Diet soda?
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Personally I consider zero calorie drinks a waste. I would rather have a good 240 cal soda now and then than fill up on something that seems to have no value what so ever. Just an opinion though.
This makes no sense to me. it's not like people are claiming that diet soda is a nutritional powerhouse. It's just something with low/no calories that people like to drink. What "value" does regular soda have?0 -
Going by all the "I'm addicted to soda" OR "I drink 10 cans a day" threads. I have to ask myself what the hell are manufactures adding to these drinks???
Cocaine, some under the table addictive drug??? Lol
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I'll go through 10 drinks a day easy (this is why it's good I mostly drink water), just because I like to be drinking something, so I don't think it has to be anything but good tasting to the person.
I could easily go through 10 or more cups of coffee or tea, even decaf, if I didn't make myself switch to water simply because drinking that much coffee is insane and would mess me up.
(While I don't think the impetus is the caffeine, once you drink lots of something caffeinated it's tough to stop it easily, because you feel tired.)0 -
christinev297 wrote: »Going by all the "I'm addicted to soda" OR "I drink 10 cans a day" threads. I have to ask myself what the hell are manufactures adding to these drinks???
Cocaine, some under the table addictive drug??? Lol
What I've noticed is that sodas with high fructose corn syrup for sweeteners are the ones I can drink several of in a row. Diet soda or sodas sweetened with cane sugar, I'm less likely to drink more than one in a day. The corn syrup ones I have to choose to only drink one because I'll find myself craving a second or third.
Whether that's all in my own head or there's something real to it, I honestly don't know.
Here in the US, a good portion of the sodas are sweetened with high fructose corn syrup. "Real" sugar is more common in other countries (and I find it tastes better, too).
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Have you guys got "coke life"?
They just started advertising it here. Apparently it's sweetened with stevia0 -
christinev297 wrote: »Have you guys got "coke life"?
They just started advertising it here. Apparently it's sweetened with stevia
Not that I've seen, but I'm in the Midwest of the US and new stuff usually hits cities on the east or west coast first
~Lyssa
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christinev297 wrote: »Have you guys got "coke life"?
They just started advertising it here. Apparently it's sweetened with stevia
I tried it and thought it was nasty.
I love diet coke over coke zero. But I will always choose coke zero. I did research and found the sweetner is diet coke to be linked to sulfa drugs and I am allergic. I stopped drinking it and I felt so much better. Breathing was a lot easier without it. I started drinking it again and I am back to feeling the same way. Which is crap. But that is just myself. My opinion only natters to me. Do what you want.0 -
christinev297 wrote: »Going by all the "I'm addicted to soda" OR "I drink 10 cans a day" threads. I have to ask myself what the hell are manufactures adding to these drinks???
Cocaine, some under the table addictive drug??? Lol
Yes actually, caffeine.
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Is water purer? Sure. Is diet soda damn tasty and a bit filling? Hell yes. My doctor thumbs-ups my exams. I figure if drinking diet soda keeps you happy and you're eating healthfully, then screw all the folk saying every can of Coke Zero is a chemical cesspit. People also caterwaul about vaccinations being bad. Consistent weight goals + easy dietary compliance + feeling good + unconcerned doc = if it ain't broke don't fix it.0
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Nothing wrong with the calories or the "chemicals". My problem is that the sweetener primes me to crave sweet things.
I know that lots of people love diet soda. However, I don't have it because I can't control my need for sweets once I've had it. I know it seems strange, but lots of people find that they are more likely to cheat on their diet after consuming diet foods.0 -
I drink it only with my lunch meal. Just one cup a day is not going to kill you.0
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christinev297 wrote: »Have you guys got "coke life"?
They just started advertising it here. Apparently it's sweetened with stevia
It's just come to Australia too. My understanding is that it has less calories than regular coke, 35% less if I remember advert correctly, but still has calories unlike coke zero or diet coke which have next to none.
I guess it is a good compromise for people who want to cut calories or reduce sugar but don't like aspartame flavour or get headaches etc from it.
I personally quite like coke zero and Pepsi max so will stick to the (almost) no calorie version rather than coke lite.
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Who cares what people drink?
Not everyone has same taste buds.
Diet or not, I like both.
I prefer neither though.0 -
Who cares what people drink?
Not everyone has same taste buds.
Diet or not, I like both.
I prefer neither though.
I don't suppose anybody really cares what others drink, or what they eat - but this is a forum about weight control and nutrition so people are going to discuss foods and drinks.
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cdcruizer05 wrote: »How badly does diet soda's affect ones weight while dieting? I usually drink sprite zero or cherry coke zero.
Regular soda doesn't even taste right any more. Should i quit drinking diet soda's all together? What have you done?
It only affects your weight if you are going to have more calories due to it (i.e. causes issues with adherence to you calorie goal).0 -
Looncove_Farm wrote: »It could lead to weight gain, not weight loss
Diet soda is calorie-free, but it won't necessarily help you lose weight. Researchers from the University of Texas found that over the course of about a decade, diet soda drinkers had a 70% greater increase in waist circumference compared with non-drinkers. And get this: participants who slurped down two or more sodas a day experienced a 500% greater increase. The way artificial sweeteners confuse the body may play a part, but another reason might be psychological, says Minnesota-based dietitian Cassie Bjork. When you know you're not consuming any liquid calories, it might be easier to justify that double cheeseburger or extra slice of pizza.
I was a big Diet Coke drinker for years, a couple 2 or 3 a day. When I stopped drinking it the changes AFTER the headaches went away, were impressive. I lost a few pounds and felt so much better. This is just my oppinion and personal experience and everyoens different but Diet sodas with Chemical sweetners are not good for any of us.
Becca
1st Bolded: Not relevant when calorie counting.
2nd bolded: ignoring the fact that any sweetener (and any food for that matter) is a chemical compound, they are not necessarily bad either - and actually can be considered good if they allow people to better adhere to their diet.0 -
paperpudding wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »Have you guys got "coke life"?
They just started advertising it here. Apparently it's sweetened with stevia
It's just come to Australia too. My understanding is that it has less calories than regular coke, 35% less if I remember advert correctly, but still has calories unlike coke zero or diet coke which have next to none.
I guess it is a good compromise for people who want to cut calories or reduce sugar but don't like aspartame flavour or get headaches etc from it.
I personally quite like coke zero and Pepsi max so will stick to the (almost) no calorie version rather than coke lite.
@paperpudding I'm in South Aus
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here is the full study:It is difficult to base any opinion on the little snippet in the paper.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jgs.13376/full
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herrspoons wrote: »Gianfranco_R wrote: »
here is the full study:It is difficult to base any opinion on the little snippet in the paper.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jgs.13376/full
Thanks. So, to get this straight, the data relies on self reporting, and there appears to be no attempt to remove any confounding variables such as what else they were eating.
Let me suggest a counter hypothesis: Fat people drink diet soda more than regular soda.
Yes, definitely, but what is strange is that their weight/waist circumference increased while drinking diet soda. So they kept gaining weight despite drinking DS. This is someway counterintuitive. So maybe, as someone already suggested in this thread, people who drink DS and don't count calories think they are allowed to eat more and/or maybe there is some metabolic effect (increased hunger?).
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I drank diet soda when I was fat and lazy
I drink it now I'm thin and fit
as a fat, lazy person I suppose in the back of my mind it made the amount I was eating not seem as bad, because after all I wasn't adding wasted calories from the soda was I ... I think this is probably a big part of the correlation factor in the studies
as a thin fit person, I like the taste and I don't have to log it - it hasn't helped me get to this state it has about as much relevance as an aardvark does to my weight loss
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herrspoons wrote: »Gianfranco_R wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Gianfranco_R wrote: »
here is the full study:It is difficult to base any opinion on the little snippet in the paper.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jgs.13376/full
Thanks. So, to get this straight, the data relies on self reporting, and there appears to be no attempt to remove any confounding variables such as what else they were eating.
Let me suggest a counter hypothesis: Fat people drink diet soda more than regular soda.
Yes, definitely, but what is strange is that their weight/waist circumference increased while drinking diet soda. So they kept gaining weight despite drinking DS. This is someway counterintuitive. So maybe, as someone already suggested in this thread, people who drink DS and don't count calories think they are allowed to eat more and/or maybe there is some metabolic effect (increased hunger?).
Looking at the baseline figures, the people who preferred DS were already fatter. We could argue that they just continued an existing trend, driven by existing behaviours.
So, yes: I'd agree with the hypothesis that people think they can eat more because of DS. That doesn't make DS the culprit for their weight gain though.
I drank diet soda before I ever gained weight. My waist got bigger, not due to the soda, but due to me eating more. And I never thought, "Oh, I can have the double cheeseburger and fries because I got diet soda!" I just got used to the taste of diet and prefer it.
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Sarasmaintaining wrote: »Looncove_Farm wrote: »You keep doing what you think you need to do and I'll keep doing what I've been doing, since its been working pretty well for me
Thats why it says it "could" , not "will" cause weight gain,and everyones personal experience is different. Unfortunately its the chemicals in it that are more harmful than anything, whether you lose weight, maintain or gain.
I cant have the chemicals, or preservatives, or additives they put into food and drinks so I dont have a choice, avoiding them as best I can makes for a difficult day to say the least.0 -
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I drink diet soda everyday. I just make sure I drink my all of my daily water goal too.0
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This actually makes more sense to me now. I could get a 32 ounce Dr Pepper and a refill for probably 600 calories (by the time you figure in the ice volume) or I could get unsweet tea or a diet drink and suddenly my hamburger splurge 600 calories lower.I would bet money that most of us have been to a fast food restaurant or had a friend or coworker that got Mcdonald's or Burger King and got the meal with a large diet coke. The irony is amazing. As if the diet coke was the solution. Probably because people think sugar is bad, so avoid soda but pay no attention to calories.
Now, obviously, the diet drink isn't going to offset the double/double with cheese and fries, but it knocks more than 25% off the calorie total. That's a win, if it means I can do it more often and stay on track.
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I drink 1-5 cans of diet soda and about 50 packets on Splenda for my coffee/tea per day and no issues with gaining weight or a gut.0
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Over the years I got used to drinking diet coke and just prefer the taste. I can honestly say that, even when I was at my heaviest and ordering a whopper with cheese and a large fries with a diet coke, I did not believe for a minute that drinking the diet coke negated the calories in the food I was eating.
But that's probably just me.0 -
booksandchocolate12 wrote: »Over the years I got used to drinking diet coke and just prefer the taste. I can honestly say that, even when I was at my heaviest and ordering a whopper with cheese and a large fries with a diet coke, I did not believe for a minute that drinking the diet coke negated the calories in the food I was eating.
But that's probably just me.
Well, no, I just said that's me before you. But maybe you and I are outside the norm. I just drank diet soda because diet soda is what I drink. I never gave it a second thought.
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Believe me, a diet coke is far better than the other kind for a diabetic. On principle I prefer to eat my limited calories than drink them so a diet coke is a far better option.0
I was just scrolling to say that.
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