Bulking - Is my routine ok?

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  • Sam_I_Am77
    Sam_I_Am77 Posts: 2,093 Member
    s_hossein wrote: »

    Pretty sure only eating 900 calories a day is worse than cookies & ice cream.
    Everything in moderation.

    Not remotely true. You are approximately 500 calories per day below your maintenance calories. There's a good chance that you have hurt your metabolism by eating so low if you've done this for an extended period of time, your body needs energy to function (brain, heart, lungs, etc). I would suggest that you start working up to your maintenance calories and stay there for a while to get your metabolism working again. If you take too drastic of an increase you may experience some big time weight gain. You need to correct your nutrition for long-term health. You're only 18 and you have your whole life ahead of you, fix things now as it only gets harder as you get older and have a busier life.

    here are some examples, this is definitely not all encompassing

    Protein sources (1gram = 4 calories)
    - chicken / steak / pork / fish
    - cottage cheese
    - whey protein
    - eggs

    Carbs (1gram = 4 calories)
    - Brown rice / white rice
    - Legumes
    - Sweet Potatoes, Red Potatoes
    - Berries, Bananas, Apples, Raisins, other fruits...
    - Granola
    - Green Vegetables
    - Other Vegetables

    Fat (1 gram = 9 calories)
    - olive oil / coconut oil
    - almonds
    - cheese
    - avocado
    - **fats from the protein sources mentioned above




  • lishie_rebooted
    lishie_rebooted Posts: 2,973 Member
    Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »
    s_hossein wrote: »

    Pretty sure only eating 900 calories a day is worse than cookies & ice cream.
    Everything in moderation.

    Not remotely true. You are approximately 500 calories per day below your maintenance calories. There's a good chance that you have hurt your metabolism by eating so low if you've done this for an extended period of time, your body needs energy to function (brain, heart, lungs, etc). I would suggest that you start working up to your maintenance calories and stay there for a while to get your metabolism working again. If you take too drastic of an increase you may experience some big time weight gain. You need to correct your nutrition for long-term health. You're only 18 and you have your whole life ahead of you, fix things now as it only gets harder as you get older and have a busier life.

    here are some examples, this is definitely not all encompassing

    Protein sources (1gram = 4 calories)
    - chicken / steak / pork / fish
    - cottage cheese
    - whey protein
    - eggs

    Carbs (1gram = 4 calories)
    - Brown rice / white rice
    - Legumes
    - Sweet Potatoes, Red Potatoes
    - Berries, Bananas, Apples, Raisins, other fruits...
    - Granola
    - Green Vegetables
    - Other Vegetables

    Fat (1 gram = 9 calories)
    - olive oil / coconut oil
    - almonds
    - cheese
    - avocado
    - **fats from the protein sources mentioned above




    you keep quoting me and talking to me like I'm the OP.
    and according to fat2fitradio.com, the OP's BMR is 1327 cals.
    1300-900 = 400
    my computer isn't like the IIFYM page so I can't corobberate the BMR number...

    Fat2Fit says at least 1900 cals, I'm sure IIFYM will give a similar number. I've compared the two before for myself and theyre close enough
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    s_hossein wrote: »
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    The only way you are going to look like that, ever, is if you have elite 1% genetics that give you proportions like that. Then add in numerous years of hard work, heavy weights and top-notch diet work. Those girls appear to be close to competition level bodyfat ranges and such to boot, so I doubt they look anything like that normally. Just something to keep in mind.

    For now, start with at least 50%-75% more calories and some sort of beginning lifter's program and go from there. That will get you started. That routine you have posted is next to useless for your goals.
    Any recommendations?

    The best ones have already been given.

    5/3/1
    Starting Strength
    StrongLifts
    Ice Cream Fitness 5 x 5 (name?)

    Pick one.

    Yeap.
  • Sam_I_Am77
    Sam_I_Am77 Posts: 2,093 Member
    edited February 2015
    lishie_rebooted wrote: »
    Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »
    s_hossein wrote: »

    Pretty sure only eating 900 calories a day is worse than cookies & ice cream.
    Everything in moderation.

    Not remotely true. You are approximately 500 calories per day below your maintenance calories. There's a good chance that you have hurt your metabolism by eating so low if you've done this for an extended period of time, your body needs energy to function (brain, heart, lungs, etc). I would suggest that you start working up to your maintenance calories and stay there for a while to get your metabolism working again. If you take too drastic of an increase you may experience some big time weight gain. You need to correct your nutrition for long-term health. You're only 18 and you have your whole life ahead of you, fix things now as it only gets harder as you get older and have a busier life.

    here are some examples, this is definitely not all encompassing

    Protein sources (1gram = 4 calories)
    - chicken / steak / pork / fish
    - cottage cheese
    - whey protein
    - eggs

    Carbs (1gram = 4 calories)
    - Brown rice / white rice
    - Legumes
    - Sweet Potatoes, Red Potatoes
    - Berries, Bananas, Apples, Raisins, other fruits...
    - Granola
    - Green Vegetables
    - Other Vegetables

    Fat (1 gram = 9 calories)
    - olive oil / coconut oil
    - almonds
    - cheese
    - avocado
    - **fats from the protein sources mentioned above




    you keep quoting me and talking to me like I'm the OP.
    and according to fat2fitradio.com, the OP's BMR is 1327 cals.
    1300-900 = 400
    my computer isn't like the IIFYM page so I can't corobberate the BMR number...

    Fat2Fit says at least 1900 cals, I'm sure IIFYM will give a similar number. I've compared the two before for myself and theyre close enough

    My bad, a couple of the quotes got messed up from what it looks like. We're both calculating about the same (1400 vs. 1300) and this isn't an exact science. I have no idea what fat2fitradio.com is but I like the Mifflin St. Jeor method because it's been proven to be an accurate calculation for caloric needs. Not saying there's anything wrong with what you use, I just prefer something that has documentation to support its use. Assuming that the OP has an accurate BF% assessment, IIFYM should be close to MSJ.
  • lishie_rebooted
    lishie_rebooted Posts: 2,973 Member
    Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »
    lishie_rebooted wrote: »
    Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »
    s_hossein wrote: »

    Pretty sure only eating 900 calories a day is worse than cookies & ice cream.
    Everything in moderation.

    Not remotely true. You are approximately 500 calories per day below your maintenance calories. There's a good chance that you have hurt your metabolism by eating so low if you've done this for an extended period of time, your body needs energy to function (brain, heart, lungs, etc). I would suggest that you start working up to your maintenance calories and stay there for a while to get your metabolism working again. If you take too drastic of an increase you may experience some big time weight gain. You need to correct your nutrition for long-term health. You're only 18 and you have your whole life ahead of you, fix things now as it only gets harder as you get older and have a busier life.

    here are some examples, this is definitely not all encompassing

    Protein sources (1gram = 4 calories)
    - chicken / steak / pork / fish
    - cottage cheese
    - whey protein
    - eggs

    Carbs (1gram = 4 calories)
    - Brown rice / white rice
    - Legumes
    - Sweet Potatoes, Red Potatoes
    - Berries, Bananas, Apples, Raisins, other fruits...
    - Granola
    - Green Vegetables
    - Other Vegetables

    Fat (1 gram = 9 calories)
    - olive oil / coconut oil
    - almonds
    - cheese
    - avocado
    - **fats from the protein sources mentioned above




    you keep quoting me and talking to me like I'm the OP.
    and according to fat2fitradio.com, the OP's BMR is 1327 cals.
    1300-900 = 400
    my computer isn't like the IIFYM page so I can't corobberate the BMR number...

    Fat2Fit says at least 1900 cals, I'm sure IIFYM will give a similar number. I've compared the two before for myself and theyre close enough

    My bad, a couple of the quotes got messed up from what it looks like. We're both calculating about the same (1400 vs. 1300) and this isn't an exact science. I have no idea what fat2fitradio.com is but I like the Mifflin St. Jeor method because it's been proven to be an accurate calculation for caloric needs. Not saying there's anything wrong with what you use, I just prefer something that has documentation to support its use. Assuming that the OP has an accurate BF% assessment, IIFYM should be close to MSJ.

    They use the formulas on that site.
  • s_hossein
    s_hossein Posts: 143 Member
    lishie_rebooted wrote: »
    Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »
    s_hossein wrote: »

    Pretty sure only eating 900 calories a day is worse than cookies & ice cream.
    Everything in moderation.

    Not remotely true. You are approximately 500 calories per day below your maintenance calories. There's a good chance that you have hurt your metabolism by eating so low if you've done this for an extended period of time, your body needs energy to function (brain, heart, lungs, etc). I would suggest that you start working up to your maintenance calories and stay there for a while to get your metabolism working again. If you take too drastic of an increase you may experience some big time weight gain. You need to correct your nutrition for long-term health. You're only 18 and you have your whole life ahead of you, fix things now as it only gets harder as you get older and have a busier life.

    here are some examples, this is definitely not all encompassing

    Protein sources (1gram = 4 calories)
    - chicken / steak / pork / fish
    - cottage cheese
    - whey protein
    - eggs

    Carbs (1gram = 4 calories)
    - Brown rice / white rice
    - Legumes
    - Sweet Potatoes, Red Potatoes
    - Berries, Bananas, Apples, Raisins, other fruits...
    - Granola
    - Green Vegetables
    - Other Vegetables

    Fat (1 gram = 9 calories)
    - olive oil / coconut oil
    - almonds
    - cheese
    - avocado
    - **fats from the protein sources mentioned above




    you keep quoting me and talking to me like I'm the OP.
    and according to fat2fitradio.com, the OP's BMR is 1327 cals.
    1300-900 = 400
    my computer isn't like the IIFYM page so I can't corobberate the BMR number...

    Fat2Fit says at least 1900 cals, I'm sure IIFYM will give a similar number. I've compared the two before for myself and theyre close enough
    lishie_rebooted wrote: »
    Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »
    lishie_rebooted wrote: »
    Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »
    s_hossein wrote: »

    Pretty sure only eating 900 calories a day is worse than cookies & ice cream.
    Everything in moderation.

    Not remotely true. You are approximately 500 calories per day below your maintenance calories. There's a good chance that you have hurt your metabolism by eating so low if you've done this for an extended period of time, your body needs energy to function (brain, heart, lungs, etc). I would suggest that you start working up to your maintenance calories and stay there for a while to get your metabolism working again. If you take too drastic of an increase you may experience some big time weight gain. You need to correct your nutrition for long-term health. You're only 18 and you have your whole life ahead of you, fix things now as it only gets harder as you get older and have a busier life.

    here are some examples, this is definitely not all encompassing

    Protein sources (1gram = 4 calories)
    - chicken / steak / pork / fish
    - cottage cheese
    - whey protein
    - eggs

    Carbs (1gram = 4 calories)
    - Brown rice / white rice
    - Legumes
    - Sweet Potatoes, Red Potatoes
    - Berries, Bananas, Apples, Raisins, other fruits...
    - Granola
    - Green Vegetables
    - Other Vegetables

    Fat (1 gram = 9 calories)
    - olive oil / coconut oil
    - almonds
    - cheese
    - avocado
    - **fats from the protein sources mentioned above




    you keep quoting me and talking to me like I'm the OP.
    and according to fat2fitradio.com, the OP's BMR is 1327 cals.
    1300-900 = 400
    my computer isn't like the IIFYM page so I can't corobberate the BMR number...

    Fat2Fit says at least 1900 cals, I'm sure IIFYM will give a similar number. I've compared the two before for myself and theyre close enough

    My bad, a couple of the quotes got messed up from what it looks like. We're both calculating about the same (1400 vs. 1300) and this isn't an exact science. I have no idea what fat2fitradio.com is but I like the Mifflin St. Jeor method because it's been proven to be an accurate calculation for caloric needs. Not saying there's anything wrong with what you use, I just prefer something that has documentation to support its use. Assuming that the OP has an accurate BF% assessment, IIFYM should be close to MSJ.

    They use the formulas on that site.


    1,900 is manageable. My calorie goal on here is 2,500?


  • Sam_I_Am77
    Sam_I_Am77 Posts: 2,093 Member
    s_hossein wrote: »
    lishie_rebooted wrote: »
    Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »
    s_hossein wrote: »

    Pretty sure only eating 900 calories a day is worse than cookies & ice cream.
    Everything in moderation.

    Not remotely true. You are approximately 500 calories per day below your maintenance calories. There's a good chance that you have hurt your metabolism by eating so low if you've done this for an extended period of time, your body needs energy to function (brain, heart, lungs, etc). I would suggest that you start working up to your maintenance calories and stay there for a while to get your metabolism working again. If you take too drastic of an increase you may experience some big time weight gain. You need to correct your nutrition for long-term health. You're only 18 and you have your whole life ahead of you, fix things now as it only gets harder as you get older and have a busier life.

    here are some examples, this is definitely not all encompassing

    Protein sources (1gram = 4 calories)
    - chicken / steak / pork / fish
    - cottage cheese
    - whey protein
    - eggs

    Carbs (1gram = 4 calories)
    - Brown rice / white rice
    - Legumes
    - Sweet Potatoes, Red Potatoes
    - Berries, Bananas, Apples, Raisins, other fruits...
    - Granola
    - Green Vegetables
    - Other Vegetables

    Fat (1 gram = 9 calories)
    - olive oil / coconut oil
    - almonds
    - cheese
    - avocado
    - **fats from the protein sources mentioned above




    you keep quoting me and talking to me like I'm the OP.
    and according to fat2fitradio.com, the OP's BMR is 1327 cals.
    1300-900 = 400
    my computer isn't like the IIFYM page so I can't corobberate the BMR number...

    Fat2Fit says at least 1900 cals, I'm sure IIFYM will give a similar number. I've compared the two before for myself and theyre close enough
    lishie_rebooted wrote: »
    Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »
    lishie_rebooted wrote: »
    Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »
    s_hossein wrote: »

    Pretty sure only eating 900 calories a day is worse than cookies & ice cream.
    Everything in moderation.

    Not remotely true. You are approximately 500 calories per day below your maintenance calories. There's a good chance that you have hurt your metabolism by eating so low if you've done this for an extended period of time, your body needs energy to function (brain, heart, lungs, etc). I would suggest that you start working up to your maintenance calories and stay there for a while to get your metabolism working again. If you take too drastic of an increase you may experience some big time weight gain. You need to correct your nutrition for long-term health. You're only 18 and you have your whole life ahead of you, fix things now as it only gets harder as you get older and have a busier life.

    here are some examples, this is definitely not all encompassing

    Protein sources (1gram = 4 calories)
    - chicken / steak / pork / fish
    - cottage cheese
    - whey protein
    - eggs

    Carbs (1gram = 4 calories)
    - Brown rice / white rice
    - Legumes
    - Sweet Potatoes, Red Potatoes
    - Berries, Bananas, Apples, Raisins, other fruits...
    - Granola
    - Green Vegetables
    - Other Vegetables

    Fat (1 gram = 9 calories)
    - olive oil / coconut oil
    - almonds
    - cheese
    - avocado
    - **fats from the protein sources mentioned above




    you keep quoting me and talking to me like I'm the OP.
    and according to fat2fitradio.com, the OP's BMR is 1327 cals.
    1300-900 = 400
    my computer isn't like the IIFYM page so I can't corobberate the BMR number...

    Fat2Fit says at least 1900 cals, I'm sure IIFYM will give a similar number. I've compared the two before for myself and theyre close enough

    My bad, a couple of the quotes got messed up from what it looks like. We're both calculating about the same (1400 vs. 1300) and this isn't an exact science. I have no idea what fat2fitradio.com is but I like the Mifflin St. Jeor method because it's been proven to be an accurate calculation for caloric needs. Not saying there's anything wrong with what you use, I just prefer something that has documentation to support its use. Assuming that the OP has an accurate BF% assessment, IIFYM should be close to MSJ.

    They use the formulas on that site.


    1,900 is manageable. My calorie goal on here is 2,500?


    I would use the calculation from the IIFYM site long before MFP's calc.

  • lishie_rebooted
    lishie_rebooted Posts: 2,973 Member
    Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »
    s_hossein wrote: »
    lishie_rebooted wrote: »
    Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »
    s_hossein wrote: »

    Pretty sure only eating 900 calories a day is worse than cookies & ice cream.
    Everything in moderation.

    Not remotely true. You are approximately 500 calories per day below your maintenance calories. There's a good chance that you have hurt your metabolism by eating so low if you've done this for an extended period of time, your body needs energy to function (brain, heart, lungs, etc). I would suggest that you start working up to your maintenance calories and stay there for a while to get your metabolism working again. If you take too drastic of an increase you may experience some big time weight gain. You need to correct your nutrition for long-term health. You're only 18 and you have your whole life ahead of you, fix things now as it only gets harder as you get older and have a busier life.

    here are some examples, this is definitely not all encompassing

    Protein sources (1gram = 4 calories)
    - chicken / steak / pork / fish
    - cottage cheese
    - whey protein
    - eggs

    Carbs (1gram = 4 calories)
    - Brown rice / white rice
    - Legumes
    - Sweet Potatoes, Red Potatoes
    - Berries, Bananas, Apples, Raisins, other fruits...
    - Granola
    - Green Vegetables
    - Other Vegetables

    Fat (1 gram = 9 calories)
    - olive oil / coconut oil
    - almonds
    - cheese
    - avocado
    - **fats from the protein sources mentioned above




    you keep quoting me and talking to me like I'm the OP.
    and according to fat2fitradio.com, the OP's BMR is 1327 cals.
    1300-900 = 400
    my computer isn't like the IIFYM page so I can't corobberate the BMR number...

    Fat2Fit says at least 1900 cals, I'm sure IIFYM will give a similar number. I've compared the two before for myself and theyre close enough
    lishie_rebooted wrote: »
    Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »
    lishie_rebooted wrote: »
    Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »
    s_hossein wrote: »

    Pretty sure only eating 900 calories a day is worse than cookies & ice cream.
    Everything in moderation.

    Not remotely true. You are approximately 500 calories per day below your maintenance calories. There's a good chance that you have hurt your metabolism by eating so low if you've done this for an extended period of time, your body needs energy to function (brain, heart, lungs, etc). I would suggest that you start working up to your maintenance calories and stay there for a while to get your metabolism working again. If you take too drastic of an increase you may experience some big time weight gain. You need to correct your nutrition for long-term health. You're only 18 and you have your whole life ahead of you, fix things now as it only gets harder as you get older and have a busier life.

    here are some examples, this is definitely not all encompassing

    Protein sources (1gram = 4 calories)
    - chicken / steak / pork / fish
    - cottage cheese
    - whey protein
    - eggs

    Carbs (1gram = 4 calories)
    - Brown rice / white rice
    - Legumes
    - Sweet Potatoes, Red Potatoes
    - Berries, Bananas, Apples, Raisins, other fruits...
    - Granola
    - Green Vegetables
    - Other Vegetables

    Fat (1 gram = 9 calories)
    - olive oil / coconut oil
    - almonds
    - cheese
    - avocado
    - **fats from the protein sources mentioned above




    you keep quoting me and talking to me like I'm the OP.
    and according to fat2fitradio.com, the OP's BMR is 1327 cals.
    1300-900 = 400
    my computer isn't like the IIFYM page so I can't corobberate the BMR number...

    Fat2Fit says at least 1900 cals, I'm sure IIFYM will give a similar number. I've compared the two before for myself and theyre close enough

    My bad, a couple of the quotes got messed up from what it looks like. We're both calculating about the same (1400 vs. 1300) and this isn't an exact science. I have no idea what fat2fitradio.com is but I like the Mifflin St. Jeor method because it's been proven to be an accurate calculation for caloric needs. Not saying there's anything wrong with what you use, I just prefer something that has documentation to support its use. Assuming that the OP has an accurate BF% assessment, IIFYM should be close to MSJ.

    They use the formulas on that site.


    1,900 is manageable. My calorie goal on here is 2,500?


    I would use the calculation from the IIFYM site long before MFP's calc.

    I concur. I'd start at the 1900 and monitor your weight to see how quickly you're gaining. Stick to it at least 6 weeks since some will be water weight and because you currently have difficulties hitting 1k. Adjust up from there as needed. You want to slowly gain weight while lifting.

    And since you seem very glute focused, get a copy of strong curves.
  • s_hossein
    s_hossein Posts: 143 Member
    Thank you all so much!
    I appreciate it <3
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