How to gain calories without gaining carbs
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Lrdoflamancha wrote: »Do not listen to the na-sayers.... low carb works to reduce your caloric intake....but in order to get enough calories you have to change your mind set. Fat is not evil... 1 ounce of walnuts are 200 calories. Check out the Low Carb Forum in MFP groups... Lots of great info there.
Not always. You can still gain weight on a low carb diet if you eat too much.
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JimFsfitnesspal wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »Here I go again, just must add some more on this. If this is a diet that you are experimenting with, be careful. I am saying this, being 47 and have been on a roller coaster of diets throughout my life. As of now I am at my heaviest aside from my two pregnancies, 160 at 5.5 and I put this on in a few months of couch potato living, feeling sorry for myself and eating constantly with out tracking it at all. And when I look back the diets I had tried (which led to disordered eating practices, was Anorexic off and on and it did a number on my mind and body) I always failed and never felt good when I was on them. But, again if a doctor is telling you this is the way you need to go, I can't argue, for I don't know. Please be careful. Finally getting that, and although it may take time to do it right, the lifestyle is so much more gratifying for me than the roller coaster. Forgive me if I have over stepped my bounds. You are young and have your whole life ahead of you to get this right. Hugs 2 You and the best of blessings your way!
First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100. I'm not experimenting this is from a nutritionist. Thanks for the concern but if anything you should not be discussing how it's unsafe but reply based on what the discussion is actually about. Thank you. So please nobody tell me how to diet I just simply wanted a little but of advice. Thank you to those that are directly replying on the discussion about the advice I asked for.
Umm ... the part in bold isn't true. You admit you picked a number out of a hat. You can lose with or without carbs ... caloric deficit is what matters.
Nutritionist is a title with no real definition or certification requirement.
Truth.
Stop attempting to pick fights in the forums. OP is listening to advice that is 100% unnecessary for weight loss. The only legitimate diet one needs to embark on is eating food one enjoys within their caloric needs. No carb restrictions are required.JimFsfitnesspal wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »Here I go again, just must add some more on this. If this is a diet that you are experimenting with, be careful. I am saying this, being 47 and have been on a roller coaster of diets throughout my life. As of now I am at my heaviest aside from my two pregnancies, 160 at 5.5 and I put this on in a few months of couch potato living, feeling sorry for myself and eating constantly with out tracking it at all. And when I look back the diets I had tried (which led to disordered eating practices, was Anorexic off and on and it did a number on my mind and body) I always failed and never felt good when I was on them. But, again if a doctor is telling you this is the way you need to go, I can't argue, for I don't know. Please be careful. Finally getting that, and although it may take time to do it right, the lifestyle is so much more gratifying for me than the roller coaster. Forgive me if I have over stepped my bounds. You are young and have your whole life ahead of you to get this right. Hugs 2 You and the best of blessings your way!
First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100. I'm not experimenting this is from a nutritionist. Thanks for the concern but if anything you should not be discussing how it's unsafe but reply based on what the discussion is actually about. Thank you. So please nobody tell me how to diet I just simply wanted a little but of advice. Thank you to those that are directly replying on the discussion about the advice I asked for.
Umm ... the part in bold isn't true. You admit you picked a number out of a hat. You can lose with or without carbs ... caloric deficit is what matters.
Nutritionist is a title with no real definition or certification requirement.
Picking on people again?
She is on a legitimate diet.
Leave her alone.
That is simply untrue.
What is untrue, that the only requirement for weight loss is calories in < calories out?
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lemonlionheart wrote: »Chief_Rocka wrote: »1 dozen eggs = 840 cals, 0 carbs.
You're welcome.
I would eat the hell out of that omelette
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PrizePopple wrote: »First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100. I'm not experimenting this is from a nutritionist. Thanks for the concern but if anything you should not be discussing how it's unsafe but reply based on what the discussion is actually about. Thank you. So please nobody tell me how to diet I just simply wanted a little but of advice. Thank you to those that are directly replying on the discussion about the advice I asked for.Sixty was literally a number I pulled out of the air between 50-100 (to lose weight) I allow wiggle room I just do not prefer to go over sixty unless it's a just have to situation. I'll take in consideration the eggs I could easily cook it up myself regardless of parents.
I should only eat more carbs if I'm athletic or even moderately active but I'm hardly lightly active so I should less carbs to lose wait. People only say to stack up on carbs when your run or your athletic so you don't lose to much water weight and focus more on muscle building
I just ... wut? No. This makes no sense. If you're not diabetic or have PCOS (insulin resistance) and are being told by a medical professional to limit your carbs it's not necessary. I've also lost 30 pounds just fine eating plenty of carbs (and I *do* have PCOS).
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brianpperkins wrote: »Here I go again, just must add some more on this. If this is a diet that you are experimenting with, be careful. I am saying this, being 47 and have been on a roller coaster of diets throughout my life. As of now I am at my heaviest aside from my two pregnancies, 160 at 5.5 and I put this on in a few months of couch potato living, feeling sorry for myself and eating constantly with out tracking it at all. And when I look back the diets I had tried (which led to disordered eating practices, was Anorexic off and on and it did a number on my mind and body) I always failed and never felt good when I was on them. But, again if a doctor is telling you this is the way you need to go, I can't argue, for I don't know. Please be careful. Finally getting that, and although it may take time to do it right, the lifestyle is so much more gratifying for me than the roller coaster. Forgive me if I have over stepped my bounds. You are young and have your whole life ahead of you to get this right. Hugs 2 You and the best of blessings your way!
First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100. I'm not experimenting this is from a nutritionist. Thanks for the concern but if anything you should not be discussing how it's unsafe but reply based on what the discussion is actually about. Thank you. So please nobody tell me how to diet I just simply wanted a little but of advice. Thank you to those that are directly replying on the discussion about the advice I asked for.
Umm ... the part in bold isn't true. You admit you picked a number out of a hat. You can lose with or without carbs ... caloric deficit is what matters.
Nutritionist is a title with no real definition or certification requirement.
Truth.
Stop attempting to pick fights in the forums. OP is listening to advice that is 100% unnecessary for weight loss. The only legitimate diet one needs to embark on is eating food one enjoys within their caloric needs. No carb restrictions are required.JimFsfitnesspal wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »Here I go again, just must add some more on this. If this is a diet that you are experimenting with, be careful. I am saying this, being 47 and have been on a roller coaster of diets throughout my life. As of now I am at my heaviest aside from my two pregnancies, 160 at 5.5 and I put this on in a few months of couch potato living, feeling sorry for myself and eating constantly with out tracking it at all. And when I look back the diets I had tried (which led to disordered eating practices, was Anorexic off and on and it did a number on my mind and body) I always failed and never felt good when I was on them. But, again if a doctor is telling you this is the way you need to go, I can't argue, for I don't know. Please be careful. Finally getting that, and although it may take time to do it right, the lifestyle is so much more gratifying for me than the roller coaster. Forgive me if I have over stepped my bounds. You are young and have your whole life ahead of you to get this right. Hugs 2 You and the best of blessings your way!
First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100. I'm not experimenting this is from a nutritionist. Thanks for the concern but if anything you should not be discussing how it's unsafe but reply based on what the discussion is actually about. Thank you. So please nobody tell me how to diet I just simply wanted a little but of advice. Thank you to those that are directly replying on the discussion about the advice I asked for.
Umm ... the part in bold isn't true. You admit you picked a number out of a hat. You can lose with or without carbs ... caloric deficit is what matters.
Nutritionist is a title with no real definition or certification requirement.
Picking on people again?
She is on a legitimate diet.
Leave her alone.
Lol I thought he was making a sarcastic joke. Just goes to show how we all read things differently. ..
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Lrdoflamancha wrote: »Do not listen to the na-sayers.... low carb works to reduce your caloric intake....but in order to get enough calories you have to change your mind set. Fat is not evil... 1 ounce of walnuts are 200 calories. Check out the Low Carb Forum in MFP groups... Lots of great info there.
And it's 100% unnecessary unless she is required to do this for medical reasons. If she is unable to meet her caloric needs by eating so low carb, then better to eat more carbs and eat a healthy amount of calories.
Because you know what else works wonders for reducing your caloric intake? Just.... eating less of all foods.
Exactly, that and moving more.
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JimFsfitnesspal wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100. I'm not experimenting this is from a nutritionist. Thanks for the concern but if anything you should not be discussing how it's unsafe but reply based on what the discussion is actually about. Thank you. So please nobody tell me how to diet I just simply wanted a little but of advice. Thank you to those that are directly replying on the discussion about the advice I asked for.Sixty was literally a number I pulled out of the air between 50-100 (to lose weight) I allow wiggle room I just do not prefer to go over sixty unless it's a just have to situation. I'll take in consideration the eggs I could easily cook it up myself regardless of parents.
I should only eat more carbs if I'm athletic or even moderately active but I'm hardly lightly active so I should less carbs to lose wait. People only say to stack up on carbs when your run or your athletic so you don't lose to much water weight and focus more on muscle building
I just ... wut? No. This makes no sense. If you're not diabetic or have PCOS (insulin resistance) and are being told by a medical professional to limit your carbs it's not necessary. I've also lost 30 pounds just fine eating plenty of carbs (and I *do* have PCOS).
So the entire world should follow your same exact program??
Well people shouldn't run around spewing blatant lies about macros. If she wants to low carb, whatever, but to say she picked a number out of the air because she's not active is not even logical.0 -
Here I go again, just must add some more on this. If this is a diet that you are experimenting with, be careful. I am saying this, being 47 and have been on a roller coaster of diets throughout my life. As of now I am at my heaviest aside from my two pregnancies, 160 at 5.5 and I put this on in a few months of couch potato living, feeling sorry for myself and eating constantly with out tracking it at all. And when I look back the diets I had tried (which led to disordered eating practices, was Anorexic off and on and it did a number on my mind and body) I always failed and never felt good when I was on them. But, again if a doctor is telling you this is the way you need to go, I can't argue, for I don't know. Please be careful. Finally getting that, and although it may take time to do it right, the lifestyle is so much more gratifying for me than the roller coaster. Forgive me if I have over stepped my bounds. You are young and have your whole life ahead of you to get this right. Hugs 2 You and the best of blessings your way!
First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100. I'm not experimenting this is from a nutritionist. Thanks for the concern but if anything you should not be discussing how it's unsafe but reply based on what the discussion is actually about. Thank you. So please nobody tell me how to diet I just simply wanted a little but of advice. Thank you to those that are directly replying on the discussion about the advice I asked for.
Well, your nutritionist is wrong. Amount of carbs has nothing to do with fat loss.
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I think you have gotten an answer to what you can eat for 1000 or more calories with few carbs. I once did a fat fast as part of Atkins, where I just ate lots of coconut oil, cream cheese and boiled eggs. I'm 39, I've done crazy.
I've also done low carb and lost while I stuck with it, but my body feels good with a variety of macronutrients and I couldn't commit to it for life.
I am very concerned that a "nutritionist" told you the ONLY way to lose weight is to severely limit carbs. I've lost 18 pounds in my first 58 days here, and I haven't limited my carbs at all. If this is how you enjoy eating, and it makes you feel great and is easy for you to stick to for life, than by all means do it. But if you're doing it because you believe you won't lose weight eating brown rice, fruit, and dark chocolate than you've been misinformed.0 -
PrizePopple wrote: »JimFsfitnesspal wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100. I'm not experimenting this is from a nutritionist. Thanks for the concern but if anything you should not be discussing how it's unsafe but reply based on what the discussion is actually about. Thank you. So please nobody tell me how to diet I just simply wanted a little but of advice. Thank you to those that are directly replying on the discussion about the advice I asked for.Sixty was literally a number I pulled out of the air between 50-100 (to lose weight) I allow wiggle room I just do not prefer to go over sixty unless it's a just have to situation. I'll take in consideration the eggs I could easily cook it up myself regardless of parents.
I should only eat more carbs if I'm athletic or even moderately active but I'm hardly lightly active so I should less carbs to lose wait. People only say to stack up on carbs when your run or your athletic so you don't lose to much water weight and focus more on muscle building
I just ... wut? No. This makes no sense. If you're not diabetic or have PCOS (insulin resistance) and are being told by a medical professional to limit your carbs it's not necessary. I've also lost 30 pounds just fine eating plenty of carbs (and I *do* have PCOS).
So the entire world should follow your same exact program??
Well people shouldn't run around spewing blatant lies about macros. If she wants to low carb, whatever, but to say she picked a number out of the air because she's not active is not even logical.
Sorry I need to go to sleep. I'm not sure I understand why you all can't leave her alone to her legitimate diet that you all do not seem to understand. Try to do a little research instead of repeating your "bro science".0 -
I think you have gotten an answer to what you can eat for 1000 or more calories with few carbs. I once did a fat fast as part of Atkins, where I just ate lots of coconut oil, cream cheese and boiled eggs. I'm 39, I've done crazy.
I've also done low carb and lost while I stuck with it, but my body feels good with a variety of macronutrients and I couldn't commit to it for life.
I am very concerned that a "nutritionist" told you the ONLY way to lose weight is to severely limit carbs. I've lost 18 pounds in my first 58 days here, and I haven't limited my carbs at all. If this is how you enjoy eating, and it makes you feel great and is easy for you to stick to for life, than by all means do it. But if you're doing it because you believe you won't lose weight eating brown rice, fruit, and dark chocolate than you've been misinformed.
This!
Also ew to the bold lol. I love all three but.. to make that my entire diet? noooo0 -
Here I go again, just must add some more on this. If this is a diet that you are experimenting with, be careful. I am saying this, being 47 and have been on a roller coaster of diets throughout my life. As of now I am at my heaviest aside from my two pregnancies, 160 at 5.5 and I put this on in a few months of couch potato living, feeling sorry for myself and eating constantly with out tracking it at all. And when I look back the diets I had tried (which led to disordered eating practices, was Anorexic off and on and it did a number on my mind and body) I always failed and never felt good when I was on them. But, again if a doctor is telling you this is the way you need to go, I can't argue, for I don't know. Please be careful. Finally getting that, and although it may take time to do it right, the lifestyle is so much more gratifying for me than the roller coaster. Forgive me if I have over stepped my bounds. You are young and have your whole life ahead of you to get this right. Hugs 2 You and the best of blessings your way!
First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100. I'm not experimenting this is from a nutritionist. Thanks for the concern but if anything you should not be discussing how it's unsafe but reply based on what the discussion is actually about. Thank you. So please nobody tell me how to diet I just simply wanted a little but of advice. Thank you to those that are directly replying on the discussion about the advice I asked for.
Well, your nutritionist is wrong. Amount of carbs has nothing to do with fat loss.
So true! I know plenty of people who jumped on low carb fad bandwagon and put ON weight simply because they ate too much, while still having minimal carbs.
Also some folks think because they're limiting their carbs to low levels, they can eat as much as they want and not put on weight :huh:
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JimFsfitnesspal wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100. I'm not experimenting this is from a nutritionist. Thanks for the concern but if anything you should not be discussing how it's unsafe but reply based on what the discussion is actually about. Thank you. So please nobody tell me how to diet I just simply wanted a little but of advice. Thank you to those that are directly replying on the discussion about the advice I asked for.Sixty was literally a number I pulled out of the air between 50-100 (to lose weight) I allow wiggle room I just do not prefer to go over sixty unless it's a just have to situation. I'll take in consideration the eggs I could easily cook it up myself regardless of parents.
I should only eat more carbs if I'm athletic or even moderately active but I'm hardly lightly active so I should less carbs to lose wait. People only say to stack up on carbs when your run or your athletic so you don't lose to much water weight and focus more on muscle building
I just ... wut? No. This makes no sense. If you're not diabetic or have PCOS (insulin resistance) and are being told by a medical professional to limit your carbs it's not necessary. I've also lost 30 pounds just fine eating plenty of carbs (and I *do* have PCOS).
So the entire world should follow your same exact program??
Considering her program is "I'm eating reasonably, below my maintenance needs because I want to lose weight right now, and eating things I love," yes.0 -
JimFsfitnesspal wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »JimFsfitnesspal wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100. I'm not experimenting this is from a nutritionist. Thanks for the concern but if anything you should not be discussing how it's unsafe but reply based on what the discussion is actually about. Thank you. So please nobody tell me how to diet I just simply wanted a little but of advice. Thank you to those that are directly replying on the discussion about the advice I asked for.Sixty was literally a number I pulled out of the air between 50-100 (to lose weight) I allow wiggle room I just do not prefer to go over sixty unless it's a just have to situation. I'll take in consideration the eggs I could easily cook it up myself regardless of parents.
I should only eat more carbs if I'm athletic or even moderately active but I'm hardly lightly active so I should less carbs to lose wait. People only say to stack up on carbs when your run or your athletic so you don't lose to much water weight and focus more on muscle building
I just ... wut? No. This makes no sense. If you're not diabetic or have PCOS (insulin resistance) and are being told by a medical professional to limit your carbs it's not necessary. I've also lost 30 pounds just fine eating plenty of carbs (and I *do* have PCOS).
So the entire world should follow your same exact program??
Well people shouldn't run around spewing blatant lies about macros. If she wants to low carb, whatever, but to say she picked a number out of the air because she's not active is not even logical.
Sorry I need to go to sleep. I'm not sure I understand why you all can't leave her alone to her legitimate diet that you all do not seem to understand. Try to do a little research instead of repeating your "bro science".
Weight loss is calories in versus calories out. Low carb is an option, but, not mandatory to lose weight. Considering the outright lies the OP's "nutritionist" told her, the legitimacy of her diet is questionable at best.
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We do understand it. We understand that the diet is 100% unnecessary and is causing OP to fail reaching her total caloric goals. This indicates that it is not the right path for her.JimFsfitnesspal wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »JimFsfitnesspal wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100. I'm not experimenting this is from a nutritionist. Thanks for the concern but if anything you should not be discussing how it's unsafe but reply based on what the discussion is actually about. Thank you. So please nobody tell me how to diet I just simply wanted a little but of advice. Thank you to those that are directly replying on the discussion about the advice I asked for.Sixty was literally a number I pulled out of the air between 50-100 (to lose weight) I allow wiggle room I just do not prefer to go over sixty unless it's a just have to situation. I'll take in consideration the eggs I could easily cook it up myself regardless of parents.
I should only eat more carbs if I'm athletic or even moderately active but I'm hardly lightly active so I should less carbs to lose wait. People only say to stack up on carbs when your run or your athletic so you don't lose to much water weight and focus more on muscle building
I just ... wut? No. This makes no sense. If you're not diabetic or have PCOS (insulin resistance) and are being told by a medical professional to limit your carbs it's not necessary. I've also lost 30 pounds just fine eating plenty of carbs (and I *do* have PCOS).
So the entire world should follow your same exact program??
Well people shouldn't run around spewing blatant lies about macros. If she wants to low carb, whatever, but to say she picked a number out of the air because she's not active is not even logical.
Sorry I need to go to sleep. I'm not sure I understand why you all can't leave her alone to her legitimate diet that you all do not seem to understand. Try to do a little research instead of repeating your "bro science".
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JimFsfitnesspal wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »JimFsfitnesspal wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100. I'm not experimenting this is from a nutritionist. Thanks for the concern but if anything you should not be discussing how it's unsafe but reply based on what the discussion is actually about. Thank you. So please nobody tell me how to diet I just simply wanted a little but of advice. Thank you to those that are directly replying on the discussion about the advice I asked for.Sixty was literally a number I pulled out of the air between 50-100 (to lose weight) I allow wiggle room I just do not prefer to go over sixty unless it's a just have to situation. I'll take in consideration the eggs I could easily cook it up myself regardless of parents.
I should only eat more carbs if I'm athletic or even moderately active but I'm hardly lightly active so I should less carbs to lose wait. People only say to stack up on carbs when your run or your athletic so you don't lose to much water weight and focus more on muscle building
I just ... wut? No. This makes no sense. If you're not diabetic or have PCOS (insulin resistance) and are being told by a medical professional to limit your carbs it's not necessary. I've also lost 30 pounds just fine eating plenty of carbs (and I *do* have PCOS).
So the entire world should follow your same exact program??
Well people shouldn't run around spewing blatant lies about macros. If she wants to low carb, whatever, but to say she picked a number out of the air because she's not active is not even logical.
Sorry I need to go to sleep. I'm not sure I understand why you all can't leave her alone to her legitimate diet that you all do not seem to understand. Try to do a little research instead of repeating your "bro science".
I didn't say "bro science" myself, but her frame of mind about carbs is dead wrong. She doesn't need to eat less of them because of activity level. The person who told her that should find a new job.0 -
christinev297 wrote: »Here I go again, just must add some more on this. If this is a diet that you are experimenting with, be careful. I am saying this, being 47 and have been on a roller coaster of diets throughout my life. As of now I am at my heaviest aside from my two pregnancies, 160 at 5.5 and I put this on in a few months of couch potato living, feeling sorry for myself and eating constantly with out tracking it at all. And when I look back the diets I had tried (which led to disordered eating practices, was Anorexic off and on and it did a number on my mind and body) I always failed and never felt good when I was on them. But, again if a doctor is telling you this is the way you need to go, I can't argue, for I don't know. Please be careful. Finally getting that, and although it may take time to do it right, the lifestyle is so much more gratifying for me than the roller coaster. Forgive me if I have over stepped my bounds. You are young and have your whole life ahead of you to get this right. Hugs 2 You and the best of blessings your way!
First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100. I'm not experimenting this is from a nutritionist. Thanks for the concern but if anything you should not be discussing how it's unsafe but reply based on what the discussion is actually about. Thank you. So please nobody tell me how to diet I just simply wanted a little but of advice. Thank you to those that are directly replying on the discussion about the advice I asked for.
Well, your nutritionist is wrong. Amount of carbs has nothing to do with fat loss.
So true! I know plenty of people who jumped on low carb fad bandwagon and put ON weight simply because they ate too much, while still having minimal carbs.
Also some folks think because they're limiting their carbs to low levels, they can eat as much as they want and not put on weight :huh:
same thinking that people adopt on ANY kid of restrictive diet IME: eating clean, Paleo, veggie/vegan, low-carb, low-fat, you name it. "I'm eating x so Ic an eat whatever I want!" is something I often see on blog posts advocating such restrictive diets.0 -
JimFsfitnesspal wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »JimFsfitnesspal wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100. I'm not experimenting this is from a nutritionist. Thanks for the concern but if anything you should not be discussing how it's unsafe but reply based on what the discussion is actually about. Thank you. So please nobody tell me how to diet I just simply wanted a little but of advice. Thank you to those that are directly replying on the discussion about the advice I asked for.Sixty was literally a number I pulled out of the air between 50-100 (to lose weight) I allow wiggle room I just do not prefer to go over sixty unless it's a just have to situation. I'll take in consideration the eggs I could easily cook it up myself regardless of parents.
I should only eat more carbs if I'm athletic or even moderately active but I'm hardly lightly active so I should less carbs to lose wait. People only say to stack up on carbs when your run or your athletic so you don't lose to much water weight and focus more on muscle building
I just ... wut? No. This makes no sense. If you're not diabetic or have PCOS (insulin resistance) and are being told by a medical professional to limit your carbs it's not necessary. I've also lost 30 pounds just fine eating plenty of carbs (and I *do* have PCOS).
So the entire world should follow your same exact program??
Well people shouldn't run around spewing blatant lies about macros. If she wants to low carb, whatever, but to say she picked a number out of the air because she's not active is not even logical.
Sorry I need to go to sleep. I'm not sure I understand why you all can't leave her alone to her legitimate diet that you all do not seem to understand. Try to do a little research instead of repeating your "bro science".
Because it is Bro science. Telling someone that the only way they're going to lose weight is to limit their carbs is just wrong. I went the same way as the OP and ended up in her situation. Not eating enough, then eventually falling completely off the wagon. My nutritionist and doctor have both helped me get back up. They both said to focus on calories in vs calories out.
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Lrdoflamancha wrote: »Do not listen to the na-sayers.... low carb works to reduce your caloric intake....but in order to get enough calories you have to change your mind set. Fat is not evil... 1 ounce of walnuts are 200 calories. Check out the Low Carb Forum in MFP groups... Lots of great info there.
Not always. You can still gain weight on a low carb diet if you eat too much.
What you state is factually correct but is in actuality incorrect. Fats and protein satiate hunger, much better, for a much longer period of time. If I am not hungry I eat less.
CICO is still king... But low carb kills my desire to eat.
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And Jim, the OP did say this ...
"First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100"
If *ANYONE* ... so she's implying this is the only way to lose, they have to restrict carbs, which is obviously not true as evidenced by people on here who have lost weight without such restriction of carbs. Myself being one of those people.0 -
Lrdoflamancha wrote: »Lrdoflamancha wrote: »Do not listen to the na-sayers.... low carb works to reduce your caloric intake....but in order to get enough calories you have to change your mind set. Fat is not evil... 1 ounce of walnuts are 200 calories. Check out the Low Carb Forum in MFP groups... Lots of great info there.
Not always. You can still gain weight on a low carb diet if you eat too much.
What you state is factually correct but is in actuality incorrect. Fats and protein satiate hunger, much better, for a much longer period of time. If I am not hungry I eat less.
CICO is still king... But low carb kills my desire to eat.
So because you get satiated to the point of not exceeding your caloric needs, nobody else on the planet would exceed theirs?0 -
Hey, it's the "people only say" diet. That has to be right! I mean, people say it, so it must be true. How did I lose 100 pounds on a diet of mostly carbs? Must have been magic.0
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Lrdoflamancha wrote: »Lrdoflamancha wrote: »Do not listen to the na-sayers.... low carb works to reduce your caloric intake....but in order to get enough calories you have to change your mind set. Fat is not evil... 1 ounce of walnuts are 200 calories. Check out the Low Carb Forum in MFP groups... Lots of great info there.
Not always. You can still gain weight on a low carb diet if you eat too much.
What you state is factually correct but is in actuality incorrect. Fats and protein satiate hunger, much better, for a much longer period of time. If I am not hungry I eat less.
CICO is still king... But low carb kills my desire to eat.
Which does not mean that this is how everyone responds. Or even if they do, if they eat a lot of calorie dense foods they can easily over-eat. i could very easily eat a butt-load of nuts and peanut butter and butter before getting satiated. Fat only satiates me when it's combined with protein.0 -
Almost 45 pounds down eating raw chocolate chip cookie dough and tons of absolute junk, and I'm lazy as can be. So the idea that no one can lose weight without limiting carbs unless they're an athlete is just flat-out wrong.
I can't even. This thread is just so bad. OP, you are misinformed and should see, possibly, a registered dietician (the ones required to have a degree and who are also doctors, that's what they're called here but maybe they're called something else where you are).0 -
JimFsfitnesspal wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »JimFsfitnesspal wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100. I'm not experimenting this is from a nutritionist. Thanks for the concern but if anything you should not be discussing how it's unsafe but reply based on what the discussion is actually about. Thank you. So please nobody tell me how to diet I just simply wanted a little but of advice. Thank you to those that are directly replying on the discussion about the advice I asked for.Sixty was literally a number I pulled out of the air between 50-100 (to lose weight) I allow wiggle room I just do not prefer to go over sixty unless it's a just have to situation. I'll take in consideration the eggs I could easily cook it up myself regardless of parents.
I should only eat more carbs if I'm athletic or even moderately active but I'm hardly lightly active so I should less carbs to lose wait. People only say to stack up on carbs when your run or your athletic so you don't lose to much water weight and focus more on muscle building
I just ... wut? No. This makes no sense. If you're not diabetic or have PCOS (insulin resistance) and are being told by a medical professional to limit your carbs it's not necessary. I've also lost 30 pounds just fine eating plenty of carbs (and I *do* have PCOS).
So the entire world should follow your same exact program??
Well people shouldn't run around spewing blatant lies about macros. If she wants to low carb, whatever, but to say she picked a number out of the air because she's not active is not even logical.
Sorry I need to go to sleep. I'm not sure I understand why you all can't leave her alone to her legitimate diet that you all do not seem to understand. Try to do a little research instead of repeating your "bro science".
LOL. You really need to go back and re-read this thread. Her diet isn't "legit" in the way you seem to think and the person spreading "broscience" is the OP, not the people you are white knighting against.0 -
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Here I go again, just must add some more on this. If this is a diet that you are experimenting with, be careful. I am saying this, being 47 and have been on a roller coaster of diets throughout my life. As of now I am at my heaviest aside from my two pregnancies, 160 at 5.5 and I put this on in a few months of couch potato living, feeling sorry for myself and eating constantly with out tracking it at all. And when I look back the diets I had tried (which led to disordered eating practices, was Anorexic off and on and it did a number on my mind and body) I always failed and never felt good when I was on them. But, again if a doctor is telling you this is the way you need to go, I can't argue, for I don't know. Please be careful. Finally getting that, and although it may take time to do it right, the lifestyle is so much more gratifying for me than the roller coaster. Forgive me if I have over stepped my bounds. You are young and have your whole life ahead of you to get this right. Hugs 2 You and the best of blessings your way!
First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100. I'm not experimenting this is from a nutritionist. Thanks for the concern but if anything you should not be discussing how it's unsafe but reply based on what the discussion is actually about. Thank you. So please nobody tell me how to diet I just simply wanted a little but of advice. Thank you to those that are directly replying on the discussion about the advice I asked for.
OP: if the question was, "I have decided to drive at 70mph in my Prius through Alaska during a blizzard. How much gas will it take?" you would have gotten a similar response.
It is a nonsensical question based on a ridiculous premise. Just like your 60 g carb restriction.0 -
emily_stew wrote: »JimFsfitnesspal wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »JimFsfitnesspal wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »First of all if anyone wants to lose weight it is imperative especially when I'm not much of an exerciser to limit carbs to 50-100. I'm not experimenting this is from a nutritionist. Thanks for the concern but if anything you should not be discussing how it's unsafe but reply based on what the discussion is actually about. Thank you. So please nobody tell me how to diet I just simply wanted a little but of advice. Thank you to those that are directly replying on the discussion about the advice I asked for.Sixty was literally a number I pulled out of the air between 50-100 (to lose weight) I allow wiggle room I just do not prefer to go over sixty unless it's a just have to situation. I'll take in consideration the eggs I could easily cook it up myself regardless of parents.
I should only eat more carbs if I'm athletic or even moderately active but I'm hardly lightly active so I should less carbs to lose wait. People only say to stack up on carbs when your run or your athletic so you don't lose to much water weight and focus more on muscle building
I just ... wut? No. This makes no sense. If you're not diabetic or have PCOS (insulin resistance) and are being told by a medical professional to limit your carbs it's not necessary. I've also lost 30 pounds just fine eating plenty of carbs (and I *do* have PCOS).
So the entire world should follow your same exact program??
Well people shouldn't run around spewing blatant lies about macros. If she wants to low carb, whatever, but to say she picked a number out of the air because she's not active is not even logical.
Sorry I need to go to sleep. I'm not sure I understand why you all can't leave her alone to her legitimate diet that you all do not seem to understand. Try to do a little research instead of repeating your "bro science".
And what if I don't feel it's a legitimate diet? Can I still argue?
No. That's broscience.0 -
Blueseraphchaos wrote: »Almost 45 pounds down eating raw chocolate chip cookie dough and tons of absolute junk, and I'm lazy as can be. So the idea that no one can lose weight without limiting carbs unless they're an athlete is just flat-out wrong.
I can't even. This thread is just so bad. OP, you are misinformed and should see, possibly, a registered dietician (the ones required to have a degree and who are also doctors, that's what they're called here but maybe they're called something else where you are).
So true. The OP said I was saying this way she's speaking of is "unsafe". I did not say that word. I just said be careful because I was experienced with doing this stuff in the past and it was for weightloss. I was young and did not have a clue what I was doing. I was hoping the OP would not be put back by my input. I have to agree with you that a "registered dietician" would be the one to ask for this kind of "advice" whoa, it was kinda a heavy for me, but I took a risk and jumped in. I was only saying from my own personal experience not trying to be preachy. The thread is off putting, but much honest advice has been given. Energy in, energy out, Ultimately has turned out to be the only way to go for me now, from what I have learned through life. I wish her well, but I would take this up with a qualified Doctor as you said.0 -
futuremanda wrote: »Also wondering why 60, and if you could open your diary.
Go cook up some eggs with olive oil and some herbs/spices?
Are you able to prep all your own meals and snacks? (Just asking because you're 18, so don't know if you're with parents or in a rez without a kitchen.)
And if this isn't for a medical issue, I'd say just call this day in. Eat enough calories, so your body gets enough nutrition. Then start planning your meals well ahead of time, so that this doesn't happen in the future. You'll have to incorporate more fat- and protein- dense foods into your meal choices. Cooking 3 meals a day with 1 tbl of oil each would add like 360 cals alone, for example.
Sixty was literally a number I pulled out of the air between 50-100 (to lose weight) I allow wiggle room I just do not prefer to go over sixty unless it's a just have to situation. I'll take in consideration the eggs I could easily cook it up myself regardless of parents.
Hon, I don't mean to hurt your feelings, but barring a medical condition, you don't have to limit your carbs to lose weight.
I've lost 70 pounds now, on a moderate carb intake (around 150g a day), which I had to do because I had insulin resistance.
If you want to eat low carb, that's fine - I just want to make sure you're doing so for the right reasons. Like, it'll help you achieve a deficit, or you binge on simple carbs or something like that.
Weight loss is about eating less than you burn every day (through things like walking, thinking, breathing, working, etc). There are lots of ways to achieve that deficit - and low carb is a legitimate one, if that's what you wind up choosing.
Ultimately, calories are broken down into three macro-nutrients. The breakdown looks like this:
1g carbs = 4 calories
1g protein = 4 calories
1g fat = 9 calories
So that should help you find foods that fit the type of eating you choose.
If, ultimately, you choose low carb, that's your right. But I'd hate to think you're restricting yourself because you think it's the only way to see success.
Good luck.0
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