Clean eating to me is just eating foods that are minimally processed, so as close to the way they are found in nature as you can get. Other people may have other definitions, so be it, but the rude responses need to stop. @beejelblor Thanks for this comment, I've been meaning to write something to this extent for a while.
my answer = clean eating is totally unnecessary for weight loss and health goals..
hit your calorie/macro/micro targets and enjoy the foods you like and you will be fine..
no need to come up with which variation of rice is "cleaner" and, hence, acceptable....
So you're saying it's fine to throw in 10 shots of vodka every day as long as it fits your macros micros and calories and it's fine for your health?0 -
galgenstrick wrote: »
So you're saying it's fine to throw in 10 shots of vodka every day as long as it fits your macros micros and calories and it's fine for your health?
You really don't see a difference between questioning the total elimination of entire groups of food based on vague standards of "cleanness" and heavy consumption of alcohol?
I feel like common sense is just being tossed out the window. We know, from decades of research, that heavy consumption of alcohol can have negative health impacts. But many of the foods targeted by those promoting "clean eating" don't have similarly established dangers, especially when consumed moderately.
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galgenstrick wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »beejelblor wrote: »It is amazing that we are on a website designed to get healthy, and there are forums to help one another with this but all that the forum discussion ever seem to lead to are jabs at one another. Every person approaches their nutrition and fitness in their own way, simply move along if this is not the way for you rather then trying to discourage me or others. If anyone is actually interested feel free to join my group, I am not setting rules or pushing judgement on anyone.
Yup, I've found that too. It seems like a lot of people on here think that they have the answer, and that their plan is somehow the best. A lot of it is based on their own personal results and it won't work for everyone. Clean eating to me is just eating foods that are minimally processed, so as close to the way they are found in nature as you can get. Other people may have other definitions, so be it, but the rude responses need to stop. @beejelblor Thanks for this comment, I've been meaning to write something to this extent for a while.
my answer = clean eating is totally unnecessary for weight loss and health goals..
hit your calorie/macro/micro targets and enjoy the foods you like and you will be fine..
no need to come up with which variation of rice is "cleaner" and, hence, acceptable....
So you're saying it's fine to throw in 10 shots of vodka every day as long as it fits your macros micros and calories and it's fine for your health?
ding, ding, ding, ding...all aboard, here comes the strawman train that is never late...
I don't even know how you could come up with such an absurd notion from my post...
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StephannieL wrote: »
Thankfully I look at Whole30 as a cleanse and detox as it's so strict. I find clean eating a whole lot easier to do than even Paleo. But I still try to stay away from bread, pasta, dairy, sugar. That being said, I do have real maple syrup and organic half and half in my daily cup of coffee.
Switching to all organic is quite painful on the checkbook but I find it so worth it!
I was wondering how long it would take before someone threw in the two delightful buzzwords, "cleanse" and "detox". Only took to the second page.
What, pray tell, are you cleansing and detoxing?
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SconnieCat wrote: »StephannieL wrote: »
Thankfully I look at Whole30 as a cleanse and detox as it's so strict. I find clean eating a whole lot easier to do than even Paleo. But I still try to stay away from bread, pasta, dairy, sugar. That being said, I do have real maple syrup and organic half and half in my daily cup of coffee.
Switching to all organic is quite painful on the checkbook but I find it so worth it!
I was wondering how long it would take before someone threw in the two delightful buzzwords, "cleanse" and "detox". Only took to the second page.
What, pray tell, are you cleansing and detoxing?
hmmm
clean eating
detoxing
MFP is mean
toxins
Paleo
BINGO!!0 -
beejelblor wrote: »I am SUPER excited for March to begin and to start putting all my prep and research into action! Some friends and I are going clean, we are gong to have a VERY strict month of March to get our bodies and minds ready for a new Clean Eating lifestyle that we hope to be able to maintain after March. I would LOVE to have company in this month for support, accountability, and shared knowledge.
I started a group called "March 2015 Clean Eating Challenge". Feel free to join if you are interested.
March 1-31st I plan to eat 100% clean. General summary is:
No processed foods
No refined sugars
Only whole grain
Only whole foods
5 meals a day rather then 3
Sooo pretty much:
Nothing with a label, listing ingredients
No alcohol
No white processed carbs
No unnatural sugar added
This will take a lot planning, discipline and willpower but is nice because you do not need to be hungry or neglect yourself, if you want something sweet, eat something sweet as long as it is clean. If anyone would like to join me the support and encouragement would be wonderful. We can share recipe ideas as well as how we are feeling.
so basically nothing except water, tears, and some steamed vegetables....
how are you defining processed?
Mostly I would be consuming tears from not being able to indulge in things like bacon, wine, and chocolate.
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SconnieCat wrote: »beejelblor wrote: »I am SUPER excited for March to begin and to start putting all my prep and research into action! Some friends and I are going clean, we are gong to have a VERY strict month of March to get our bodies and minds ready for a new Clean Eating lifestyle that we hope to be able to maintain after March. I would LOVE to have company in this month for support, accountability, and shared knowledge.
I started a group called "March 2015 Clean Eating Challenge". Feel free to join if you are interested.
March 1-31st I plan to eat 100% clean. General summary is:
No processed foods
No refined sugars
Only whole grain
Only whole foods
5 meals a day rather then 3
Sooo pretty much:
Nothing with a label, listing ingredients
No alcohol
No white processed carbs
No unnatural sugar added
This will take a lot planning, discipline and willpower but is nice because you do not need to be hungry or neglect yourself, if you want something sweet, eat something sweet as long as it is clean. If anyone would like to join me the support and encouragement would be wonderful. We can share recipe ideas as well as how we are feeling.
so basically nothing except water, tears, and some steamed vegetables....
how are you defining processed?
Mostly I would be consuming tears from not being able to indulge in things like bacon, wine, and chocolate.
we will get a long fine...0 -
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Hmmm, so basically I can only eat hand picked vegetables and water for this challenge...that would be tough. Still trying to determine why I have to eat 5 times instead of three. That's a new one.0
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I enjoy all things in moderation, so it's a no for me but good luck in your pursuit OP
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janejellyroll wrote: »StephannieL wrote: »RGv2- That does tend to happen a lot too. LOL
Science/statistics are great but we all know that not everyone will have the same results. Information is great as long as it's information for people to be able to use and not thought of as gospel truth. LOL
If science and statistics can't be used as a reliable guide to what is truthful, what do you recommend using?
Honestly, I'd interpret that as more acknowledging that science has it's limits, as in 'there are things we haven't studied yet, and things that have been neglected in our studies to date.' One great example: the vast majority of studies are done on men only, including those on what diets are best for 'the human body.'
Considering that the few studies done on women have shown that women actually can have significantly different physiological reactions to things that we have all been assuming 'must' be the same for both sexes (like carbs and protein, for example), what does that say about the accuracy of our science for what is a healthy diet?
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beejelblor wrote: »I started a group called "March 2015 Clean Eating Challenge". Feel free to join if you are interested.
March 1-31st I plan to eat 100% clean. General summary is:
No processed foods
No refined sugars
Only whole grain
Only whole foods
5 meals a day rather then 3
Sooo pretty much:
Nothing with a label, listing ingredients
No alcohol
No white processed carbs
No unnatural sugar added
If anyone would like to join me the support and encouragement would be wonderful. We can share recipe ideas as well as how we are feeling.
Do you have a link for the group? I was having a hard time finding it. I have to eat this way pretty much all the time for medical reasons, anyway. I would be nice to have some company and share recipes and such. :-)
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beejelblor - Don't get disheartened with what seems to me negative responses. Clean eating is unique for everyone to how their body responds to certain foods. I applaud you for having the realization that thought should be had into what we eat regardless of the decision made.
Some people like myself just need a set of rules to follow to see how their body feels so they can then make decisions on what they feel is "clean". I have found the whole30 and will treat it as a little challenge and learning experience which I think is fun and health way to look at these type of things in life.
StephannieL - 10 days into the whole30 and I am feeling great.0 -
beejelblor wrote: »The whole grain part is what I am researching now, still learning. I personally will probably stick to quinoa, oatmeal, sweet potato, and am looking into how "clean" brown and black rice are. I am seeing that buckwheat, barley, and wild rice are ok also but am not sure on any of these details yet.
See the 'meal' part of that word I bolded there? Processed.beejelblor wrote: »Lifts4IceCream wrote: »beejelblor wrote: »Sooo pretty much:
Nothing with a label, listing ingredientsbeejelblor wrote: »I personally will probably stick to quinoa, oatmeal, sweet potato, and am looking into how "clean" brown and black rice are. I am seeing that buckwheat, barley, and wild rice are ok also but am not sure on any of these details yet.
So does that mean that you are only going to buy these grains from a "wholesale bin" so it doesn't come in a package with a label? Unless you grow your own grains, the stuff you buy at the store will have a label listing the ingredients, won't it?....
That is the plan, I don't have a farm so I will do the best I can.
And the bit about getting stuff from wholesale bins so it doesn't have a label. Just...You know it's EXACTLY THE SAME STUFF, right??0
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